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Injury robbed Dirk of some votes that year, too
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Injury robbed Dirk of some votes that year, too
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Scoot > Skinny Gobert
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Yeah that shattered my heart amongst tons of others and I severely disliked that man for 4 years. Always tuned in and watched and can't lie did a fist pump when they beat OKC.
MIKE LOWERY
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MVP was Bron's in 2021 until Solomon Hill gump *** Goldberg'd into his ankle.
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NBA trade deadline: What Shams is hearing about Jakob Poeltl, John Collins, Fred VanVleet and more
Just under one month remains before the Feb. 9 NBA trade deadline, and as team executives ramp up conversations, the marquee names of this year’s marketplace are beginning to emerge. Atlanta’s John Collins and Phoenix’s Jae Crowder are still on the trading block, and discussions surrounding both are expected to continue elevating in the days to come.
However, one organization emerges every deadline as a key hub for the entire NBA. This season, it could be San Antonio. Spurs center Jakob Poeltl has gained significant trade interest from teams such as the Toronto Raptors and Boston Celtics, according to league sources who, like all the other sources in this story, were granted anonymity so that they would be able to speak freely.
Poeltl is believed to have great respect for the Spurs’ organization, head coach Gregg Popovich and his teammates, but his desire to compete on the highest levels is a factor that other organizations feel is important for the pending unrestricted free agent. The Spurs have wanted the 27-year-old Poeltl as part of their long-term future but are balancing the risk of his price tag and potentially losing him for nothing in the summer.
The Spurs have had a standing offer to Poeltl for his maximum extension of four years and $58 million since before the season, but that has been declined, league sources say. San Antonio will be able to offer more to Poeltl in the offseason and is slated to have in excess of $50 million in salary-cap space. Rival executives believe Poeltl will approach the $20 million per year range in a new deal during the offseason. There’s no question the Spurs will hold a high price threshold for any deal involving Poeltl.
In addition to Poeltl, the Spurs have two established veteran wing players in Josh Richardson and Doug McDermott sure to receive interest ahead of the deadline.
Richardson, who will be a free agent in July, has averaged 11.3 points, 3.3 assists and 36.1 percent 3-point shooting this season and is valued as a two-way player. McDermott, under contract through 2024 at $13.75 million per year, is averaging 10.5 points and 42.1 percent shooting from 3-point range this season.
Along with the Spurs, the Charlotte Hornets are an organization that many across the league are keeping an eye on as a potential seller as the trade deadline nears. Guard Terry Rozier, center Mason Plumlee and forwards Jalen McDaniels and Kelly Oubre Jr. are among the players expected to receive interest in potential deals.
The Hornets are expected to listen to suitors for Rozier ahead of the deadline, though he has three years remaining on the four-year, $97 million extension that he signed in 2021.
The Hornets (11-34) are the worst team in the Eastern Conference this season and are behind the Houston Rockets (10-34) for the worst record in the league. Charlotte’s season has been derailed by extended absences to key rotation pieces such as LaMelo Ball, Gordon Hayward, Dennis Smith Jr., Cody Martin and Miles Bridges. They have the fourth-worst defense in the NBA.
For now, San Antonio and Charlotte are viewed as two of the NBA’s assured sellers in the market. The Houston Rockets also have guard Eric Gordon as a trade candidate but have set an asking price of a good young player or first-round pick for Gordon, league sources say.
When talking to team officials across the NBA, the Toronto Raptors are the most fascinating franchise to watch before the deadline. At 20-24 and 11th place in the Eastern Conference, the Raptors have underwhelmed at times and have several talented players — Pascal Siakam, O.G. Anunoby, Fred VanVleet and Gary Trent Jr. — whom teams are monitoring. If the Raptors decide to rebuild and prepare to aim for the draft lottery by moving a couple of their key cornerstones, there will be a long list of suitors.
Without a doubt, the Raptors have the full attention of everyone across the NBA.
More NBA news and notes…
Atlanta Hawks
The Utah Jazz have been the most engaged team recently on a potential Collins trade, league sources say. The Washington Wizards have also been among the teams expressing interest in Collins. The Jazz have two pieces in Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt that could interest the Hawks.
Detroit Pistons
The Raptors, Los Angeles Lakers, New Orleans Pelicans, Milwaukee Bucks, Cleveland Cavaliers and Dallas Mavericks are among the teams registering interest in Detroit’s Bojan Bogdanović, league sources say. The Pistons have maintained that they prefer to keep Bogdanović moving forward, but as The Athletic’s James Edwards III reported, the franchise is open to conversations, and it’s believed an unprotected first-round pick can pry Bogdanović out of Detroit.
LA Clippers
The Clippers are searching for depth in the frontcourt and have discussed guard John Wall in potential deals, league sources say. Behind Ivica Zubac, the Clippers have relied heavily on two-way big man Moses Brown but have also looked into a more accomplished center.
Los Angeles Lakers
Lakers star Anthony Davis is aiming to return to the lineup by early February, within a handful of games before the All-Star break, league sources say. Davis has been sidelined since Dec. 16 due to a stress reaction and bone spur injury in his right foot. Davis had played like an MVP candidate prior to the injury, with season averages of 27.4 points, 12.1 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.1 blocks and a career-high 59.4 percent field goal shooting.
Minnesota Timberwolves
The Timberwolves have a major decision to make with D’Angelo Russell, who is on an expiring $31.3 million contract with no signs of an extension. The team would lose his salary slot if he leaves as a free agent, so Minnesota has been exploring trade possibilities for Russell while prioritizing another point guard, sources said.
San Antonio Spurs
The Hawks are in serious talks to hire Spurs executive and former Cavaliers GM Chris Grant as a senior adviser in Landry Fields’ front office, sources said. Grant, a well-respected exec, spent nine years in the Hawks’ organization (1996-2005) before serving as an assistant GM and GM for the Cavaliers from 2005 to 2014.
Toronto Raptors
The Suns and Magic have emerged as potential free-agent suitors for All-Star guard VanVleet, league sources say. VanVleet — the 2019 NBA champion and one of the league’s greatest undrafted success stories — spoke recently about his pending free-agency status in the offseason and how he remains focused on the Raptors: “I’m completely focused on his team. My loyalty is to this team and to this franchise and trying to get us back to the level that we’re accustomed to around here.”
Utah Jazz
The Timberwolves and Clippers are expressing interest in Jazz guard Mike Conley Jr., league sources say. Conley, a well-respected veteran in Utah and across the league, has averaged 10.3 points, 7.5 assists and 2.3 rebounds this season. The Jazz are 5-7 without Conley this season and 18-17 with him in the lineup.
Just under one month remains before the Feb. 9 NBA trade deadline, and as team executives ramp up conversations, the marquee names of this year’s marketplace are beginning to emerge. Atlanta’s John Collins and Phoenix’s Jae Crowder are still on the trading block, and discussions surrounding both are expected to continue elevating in the days to come.
However, one organization emerges every deadline as a key hub for the entire NBA. This season, it could be San Antonio. Spurs center Jakob Poeltl has gained significant trade interest from teams such as the Toronto Raptors and Boston Celtics, according to league sources who, like all the other sources in this story, were granted anonymity so that they would be able to speak freely.
Poeltl is believed to have great respect for the Spurs’ organization, head coach Gregg Popovich and his teammates, but his desire to compete on the highest levels is a factor that other organizations feel is important for the pending unrestricted free agent. The Spurs have wanted the 27-year-old Poeltl as part of their long-term future but are balancing the risk of his price tag and potentially losing him for nothing in the summer.
The Spurs have had a standing offer to Poeltl for his maximum extension of four years and $58 million since before the season, but that has been declined, league sources say. San Antonio will be able to offer more to Poeltl in the offseason and is slated to have in excess of $50 million in salary-cap space. Rival executives believe Poeltl will approach the $20 million per year range in a new deal during the offseason. There’s no question the Spurs will hold a high price threshold for any deal involving Poeltl.
In addition to Poeltl, the Spurs have two established veteran wing players in Josh Richardson and Doug McDermott sure to receive interest ahead of the deadline.
Richardson, who will be a free agent in July, has averaged 11.3 points, 3.3 assists and 36.1 percent 3-point shooting this season and is valued as a two-way player. McDermott, under contract through 2024 at $13.75 million per year, is averaging 10.5 points and 42.1 percent shooting from 3-point range this season.
Along with the Spurs, the Charlotte Hornets are an organization that many across the league are keeping an eye on as a potential seller as the trade deadline nears. Guard Terry Rozier, center Mason Plumlee and forwards Jalen McDaniels and Kelly Oubre Jr. are among the players expected to receive interest in potential deals.
The Hornets are expected to listen to suitors for Rozier ahead of the deadline, though he has three years remaining on the four-year, $97 million extension that he signed in 2021.
The Hornets (11-34) are the worst team in the Eastern Conference this season and are behind the Houston Rockets (10-34) for the worst record in the league. Charlotte’s season has been derailed by extended absences to key rotation pieces such as LaMelo Ball, Gordon Hayward, Dennis Smith Jr., Cody Martin and Miles Bridges. They have the fourth-worst defense in the NBA.
For now, San Antonio and Charlotte are viewed as two of the NBA’s assured sellers in the market. The Houston Rockets also have guard Eric Gordon as a trade candidate but have set an asking price of a good young player or first-round pick for Gordon, league sources say.
When talking to team officials across the NBA, the Toronto Raptors are the most fascinating franchise to watch before the deadline. At 20-24 and 11th place in the Eastern Conference, the Raptors have underwhelmed at times and have several talented players — Pascal Siakam, O.G. Anunoby, Fred VanVleet and Gary Trent Jr. — whom teams are monitoring. If the Raptors decide to rebuild and prepare to aim for the draft lottery by moving a couple of their key cornerstones, there will be a long list of suitors.
Without a doubt, the Raptors have the full attention of everyone across the NBA.
More NBA news and notes…
Atlanta Hawks
The Utah Jazz have been the most engaged team recently on a potential Collins trade, league sources say. The Washington Wizards have also been among the teams expressing interest in Collins. The Jazz have two pieces in Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt that could interest the Hawks.
Detroit Pistons
The Raptors, Los Angeles Lakers, New Orleans Pelicans, Milwaukee Bucks, Cleveland Cavaliers and Dallas Mavericks are among the teams registering interest in Detroit’s Bojan Bogdanović, league sources say. The Pistons have maintained that they prefer to keep Bogdanović moving forward, but as The Athletic’s James Edwards III reported, the franchise is open to conversations, and it’s believed an unprotected first-round pick can pry Bogdanović out of Detroit.
LA Clippers
The Clippers are searching for depth in the frontcourt and have discussed guard John Wall in potential deals, league sources say. Behind Ivica Zubac, the Clippers have relied heavily on two-way big man Moses Brown but have also looked into a more accomplished center.
Los Angeles Lakers
Lakers star Anthony Davis is aiming to return to the lineup by early February, within a handful of games before the All-Star break, league sources say. Davis has been sidelined since Dec. 16 due to a stress reaction and bone spur injury in his right foot. Davis had played like an MVP candidate prior to the injury, with season averages of 27.4 points, 12.1 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 2.1 blocks and a career-high 59.4 percent field goal shooting.
Minnesota Timberwolves
The Timberwolves have a major decision to make with D’Angelo Russell, who is on an expiring $31.3 million contract with no signs of an extension. The team would lose his salary slot if he leaves as a free agent, so Minnesota has been exploring trade possibilities for Russell while prioritizing another point guard, sources said.
San Antonio Spurs
The Hawks are in serious talks to hire Spurs executive and former Cavaliers GM Chris Grant as a senior adviser in Landry Fields’ front office, sources said. Grant, a well-respected exec, spent nine years in the Hawks’ organization (1996-2005) before serving as an assistant GM and GM for the Cavaliers from 2005 to 2014.
Toronto Raptors
The Suns and Magic have emerged as potential free-agent suitors for All-Star guard VanVleet, league sources say. VanVleet — the 2019 NBA champion and one of the league’s greatest undrafted success stories — spoke recently about his pending free-agency status in the offseason and how he remains focused on the Raptors: “I’m completely focused on his team. My loyalty is to this team and to this franchise and trying to get us back to the level that we’re accustomed to around here.”
Utah Jazz
The Timberwolves and Clippers are expressing interest in Jazz guard Mike Conley Jr., league sources say. Conley, a well-respected veteran in Utah and across the league, has averaged 10.3 points, 7.5 assists and 2.3 rebounds this season. The Jazz are 5-7 without Conley this season and 18-17 with him in the lineup.
HOU$TON
formerly convertibleburt
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If we are going by this recent trend, bron bron should have 6 straight mvps from the 2007/2008 through 2012/2013 seasons.Regarding the MVP award...
Notice the trend?
No need to ask me where my money's going
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Paying $20M to Poetl per season is why bad teams stay bad.
- Jan 20, 2002
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Unfortunately, for bron some of his best yrs coincided with stephs peak and warriors dynasty. He had some of his best yrs during that stretch as well
moe200069
Supporter
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steph for the ‘20-‘21 season: 32/5.5/5.8 while carrying wiggins, “washed” dray, and nico mannion to the 7th seed. 7 players on that squad aint even in the nba now
NICO MANNIONselective memory is nasty work
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steph for the ‘20-‘21 season: 32/5.5/5.8 while carrying wiggins, “washed” dray, and nico mannion to the 7th seed. 7 players on that squad aint even in the nba now
selective memory is nasty work
Wiggins for sure better than every player on the Lakers roster not named Lebron or AD.
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06 easily
- Apr 16, 2014
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Fixed.
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"Should've won" debates 
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My midway awards
MVP : tatum
ROY: Banchero
6th: mathurin
DPOY: JJJ
COY: Willie green
MIP: lauri
MVP : tatum
ROY: Banchero
6th: mathurin
DPOY: JJJ
COY: Willie green
MIP: lauri
HOU$TON
formerly convertibleburt
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- Sep 27, 2019
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steph for the ‘20-‘21 season: 32/5.5/5.8 while carrying wiggins, “washed” dray, and nico mannion to the 7th seed. 7 players on that squad aint even in the nba now
selective memory is nasty work
HOU$TON
formerly convertibleburt
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Mid season awards
MVP: Taco Jay
ROY: Banchero
6th: Mr. Triple Double
Dpoy: Block Panther
COY: Mark Daigneault
MIP: The Finnisher
MVP: Taco Jay
ROY: Banchero
6th: Mr. Triple Double
Dpoy: Block Panther
COY: Mark Daigneault
MIP: The Finnisher
- Sep 5, 2010
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MVP: Jokic
ROY: Banchero
6th: Brogdon
DPOY: JJJ
COY: Mike Brown
MIP: Lauri
ROY: Banchero
6th: Brogdon
DPOY: JJJ
COY: Mike Brown
MIP: Lauri
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Embiid. That's it. That's the tweet.
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Bron definitely goes for the 40-piece against the Clippers next Tuesday to make the cipher complete, right?
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Russell Westbrook being the odds on favorite for 6th man on a team 4 games under .500 is baffling
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It’s pretty strange to me how when people see these stat lines they think get Luka help instead of how great he is
