[[....<> The Official Kanye Omari West Thread <>....]] vol. GOOD Music album.

Believe me the majority of these dude in the music industry have no idea what the "Illuminati" supposedly is. Think about it how did the majority of you find about it? On message boards and youtube. You think Kanye West is on the internet looking for conspiracies?

And Jay never acted like he didnt know what it was he just said he's a dude from Macy Projects how could he be in a club like that.

People are just obsessed with the Illuminati because its a symmetrical word its just a euphemism for a bigger problem.
 
Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius

The whole black empowerment and questioning religion is what makes this album a classic. Im at the point where Im starting to question sh!% thats going on so I can relate to what Ye is sayin.
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Oh forreal? You better be 15-17 yrs old coming out your mouth with that.
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I don't get it. What was so childish about his statement?
 
ye is questioning religion a lot and i love it.....i've been questioning this %*$% since i was a youngin......scared to know the real truth though :/
 
dudes need to start going to the library and reading real books

The biggest thing i hate about this whole Illuminati thing is people are getting there information off the internet SMH

anyone can post on the internet

The books are were the truth is

If you want to know able religion are anything go find real sources don't just believe everything off of some site or homemade video

Because of the internet people no longer use there own brains or real facts anymore they just listen and read all the garage on the net and take it for fact
 
Originally Posted by MindOfCritic

Anyone can write a book too.

Thats why you do research  
And its much easier for someone to post false info online without providing real sources  
 
Originally Posted by Mr Marcus

ye is questioning religion a lot and i love it.....i've been questioning sum of this %*$% since i was a youngin......scared to know the real truth though :/

kinda this... especially the scared part. Ye lost that fear, but went through some traumatic isssh to get to that point and plus he is in a position where he pretty much living comfortably by all accounts....I aint in either position though but have seen isssh in life where I said "it cant be" and also seen isssh in life that made me say "it gotta be..."
Its easier for Ye to go down this road so I guess hats off to him...i dont see myself doing it tho, I mean for why....and once I get the results then what? I prolly have doubts about that too

& the Illuminati crap is crap....hate when folks try to take it there.
 
Originally Posted by cartune

Believe me the majority of these dude in the music industry have no idea what the "Illuminati" supposedly is. Think about it how did the majority of you find about it? On message boards and youtube. You think Kanye West is on the internet looking for conspiracies?

And Jay never acted like he didnt know what it was he just said he's a dude from Macy Projects how could he be in a club like that.

People are just obsessed with the Illuminati because its a symmetrical word its just a euphemism for a bigger problem.

I get what your saying I feel like right now it's just images and buzz words...but who is gonna be the artist that TAKES it there....
  
 
Once again here we have the ye fans with this anti illuminati defense again. Nobody is talkin about the illuminati...... Hell im pissed about this whole idea because instead of people realizing the truth that ye is spitting, they are sittin here disregarding everything and sayin he literally sold his soul to the devil.

What we are talking about is the fact that kanye is an artist not a rapper, artist always have meanings behind there art, if everything was just painted in clear detail it wouldnt be amazing work. If you look at artist from all genres music, art, fashion etc these people draw from the world around them, from what they experience, and they relay them to the world in there form of artistry. Do you really think ye is just upthere spittin random lines because they rhyme
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, no hes relaying a message, he's telling a story, there is a lot more meaning to his words and when you release an album like MDTBF its meant to be examined and thouroughly listened to.

Is he down with the "illuminati" who knows who gives a ##*$, what i do care about however as a fan of music is the direction and thoughts behind the music, the feelings that inspire an artist to say or write the things they do. So while some of yall may just throw the music on to bop your head that's cool, but dont act like its asinine for an artist to have actual meanings behind his tracks
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Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder

dudes need to start going to the library and reading real books

The biggest thing i hate about this whole Illuminati thing is people are getting there information off the internet SMH

anyone can post on the internet

The books are were the truth is

If you want to know able religion are anything go find real sources don't just believe everything off of some site or homemade video

Because of the internet people no longer use there own brains or real facts anymore they just listen and read all the garage on the net and take it for fact

I completely agree with you about idiots watchin some video and thinkin they have the answers to the world smh.. but at the same time whos to say what's written in the books is factual, its not like idiots dont have access to publishing companies also. The easiest way to gain knowledge is to retain as much information possible and creating your own thoughts and assumptions based off knowledge
  
 
Originally Posted by tyisny

Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder

dudes need to start going to the library and reading real books

The biggest thing i hate about this whole Illuminati thing is people are getting there information off the internet SMH

anyone can post on the internet

The books are were the truth is

If you want to know able religion are anything go find real sources don't just believe everything off of some site or homemade video

Because of the internet people no longer use there own brains or real facts anymore they just listen and read all the garage on the net and take it for fact

I completely agree with you about idiots watchin some video and thinkin they have the answers to the world smh.. but at the same time whos to say what's written in the books is factual, its not like idiots dont have access to publishing companies also. The easiest way to gain knowledge is to retain as much information possible and creating your own thoughts and assumptions based off knowledge
  
When i say books am not talking about books that was published 5 years ago 
Am talking about books that are decades old

Most of what is in older books are very factual because years ago in this country not everyone had a education and was able to read 

So people higher up would put stuff in books to pass around information because they know only a few could read it 

Why you talk slaves and indians , etc were never taught how to read 

Books hold a lot of information and truth about this country , religion etc
 
 That's understandable now with that said how am i to trust the words of something hundred of years old that can easily have been altered and rephrased throughout the years without me having a clue. If anything the fact that only the upper class were able to create and share these books makes it even harder for me to believe its 100 percent factual, taking the things they did into consideration.
 
If people really knew about the Illuminati 
They would know musicians especially rappers have nothing to do with it

The only reason people believe they do is because people just can't believe that a black/minority kid from the ghetto (Jay-z,kanye,etc) can become so successful and in a sense powerful  

They use whole " Illuminati" thing to rationalization there success by saying "they must have sold there sold to the devil to become successful" which makes no sense because thats not how Illuminati works the Illuminati has nothing to do with hip pop
 
Originally Posted by tyisny


 That's understandable now with that said how am i to trust the words of something hundred of years old that can easily have been altered and rephrased throughout the years without me having a clue. If anything the fact that only the upper class were able to create and share these books makes it even harder for me to believe its 100 percent factual, taking the things they did into consideration.

Like i said earlier research am not saying eveything you read is fact but you have to put 2 and 2 together to get your answer 
Not all books even back then was only written by the upper class  

Men who believed in change and revolution also wrote books and not all upper class people even back then was corrupt there were some who was good aslo 
 
Originally Posted by BLADE BR0WN

Originally Posted by bns1201

Originally Posted by 10508 Cardo Jr Ln

MissinPieces wrote:



Serious Discussion: 



IMO this album has a religious/informative underling to it.



Track titles like Hell Of A Life & Devil In A New Dress..... Jesus and Satan mentioned numerous times throughout.



All Of The Lights followed by "I shoot there lights out" in the beginning of Monster.... "Run from the lights, run for your life" in Lost In The World.



Who will survive in America?
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Thats the power of your superconscience

I seen't it too.


my beautiful dark twisted fantasy

damn ye...i feel like he's spitting in caucasians faces on the low


"...Sunk leather seats, softer than an angel's kiss...
But they 'Devil' red...
Tires, double tread...
I parks and posts up, that gets me double head...
Tight rope walk, tryina keep a level head...
BUT BRIGHT LIGHTS BLIND, LOOK AT WHAT THE DEVIL DID!!..."

- Pusha T


What is this connection between lights and the devil????

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Let's not forget "When you never F with the lights on!!" ...
 
Originally Posted by illfrozn

Originally Posted by BLADE BR0WN

Originally Posted by bns1201

Originally Posted by 10508 Cardo Jr Ln

MissinPieces wrote:



Serious Discussion: 



IMO this album has a religious/informative underling to it.



Track titles like Hell Of A Life & Devil In A New Dress..... Jesus and Satan mentioned numerous times throughout.



All Of The Lights followed by "I shoot there lights out" in the beginning of Monster.... "Run from the lights, run for your life" in Lost In The World.



Who will survive in America?
nerd.gif


Thats the power of your superconscience

I seen't it too.


my beautiful dark twisted fantasy

damn ye...i feel like he's spitting in caucasians faces on the low


"...Sunk leather seats, softer than an angel's kiss...
But they 'Devil' red...
Tires, double tread...
I parks and posts up, that gets me double head...
Tight rope walk, tryina keep a level head...
BUT BRIGHT LIGHTS BLIND, LOOK AT WHAT THE DEVIL DID!!..."

- Pusha T


What is this connection between lights and the devil????

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nerd.gif













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Let's not forget "When you never F with the lights on!!" ...



Are you serious???? did you not get the concept of that song?
 
Originally Posted by Nikekidwonder

If people really knew about the Illuminati 
They would know musicians especially rappers have nothing to do with it

The only reason people believe they do is because people just can't believe that a black/minority kid from the ghetto (Jay-z,kanye,etc) can become so successful and in a sense powerful  




They use whole " Illuminati" thing to rationalization there success by saying "they must have sold there sold to the devil to become successful" which makes no sense because thats not how Illuminati works the Illuminati has nothing to do with hip pop
And who pushes these theories the most? Lack of self-esteem/extreme detachment from reality ftl
 
Originally Posted by TheKidFrankie

Originally Posted by illfrozn

Originally Posted by BLADE BR0WN

Originally Posted by bns1201

Originally Posted by 10508 Cardo Jr Ln

MissinPieces wrote:



Serious Discussion: 



IMO this album has a religious/informative underling to it.



Track titles like Hell Of A Life & Devil In A New Dress..... Jesus and Satan mentioned numerous times throughout.



All Of The Lights followed by "I shoot there lights out" in the beginning of Monster.... "Run from the lights, run for your life" in Lost In The World.



Who will survive in America?
nerd.gif


Thats the power of your superconscience

I seen't it too.


my beautiful dark twisted fantasy

damn ye...i feel like he's spitting in caucasians faces on the low


"...Sunk leather seats, softer than an angel's kiss...
But they 'Devil' red...
Tires, double tread...
I parks and posts up, that gets me double head...
Tight rope walk, tryina keep a level head...
BUT BRIGHT LIGHTS BLIND, LOOK AT WHAT THE DEVIL DID!!..."

- Pusha T


What is this connection between lights and the devil????

nerd.gif
nerd.gif
nerd.gif













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Let's not forget "When you never F with the lights on!!" ...

Are you serious???? did you not get the concept of that song?

Don't tell me you think the song is strictly about Kanye being with a porn star?? I was only trying to add onto the discussion of the "light" ...
 
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