The MMA Thread: DON'T ASK 4 STREAMS & NO GIFS- Cannonier, Imavov, Reyes, Rosas on NOW

[Vincent Van Goat]

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Let’s will this into reality

 

[SORIANOTRON]

He’s legit so I’m not mad if they fast track him and give him favorable match ups….he’s already in his prime so this is it.

dana & sean shelby have to give him a moderately attainable path to a TS if they want that big fight

*cough* conor *cough*

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I'm hella happy Izzy acknowledged it outright and didn't big time him or just no sell it

I don't think this is a Joe Duffy situation (which no disrespect to Duffy, he was actually a solid fighter) where you kind of wanted to see him rematch Conor but then again it wasn't like some Elephant in the room

Feel like Pereira is a legit killer. This one feels like "ok, Izzy this guy is formidable and now there's a legit path to fight him", let's try to make this happen

You definitely should match him up wisely though, the ground game aint nothin to play with. Keep training with Glover but avoid guys like Brunson and Vetorri obviously. I still say unranked next, followed by a Holland level fighter and then maybe one more legit contender (whether you want a Till type or a legit grappler)

 

[spiderjericho]

Chandler and McGregor would be a good matchup as they're both guys that like to start off with a flurry and try to put you away early. They probably give Chandler a big step down next to get his confidence back up though.

I, personally, think this is a bad matchup for Conor. Mike is a big guy and he can wrestle which is one of Conor’s kryptonite. But the Irish fella does like a good challenge and it could help with the against the narrative that he’s terrible against wrestlers…when it’s just everyone is bad against Khabib.

Lol for what? Side show aside the fights are lopsided. It’s over

They’re not lopsided. Colby “respected” Usman too much in fight #2. Maybe it was respect for his improved striking, maybe it was an aversion to be the latest victim on the Summer Jam screen or lastly a case of getting a good read on Usman’s offense/defense. Colby literally came roaring back in rounds 3-5. He fumbled it by not being himself and setting that pace again. His chin and jaw clearly held up this time.

Might have to retract the MAGA Chandler slander.

Dude got an adopted black son.

The kid was obviously on the adoption market, so to ask Vince…is it worse that the boy doesn’t have a stable home or that Chandler demonstrates MAGA qualities?

I watch a lot of the Weighing In podcast and always hear Josh crap on Chandler but I have yet to see why from just interviews and videos since he's been in the UFC. He says he's fake and will just say stuff like "I knew I wanted to be a fighter when I exited the womb". I mean fighters do tend to say some stupid stuff but Chandler hasn't said anything that much dumber than others. He seems like an okay guy considering.

Bro, there’s a lot of egos in MMA. That same episode said they had a viewing party with Me Too Brian and Chris, Liar Brandon and Big Headed Josh and John. Don’t bring your sister or daughter around that crew.

Dustin P, who is arguably one of the better strikers/boxers in the UFC said Peter Yan is the best boxer in the Company.

He’s legit so I’m not mad if they fast track him and give him favorable match ups….he’s already in his prime so this is it.

dana & sean shelby have to give him a moderately attainable path to a TS if they want that big fight

*cough* conor *cough*

Alex P has a lot of questions against non kick boxing type MMA fighters. Fast tracking him might be great for the Izzy fight. But he could end up being another Gogan Saki (sp).

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Mystic Izzy

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

When you're getting lectured by Ariel Helwani you know you're just in a low place

 

[spiderjericho]

Lol because Ariel is a soy boy?

And DC was going hard in the paint about that takedown argument. Calling out the truck. It’s crazy how a lot of folks (including me) don’t know all the MMA rules or judging criteria. Queue Big John to tell us he knew…

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

He hasn't quite lapped the division yet so I don't see the rush in trying to fight your close friend in Izzy. It's not a fight that's all that must see imo

The potential Leon rematch, Luque, Chimaev... hell even someone like Sean Brady or Rakhmanov will be on the come up...

Henry Cejudo: “You’ve already lapped the [welterweight] division, Kamaru Usman. You’ve already lapped. You’ve already beat Colby [Covington] twice. You’ve already beat [Jorge] Masvidal a couple times too. I mean, the winner of Masvidal and [Leon] Edwards, I mean, you’re gonna beat Edwards again. There’s only one take in my side, and that’s saying go up and fight your African brother [Israel Adesanya]. Because this is about legacy.”

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Woke up and chose violence

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Damb at Anderson's son

 

[jayt1202]

Usamn definitely should fight 3-4 more times at WW before even considering the Izzy fight but such is the world we live in. With Luque in the mix, the Brady/Chiesa and Edwards/Masvidal fights coming up I wonder who they go with for the next shot. I'd say if Edwards loses they go with Luque and Brady is likely still another big win away from a shot for now.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

If Leon loses the whole picture gets shaken up

Luque should get the shot but it doesn't seem like Dana ever mentions him at all

 

[jewseejay]

was that 205 vs 170? that was tremendously bad. Id sleep that dude. Andersons son needs to start selling insurance or something. This is NOT the way for the boy.

 

[shogun]

dana such a petty POS. Guess he's still mad at esparza for waiting for a titleshot she rightfully earned by winning 5 straight. he won't say she has the next shot but said he has someone in mind. Either he's messing with her and gonna give her the fight in a few weeks or screw her over and give it to rodrigues who she beat.

 

[xbiker47]

I really think Dana wants to give Rodriguez that fight and screw over Esparza

 

[blackcease]

Adesanya vs Usman isn't even that interesting tbh, I don't think Usman can keep him down. And if he can't keep Izzy down, it's target practice.

I know BJ got ****ted on for saying this earlier but I basically agree with him, I think someone who depends on a strong wrestling base to dominate their weight class is probably not gonna be too successful moving up. Great striking, and to a much lesser extent great BJJ, seem to be more useful.

It's no coincidence that the most dominant wrestling based champs of recent times have also been big for the weight class (Khabib, Usman, Bones), and either never talk about moving up in weight, or do a whole lot of pump faking. They're not built for that*.

*Cejudo won the belt at 135 because of his striking, and Cormier is a heavyweight that dieted down to 205

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Also those 10 lb jumps in weight are imo way less than the 15 Lb or more jump to the next

Do we really want to see usman just try to hold izzy down. I don’t lol, even if he does that’s ***

 

[jayt1202]

For those who don't know there is a new UFC Destined episode up on ESPN+ covering the Holloway-Yair fight. Really good watch and great production values. For as good as the visuals are ESPN barely promotes this series. I always enjoy the 2nd parts which show the aftermath of the fight with the highs and lows felt by both winner and loser.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Give usman credit for always mentioning the rightful contenders— his one money grab was the jorge rematch but I’m not mad at that

“Looking at the division, there are some match-ups there. Leon Edwards goes out and gets the job done [against Jorge Masvidal at UFC 269], if he goes out and starches Masvidal, Leon Edwards is a bona fide star. He hasn’t lost since he fought me the first time and that’s what people are gonna want to see,” Usman said (via SportsKeeda).

“Also, you can’t forget Vicente Luque. Vicente is as battle-tested as anybody. He’s as fun of a fighter as anybody. With the way that I fight now and where I’m at, Vicente Luque is another exciting prospect, exciting contender I should say. I’m waiting for these guys to step up and say, ‘hey, I’m the next guy.”

 

[dasitmane]

If Leon loses the whole picture gets shaken up

Luque should get the shot but it doesn't seem like Dana ever mentions him at all

Fwiw luque was the alternate in the title fight last week so I’m sure he’s in consideration. Usman will be willing to throw him a bone since they were at blackzillians together.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Fwiw luque was the alternate in the title fight last week so I’m sure he’s in consideration. Usman will be willing to throw him a bone since they were at blackzillians together.

Good point. Hopefully it does mean something. They did the same thing with Manel kape and it kinda didn’t lead to anything

If Leon loses it makes the most sense there’s no one else really

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Aaron Pico back on Friday! He's fighting an undefeated grinder. If Pico gets a dominant win, I'd say rematch him with Borics! #1 contender fight. I'm all in on Pico I hope he can get that fight with AJ

I think Burnells needs another win, his last win was controversial over Sanchez

I can't believe they dropped Jay Jay Wilson from the rankings after he missed weight and the fight was cancelled with Borics

 

[steevoo1]

Luque missing weight as an alternate might be a bad look on him. They said that he wasn't even told to stop cutting either in case something unexpected happened on fight day.