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Kind of want to talk about this, but I don't want to make a thread.

No way in hell you're telling me that Amare deserved that spot over Dirk.
Dirk is putting up 26 points and 8.5 boards while shooting 47.4% from the field.
Amare is putting up 21.3 and 8 boards while shooting 54.1% from the field.

And it's not like you can put Amare ahead of Dirk on Defense, because let's face it Amare's D is laughable.

Also, Chris Bosh is putting up 23.3 and 9.9, shooting 49.9% from the field
KG is putting up 16.1 points and 9.2 boards shooting 51.9% from the field

I mean CB is playing more mins. than KG, but he's scores 7 more points a game than KG does.
 
Naw, he probably will.
Not as a stater tho.

Melo was going to be the starter, but he got hurt.
I wonder if he'll make it as a reserve because I would put KD over him at this point.
 
-Gordon was late for a team flight
-Bulls fine Gordon for being late
-Gordon thought the fine was excessive
-Gordon reportedly cusses out Del Negro
 
From Friday night.......

Eric Gordon with 41 and Al Thorton with 34 and they lost??!!?
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Clips franchise is a damn mess, but if they can ever get a coach/GM who wants to go in and clean up the owner's mess.......they have TONS of talent to workwith. That Jordan kid even had 20 rebounds in a game recently.
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Forward Carmelo Anthony was firing jumpers with plenty of accuracy after a recent practice. But, before Nuggets fans get too excited, he's not planning to return from a broken right hand any earlier than Friday's game against Charlotte.

"I don't think it will be early," said Anthony, who has been out since getting hurt Jan. 5 against Indiana. "I still think the 30th."

Anthony was ruled out Jan. 6 for three to four weeks. The three-week mark is Tuesday.

Anthony already has missed eight games. It will be up to 10 after he sits out Tuesday at Memphis and Wednesday at New Orleans.

But Anthony isn't expecting much of an adjustment period when he returns.

"I don't think I'm out of shape," he said. "I think I've done a great job staying in shape, doing what I've got to do. Running on the court. The only thing I was missing was being able to get on the court and shoot the basketball. … I think I'll come back in better shape than I was."

Judging from his showing Saturday, his shot should be fine as well.

"It doesn't really hurt," said Anthony, who has been using a bone-stimulator device to help him heal quickly. "I was surprised about that. I'm able to shoot the ball without any pain."

Nuggets coach George Karl said Anthony will have X-rays Tuesday or Wednesday, and he expects his star to be cleared for contact work by the middle of the week.

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How has Mike Dunleavy not been fired yet?

Is that team wasn't in the shadows to the Lakers, I think he would have been gone a long time ago.
 
Originally Posted by SoHi 23

How has Mike Dunleavy not been fired yet?

Is that team wasn't in the shadows to the Lakers, I think he would have been gone a long time ago.
He's in good graces with Donald Sterling
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The Clippers can make a run at the playoffs next year ...they got good veteran pieces (Baron, ZBo, Camby, Kaman) to go along with young talent (Gordon,Thornton, DJ, another lotto pick).
 
clippers ant making the playoffs anytime soon they have a horrible mix of players
 
I just want to say that Chris Paul is a $%%#+@$ beast.

Dude is avg 22, 5.5, 11 w/ 3 steals. And he just had another trip dub tonight.

smh @ dudes that think deron is better than him.
 
So here's the deal. Or deals.

First, and I think this one can get done, is the big one: Kirk Hinrich, Andres Nocioni and Tyrus Thomas for Monta Ellis, Corey Maggette, Brandan Wright and Ronny Turiaf.

The key for the Bulls would be Ellis, who just returned from his offseason reckless riding incident and looked terrific. Ellis is a star type player, and, though somewhat smallish for shooting guard, with Rose they could be an almost unstoppable athletic backcourt.

The Warriors remain without a point guard and have a huge overload of shooting guards. They already have been rumored to have Maggette on the market. I'm not a big fan, but he would be a good scorer off the bench. The Warriors are said to like all three Bulls players, and the rumor is they're still threatening Ellis with penalties given his unapproved use of a motor scooter which resulted in an ankle injury. The relationship remains fragile and the sense around the NBA is Ellis is playing now to be showcased.

I'd be buying.

The Warriors are said to like Thomas' potential in Don Nelson's system and have bigs in Andris Biedrins and rookie Anthony Randolph, though Nelson prefers to play small. Hinrich gives them the point guard they miss and Nocioni the toughness and perimeter shooting in the wide open game that works best with an interior player like Nocioni who can stretch the court. The deal works even with Ellis' base year status.

No, it doesn't set up as a defensive team with the two small guards. But it's about talent and balancing the team with some size. So that would be just part one.

Then you offer the Clippers Drew Gooden with his expiring deal, Joakim Noah and the Bulls draft pick protected for top three for Chris Kaman, who now figures as a backup behind Marcus Camby and Zach Randolph. With a money savings and draft pick, I can't see the Clippers rejecting that, assuming, of course, a physical checks out with Kaman.

But if it does, you suddenly have a balanced Bulls team with two potential stars, role players and size.

You'd have a roster looking like this: Rose and Ellis in the backcourt, Luol Deng and Turiaf or Wright up front with Kaman at center. The bench would have Maggette as third guard, Thabo Sefolosha to backup small forward and Aaron Gray to backup center. At some point perhaps you get something for Hughes.


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Thank you to the Knicks for beating the Tracy's.
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Chris Paul..........I mean...........
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Why does everyone think the Clips are so far away? Yes they have an awful mix, but they have a ton of talent. They ever get rid of that garbage owner,GM's be linin up to get that job and take it over. They move 2 of their cancers and they are set. Owner gotta go first.


Bynum and Lebron players of the week.
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The Power Of LeBron

There was a moment during last Friday's Cavaliers-Warriors game when it looked as if Golden State center Andris Biedrins, who is no small man at 6' 11" and 245 pounds, had been sucked out of an airplane hold, so forcefully was he sent flying backward. Biedrins was attempting to protect the rim when Cleveland forward LeBron James came charging down the lane in that straight-line, parting-the-waters manner of his. Gamely, Biedrins took to the air to try to block the shot, and then -- whoomp! -- next thing you knew he was hurtling onto his backside.

As for the 6' 8" James, he remained both on-balance and on-course, as if he'd merely hit a patch of turbulence on his solo commuter flight -- nonstop from basket to basket, departing 15 times nightly -- before rattling in a layup. Minutes later he took off again, only this time he toppled two Warriors, then threw down a one-handed dunk of surpassing violence. Afterward, Golden State forward Stephen Jackson described the perils of such encounters, "As big as he is, you hope he just doesn't run you over and give you a concussion."

And just how big is James, exactly? Well, that is a matter of intense speculation around the NBA. He came into the league in 2003 weighing 240 pounds and is listed at 250 in this year's media guide, but that number is clearly low. There are whispers that he goes 265; one report recently had him at 274. "He's at least 260, right?" guessed Jackson, who added that D-ing up James is like "guarding a brick wall."

In an attempt to settle the matter last week I brought a scale to my interview with James at a ballroom in San Francisco's St. Regis Hotel. He laughed, but didn't get on, saying, "I can't let everybody know everything about LeBron," said James, who more than any other star understands the value of mystique. He did joke that he'd "gotten fat" -- this from a man with 5% body fat whose raised veins run like tiny interstates up his arms and calves -- then hemmed and hawed before confiding that he had gained eight pounds this summer "even though I was trying to lose 10." That said, a Cavs source puts James's weight "between 265 and 270."
Which, considering his extraordinary speed and skill, is staggering. There are plenty of centers who don't weigh that much, including Cleveland's own, 7' 3", 260-pound Zydrunas Ilgauskas. If Magic Johnson was the first big man to play like a point forward, then James is the league's first point linebacker. "He even makes reads like a football player," says Portland Trail Blazers coach Nate McMillan, who worked with James for the last three years on the national team. "And he has enough speed; he could probably play free safety." Imagine that coming up to hit you on a slant pattern over the middle.

It would be one thing if James were merely an athletic marvel, but his game has grown along with his physique. He's the primary reason the Cavaliers were an Eastern Conference-best 34-8 at week's end -- including 20-0 at home -- and, for the first time in James's career, a championship contender. Sure, credit also goes to coach Mike Brown, who was wise enough to delegate offensive and defensive game plans to his lieutenants this season, as well as 6' 1" Mo Williams, who is the diminutive Pippen to James's Jordan. But it all comes down to the guy who through Sunday was averaging 27.8 points, 7.2 rebounds, 6.8 assists, 2.0 steals and three mother-of-God-did-you-see-that? plays a game. "You knew the Cavs would be good, but I didn't think they'd be this good," says one Eastern Conference scout. "I didn't think LeBron was going to improve that much, especially defensively. It's not usual to see a guy his age come back better and stronger every year. He really is a freak."

If so, then let us examine this freak who, it should also be noted, has scored almost 12,000 points and is barely 24. By taking the measure of the man, perhaps we can calculate his impact on the game. Consider this LeBronatomy 101.

Chest (XXL)

This is sure to exasperate scrawny teenagers toiling in weight rooms the world over, but despite his bodybuilder's physique, James has never really lifted. At least not the way a normal human would to develop such musculature. (Think heavy weight, low reps, lots of grunting and Metallica.)

Rather, James began working out seriously only last June. "He just messed around in the weight room and got by on raw strength his first few years," says Cavs trainer Mike Mancias, who oversees all of James's conditioning work. Even now, James eschews what he calls "iron-man championship lifting," such as the bench press, for core exercises, dumbbells and, starting last summer, yoga -- not that he was an easy convert. "I had to start with poses he wouldn't think were too goofy, if you catch my drift," says Mancias. Still, there was James at a hotel in Los Angeles last summer, busting out some downward dog by the pool in front of his fellow guests.
That James has gained weight is as much a mystery to him as anyone else. He doesn't gulp protein shakes or pound down extra carbs, instead eating three square meals (such as oatmeal, chicken, salmon) prepared by his chef, with the occasional candy snack in between. "It's kind of crazy," James says. "My body's, like, reversed."

Now James lifts every game day for 20 to 30 minutes, following a set routine. Cleveland general manager Danny Ferry attributes the new regimen to James's national team experience. "From a corporate sense, it's like those guys spent their summers sharing best practices," says Ferry. "If they have a meeting in the morning and Kobe Bryant comes in sweaty, LeBron's going to say, Holy s---, this guy's already working. That's what it takes."

Arms (Fine-tuned)

Just as Tiger Woods remade his swing when he was already dominant, James spent last summer quietly reconstructing his jumper, working with assistant coach Chris Jent five days a week, an hour and a half per session. If you watched James shoot last year, you know why; even though teams were petrified of his penetration, he sometimes looked like he was chucking pumpkins at the backboard. According to NBA. com, he hit only 37.1% of his two-point jumpers from the top of the key and the wings, which are the money spots for an off-the-dribble midrange shooter.

So James worked to develop what Jent calls a "calmer" shot. This meant better balance -- when firing on the move, James has to contend with the considerable momentum created by his weight -- and keeping his right elbow locked at his side so that, as James puts it, "the ball will go straight instead of veering off sometimes."

Like a pee-wee player, James began by putting up one-handed shots close to the basket. Next came one-dribble jumpers and free throws, then midrange shots. Remarkably, never once during the sessions did he fling a three-pointer. (Let's see you spend one hour at the gym and resist the temptation.) "He's so strong that he can shoot a jumper from half-court," explains Jent. "Form first, and the range will come."

The results are encouraging, if still indicative of a work in progress. At week's end James was shooting 43.8% on two-pointers from the top of the key and the wings. When he's hot -- as he was in the Cavs' 88-80 win at Portland on Jan. 21 -- he will hit a succession of deep one-dribble pull-ups that make him all but unguardable. "That's the shot he didn't have before," noted one Eastern Conference personnel executive at the game. "A couple of those I was like, 'No way,' but he hit them." Indeed, the jumpers, fading and daggerlike, were reminiscent of -- what's his name again? -- oh yes, Mr. Bryant.

Feet (Size 16)

Last summer Idan Ravin, a Washington, D.C.-based trainer whose clients include New Orleans Hornets point guard Chris Paul and Denver Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony, worked out James and was struck by how quickly he covered ground. "Most players can go full speed from baseline to baseline in somewhere between 11 and 14 strides," says Ravin. "LeBron covers that in nine or 10."

This is especially valuable on defense. Draw a circle of, say, six feet around most players and this is how much space they can patrol -- call it their defensive radius. For James, that circle can become almost twice as big. "He can be all the way in the lane on that skip pass and still close out [on a shooter on the wing]," says Cavs assistant Mike Malone, the team's defensive coordinator. "And it's not a six-foot guy like me closing out, it's 'Holy crap, this is a big guy coming at you.' " He's become a lockdown guy too. In a Jan. 9 showdown with the defending champion Boston Celtics, James harassed swingman Paul Pierce into 4-of-15 shooting with five turnovers in a 98-83 Cleveland win. "He's leaps and bounds better on defense now," says one Eastern Conference scout, praising James's footwork, balance and understanding of schemes. "He's not trying to leak out for dunks anymore. I think before, that's what separated Kobe from him, but now LeBron has stepped it up to his level."

In essence James has become the coolest toy any defense-inclined coach could imagine. When the Cavs play the Hornets, for example, James can not only guard the 6-foot Paul, but he can also switch to 6' 9", 240-pound power forward David West on a pick-and-roll. "Instead of a little guy like Mo or Daniel Gibson, now it's LeBron switched on to West, and he can bang him," says Malone. "You know how tough that is for a team?"

Legs (Fast-twitchy)

At the NBA predraft camp six years ago, James's vertical leap was measured at 44 inches. Given that he estimates he gets about a foot higher jumping off one leg, that means that with a running start he could probably leap over your armoire without even turning horizontal. This, it goes without saying, is a useful basketball skill. For example, when asked what one part of James's game he would steal, teammate Wally Szczerbiak says, "That go-go Gadget calf muscle on his left leg."

This is not to imply James's two-foot jumping is subpar. A couple of weeks ago, with Cleveland depleted by injury, he jumped center against the Memphis Grizzlies, winning the tip against 7' 1" Marc Gasol. A week later he played center for nearly 12 minutes against the Hornets and held his own, which should come as no surprise considering what he did during the Olympics. "He would switch off on opposing centers and say, 'Don't worry about him, he ain't going anywhere," says McMillan. "Because he understands leverage, he would get underneath bigger guys so they couldn't move."

Eyes (New and Improved)

Despite his estimable court vision, up until a year ago, James had trouble seeing certain things. Like, say, road signs. Growing up, James had horrible eyesight. "I was in the classroom, and I couldn't see the chalkboard, so I had to move to the front. I couldn't see a sign three blocks down. I couldn't see a lot of stuff."

So, obviously, he got glasses, right?
"Nah," he says with a sheepish smile. "My pride wouldn't let me."

Thus during high school and his first five years in the NBA, James operated in something of a haze, which must make all the players who got torched by him feel great. Only James claims it never affected his game. "I could see everything on the court. I never had a problem with here" -- he holds his hands to the side of his head, indicating his peripheral vision -- "it was right here in front that I had the problem."

Then, a little over a year ago, James got Lasik surgery. Now, as he puts it, "it's kind of cool, because I can see stuff in the distance. I'm like, So that's what that is! Pressed, he admits it's probably improved his on-court performance too, saying, "Well, I have gotten better."

Hands (Flinging It)

They measure 9 1/4 inches from the bottom of his palm to the top of his middle finger, and he's been able to palm a basketball since the 10th grade. This allows him not only to wave it around if he so pleases on drives but also to grab a disproportionate number of one-handed rebounds. It also enables him to throw passes with astonishing velocity. "At first I had to get used to it because he'd surprise me," says Szczerbiak. "He'll be on the other side of the court and -- bam! -- the ball's right in your shooting pocket."

The Cav catching many of those passes this season is Williams, who was acquired from the Milwaukee Bucks in a three-team trade last August. That Williams is a point guard with a shooting guard's mentality is O.K. by James, who says he loves that Williams "has confidence and doesn't hesitate." That Williams is accurate doesn't hurt either; according to 82games.com he was third in the NBA this season in two-point jump shot accuracy (49.4%). The result: James finally has the sidekick he's longed for. "Every night I go out on the court, I know there's a guy I can rely on to make things happen for the team and himself and for me," says James. What he does not add is, It's about time, but no one would blame him if he did.

Brain (Like a CEO's)

As physically gifted as James is, Ravin says his "soft skills" might be his greatest asset. "He's so engaging and able to command so much attention and respect that people will mimic him," says Ravin. "That's very powerful, especially in a league of guys trying to fit in."
This season, James is even more vocal. He cajoles, he ribs, he commands, all with his coach's blessing. During huddles James suggests plays, and on the floor he has the freedom to change defensive matchups. So when you see James switch onto an elite scorer like Bryant or Blazers guard Brandon Roy, it is his decision, not Brown's.

James's knowledge of the game is such that McMillan thinks he could coach one day. Then again, as McMillan notes, "When you have that type of mind and then the talent that he has, he could do pretty much whatever he wants."

And that's the really scary part. At age 24 James is already one of the two best players on the planet while remaining far from a finished masterpiece. (The other, the 30-year-old Bryant, is pretty well-refined at this point.) "We saw him grow up from 18 to 24," says Ferry. "And we're going to see him change again from now until 30. We just don't know how."
Even James can't help but marvel at his potential sometimes. "If I'm just getting my man-strength now," he says, "I don't want to see me at 32."
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Knicks probably ain't looking at him no more with Gallinari back but my dude Pat is tearing the D-League up lately...
 
Originally Posted by SoHi 23

How has Mike Dunleavy not been fired yet?

Is that team wasn't in the shadows to the Lakers, I think he would have been gone a long time ago.
probably because he's also the gm
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GP clowning on Eric Snow
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If Granger doesn't make the All-Star game
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We got into this a little in the Laker thread......what the hell is the deal all of a sudden with players needing to be on winning teams to be in the all stargame? When did this BS start?

I seen plenty of elite guys on crap teams make the all star team, why they all buggin this season?
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GP clowning on Eric Snow
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If Granger doesn't make the All-Star game
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Eric Snow is TERRIBLE. Get that guy outta there!

All Star voting needs to be changed. No more voting in China. Fan's should not have COMPLETE control over the selection process. At all.
 
Waiting for the all-star games reserves on Thursday.

Am I the only one who would put Al Jefferson over Pau?
Even though he isn't one of the best Defensive players in the league, he deserves it.

Or I would put Melo in over Pau.

I mean, watching Pau play basketball just doesn't scream "ALL-STAR" at you, you know what I mean?
 
Originally Posted by SoHi 23

Waiting for the all-star games reserves on Thursday.

Am I the only one who would put Al Jefferson over Pau?
Even though he isn't one of the best Defensive players in the league, he deserves it.

Or I would put Melo in over Pau.

I mean, watching Pau play basketball just doesn't scream "ALL-STAR" at you, you know what I mean?


You're not the only one.
 
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