The Official NBA Season Thread: Fries Discourse | Mavs vs Jazz

[nick.]

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Like Luka Doncic is obviously not a PG, he can't guard a single human at the PG position.

he can average 10 million assists, it doesn't matter, if you can't guard that position, it means you gotta get someone who can.

 

[B Sox]

Using that logic Magic Johnson isn't a PG. Size is only used to determine a players position in middle school and rec league ball.

Folks always switch up that criteria for Magic

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Magic at PG is like Duncan at PF.

Back half of Duncan's career he's obviously the center.
We just don't want to mess up the historical "Greatest PF of all time" narrative.

 

[HIM]

Draymond fool y’all. This is like Jordan not being able to win without Pippen, on steroids.

 

[xxpizzo]

lol reminds of 2k this convo right now

PG who can dribble/shoot but cant defend so you have to stick him in the corner to guard the corner boy

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Using that logic Magic Johnson isn't a PG. Size is only used to determine a players position in middle school and rec league ball.

i didn't say anything about size.

I said it's who you can guard.

SGA is 6'6 but he can gaurd the PG and thus is a PG.
Luke is 6'7 but he can't gaurd PG's thus is not a PG.

 

[rolaholic]

 

[nick.]

Like Luka Doncic is obviously not a PG, he can't guard a single human at the PG position.

he can average 10 million assists, it doesn't matter, if you can't guard that position, it means you gotta get someone who can.

Luka can't guard a single human at any position

He's absolutely the point guard, though. Use your eyes.

 

[B Sox]

If Magic was a point guard, there’s absolutely zero argument for Luka/Harden/Bron etc not to be.

Magic couldn’t guard anybody so they did the same thing Dallas does with Luka and have him guard whoever is weak.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Luka can't guard a single human at any position

He's absolutely the point guard, though. Use your eyes.

he isn't, he's the primary ball handler.

just like Lebron was the primary ball handler
or dwayne wade was in his prime
or James Harden was in his prime.

primary ball handler =/= pg.


your primary ball handler can be a SG, SF, PF, even a C theoretically.
the thing that determines the position is primarily who they can guard.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

If Magic was a point guard, there’s absolutely zero argument for Luka/Harden/Bron etc not to be.

Magic couldn’t guard anybody so they did the same thing Dallas does with Luka and have him guard whoever is weak.

i don't know why people think this is a gotcha.
Magic stopped playing PG in the back half of his career, he couldn't guard them anymore.

just like Tim Duncan was defending centers despite being listed at PF.

 

[addict4sneakers]

FUTURE DISSENT

 

[B Sox]

If Luka plays the Celtics and guards Jrue or White instead of The Jays, does that make him a point guard?

 

[finessence]

This is why everyone doesn't need a mic in front of them. Like Bean didn't pack them boys up in 5 in '08 at the old ages of 31, 30 and 25 respectively. Had a lot to say but never won back to back...miss me with the nonsense.

….. swept y’all boys in 99 though

 

[antidope]

Isaiah Thomas is one of those people who have undeservingly been elevated to a mythical status. Lowkey a fraud.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Isaiah Thomas is one of those people who have undeservingly been elevated to a mythical status. Lowkey a fraud.

Whoa whoa whoa this isn’t accurate

 

[antidope]

Tbh I think this is IT trying protect his all time ranking because he knows Steph is better than him.

99% of the time your position is who you gaurd.

Because he isn't as good as advertised. One of the biggest beneficiaries of the gassing of the 80s and 90s

 

[MVP]

….. swept them boys in 99 though

And then proceeded got swept in 01, beat again in 02, 04 and 08.

Was that supposed to be some kind of gotcha moment?

 

[MVP]

Isaiah Thomas is one of those people who have undeservingly been elevated to a mythical status. Lowkey a fraud.

Terrible take.

 

[finessence]

Isaiah Thomas is one of those people who have undeservingly been elevated to a mythical status. Lowkey a fraud.

This man has been held in high regard as a player since his Indiana days and prep days. Y’all just be saying anything

Same way D.Rose’s brothers protected him. Isaiah’s brother did the same as a youth in Chicago. He was a blue chip recruit…. My mom is 55 years old and was an Isaiah Thomas fan during his Pistons days. And we’re from Florida. He’s always been a legend

 

[osh kosh bosh]

If Luka plays the Celtics and guards Jrue or White instead of The Jays, does that make him a point guard?

Again you are just listing exceptions that prove the rule.

You know in any reasonable scenario Luka can't gaurd the PG.

So you have to point to the rare starting 5 in the league that has two elite wings, an elite offensive c and the worst offensive player is PG sized.

Defense is the primary consideration of what position you play.

If it was typical for NBA teams to have slow non threats at the PG position, I'd say okay sure Luka can play PG.

But you know this isn't true.

 

[antidope]

Fraud is a bit much sure. He's not close to as good as Steph

 

[Coupé It]

Draymond runs the offense so well that when Steph gets injured there is no offense

 

[Coupé It]

Position definition debate