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you still need so many different accounts and if they all use the same billing and shipping data what I said about checking for double entries would explain why you only see Ls on that screenshot.
I know a person first hand who was won 50+ pairs of ONE drawing.
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you still need so many different accounts and if they all use the same billing and shipping data what I said about checking for double entries would explain why you only see Ls on that screenshot.
and again my question: do you need to verify your account with your phone number before entering the draw in the US?
You see L's
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you still need so many different accounts and if they all use the same billing and shipping data what I said about checking for double entries would explain why you only see Ls on that screenshot.
and again my question: do you need to verify your account with your phone number before entering the draw in the US?
That's a W for entry number 68, all other shown entries are Ls
You see L's
I see 68 pairs ordered
All your questions can be google'd
As I've a programmer (and sXe) background as well, I understand your point. But afaik it's possible to use bots to make like hundreds of accounts and to use all of them in a raffle. But imho it's a lot harder, than just buying multiples items at once.
the credit card paypal account is verified the moment you enter the draw with a pending payment.
i believe nike would simply give an L to everyone who enters a double credit card or a double address. that would be a very small programming effort and no problem at all to let there algorithm check (thousand of entries is a very small number, even for millions of data it would be no problem at all to check that).
temporary credit card numbers, if there is such a thing would probably work same as po boxes and stuff. but then again, you would have to register these cc numbers and po boxes and i guess pay for it. of course you can do that, and of course a bot can do the dirty work for you, but then again you have 30 minutes time. if you are working fast and prepared you can simply insert 30-60 entries manually in that time. the real advantage in the use of bots is that they are plain faster than clicking and can use proxies to try many times at the same time. the only advantage of the usage of a bot in that case, in my opionon is that you can add more entries with valid accounts each than you can handle manually in 30 minutes, so that would be the case if you have way over 30 valid accounts with different credit cards and addresses.
Your other question. Nike will have good security standards, but nothing is impossible. Of course a program can be manipulated, of course there can be backdoors, but that's hacking, that's not the work a bot will do for you. You need a lot, i mean a lot of experince in the field, and a lot of criminal energy to do such a thing and put your own credit card and address in afterwards.
No that's 68 Email orders received not email # 68
That's a W for entry number 68, all other shown entries are Ls
That's a pretty good question and a just a assumption Nike would do that, because it would be easily doable and the reason they use The Draw was to decrease the effect of bots.What I wanna know is: does Nike even check the raffle accounts like same CC or same IP => L? Or maybe even the timestamp when a new Acc is created?
My guess: they don't. As I have an Account and my Wife has an Account with the same Address,Lastname, Cellphone but different Paypal as well - but we are aiming for different sizes of course.
In your expert opinion, do you think it would be possible to mask double payment methods or to only need seperate info for accounts that actually win? Are they verifying a hundred thousand bank accounts, phone numbers, addresses ect in 30 minutes? I know there is such a thing as temporary cc numbers, which can route to the same account. Email generators. Phone number manipulation software. I personally, with no technological help, could have 40 different accounts thru friends/family, multiple bank/pp accts, po boxes/dba addresses if it was worth upwards of 5 figures. Thats the easy part. Could the draw program itself be manipulated? If it was strictly limited to data entry then there would be no use for a bot at all in a draw or queue system. SNKRS app and other apps could not be manipulated for drops, but they are. I dont know how they do it, but i know they do it. Im sure it is a cat and mouse game and some of the bigger names like nike have more resources to protect their website, but how much time and money are they really willing to devote to the issue when they are gonna make the same profit regardless of who is actually buying the stock.
the credit card paypal account is verified the moment you enter the draw with a pending payment.
i believe nike would simply give an L to everyone who enters a double credit card or a double address. that would be a very small programming effort and no problem at all to let there algorithm check (thousand of entries is a very small number, even for millions of data it would be no problem at all to check that).
temporary credit card numbers, if there is such a thing would probably work same as po boxes and stuff. but then again, you would have to register these cc numbers and po boxes and i guess pay for it. of course you can do that, and of course a bot can do the dirty work for you, but then again you have 30 minutes time. if you are working fast and prepared you can simply insert 30-60 entries manually in that time. the real advantage in the use of bots is that they are plain faster than clicking and can use proxies to try many times at the same time. the only advantage of the usage of a bot in that case, in my opionon is that you can add more entries with valid accounts each than you can handle manually in 30 minutes, so that would be the case if you have way over 30 valid accounts with different credit cards and addresses.
Your other question. Nike will have good security standards, but nothing is impossible. Of course a program can be manipulated, of course there can be backdoors, but that's hacking, that's not the work a bot will do for you. You need a lot, i mean a lot of experince in the field, and a lot of criminal energy to do such a thing and put your own credit card and address in afterwards.
You're wrong
That's a W for entry number 68, all other shown entries are Ls