The Combat Jack Show Thread

[Maximus Meridius]

I can't roll with that because iv'e seen him publicly lay claim to his statements & actions numerous times through this whole thing & not blame it on mental health. Like verbatim stated he doesn't want anyone to dismiss his comments as a result of his mental state.

If anyone has tied in the "circus" with mental health it was the media & people who are acting as if Kanye can't have these thoughts w/o it being some kind of mental illness. The only time i heard him refer to his mental health in collabortion with his comments was the TMZ interview, and even then he still maintained the same message... he just claimed that his delivery was a bit off due to the Drugs.

However outside of that Kanye has consistently doubled down on his comments & thoughts w/o tying it too mental health.

That whole Drake twitter melt down recently he kept throwing "mental health" at the end of his jokes and nonsense.

That's when I really knew it was BS. His people probably told him to milk this "mental health" to clean up your mess and try to get some sympathy from the public. I don't know whats in his head but based what he's showing it's BS.

 

[All Ready]

the phrase on the album cover of ‘ye’ tells you how kanye is moving

me personally, I don’t focus on whether he’s prostituting his mental health but I moreso focus on the medical and pharmaceutical industry pimping mental health

it’s hard to take claims of bipolar disorder serious when every loud mouth claims to have it from women to men

i take it more as kanye is lost or begging for acceptance from certain people more than I point at mental health

in the past he always came off as unnecessarily arrogant, he never really came off as someone who has lost grip with reality

but now I still don’t feel like he lost grip, it just comes off as he’s playing stupid

it doesn’t even come off as geniune nor do I entertain his nonsense

he is a highly successful daylyt

 

[trynafeelmink]

That whole Drake twitter melt down recently he kept throwing "mental health" at the end of his jokes and nonsense.

That's when I really knew it was BS. His people probably told him to milk this "mental health" to clean up your mess and try to get some sympathy from the public. I don't know whats in his head but based what he's showing it's BS.

Again tho like several people have mentioned, he's been publicly dealing with menatl health issues in the open for the past 2-3 years.

All he said to drake about the Mental health issues was that drake has a past of trying to target those who have them & use it as a way to clown them.... which Drake has.

Nowhere did he state he was airing out his Drake issues because he's mentally ill. He just stated that Drake knows he's dealing with those issues & has continued go at him while he's dealing with that. I wouldn't say he's using that as a crutch.

this whole idea of Kanye is trying to sell us something & this is all for promotion just rubs me the wrong way, because the moves that he makes are COMPLETELY counter intuitive to doing anything good for his brand .

Whether we agree with what Kanye is saying or not, i 100% believe that he's believes all the **** he says. Your team isn't gonna set up a plan to try & get sympathy, and than also plan for you to promote Donald Trump & call your mental illness a super power. This whole theory just doesn't make very much sense if the goal is to gain forgiveness & boost sales & anticipation for anything he's selling.

ESPECIALLY when Ye has a long track record of what works for his success & ALL of the opportunities to complete that. Someone who is married into the Kardashians, arguably Adidas biggest face, and could literally work with any artist in the industry......... isn't gonna claim crazy & support Donald Trump as a means to get attention. I think its very clear that Kanye could grab this same attention using much less polarizing routes, if that's what he was really after.

 

[iamdef]

Because I've related to Kanye for a long time, when I listen to what he says I often come away with the thought that he's often speaking on things that he just understands and has never had to explain to anybody because they're often thoughts that he has only spoken to himself about or he's thinking that the things he's saying or doing are exempt from being assessed based on current stereotypes. LIke the MAGA hat thing, he thinks he can "redefine" the hat but he's ignoring how solidified that racist stigma is with that hat. He thinks he can "defeat" it by himself but he's obviously mistaken.

 

[Magic33]

so he has mental health issues

but continues to promote not taking your meds and following doctors orders?

 

[Magic33]

Because I've related to Kanye for a long time, when I listen to what he says I often come away with the thought that he's often speaking on things that he just understands and has never had to explain to anybody because they're often thoughts that he has only spoken to himself about or he's thinking that the things he's saying or doing are exempt from being assessed based on current stereotypes. LIke the MAGA hat thing, he thinks he can "redefine" the hat but he's ignoring how solidified that racist stigma is with that hat. He thinks he can "defeat" it by himself but he's obviously mistaken.

He's not just supporting the hat, he also promotes the cheeto under it

 

[osirus]

Haven't listened to Bodega boys in dumb long. When did Victor get a mic and speech time?

 

[iamdef]

He's not just supporting the hat, he also promotes the cheeto under it

He may not be supporting the hat but he is using the hat as this item that he can redefine from what society deems it.

Kanye sees himself in Trump in the way that he (Trump) was told he couldn't do something (run for pres) but he did it against those who doubted him, and did it successfully. Kanye does not champion trump for anything other than the fact that Trump is not one who bows down to the "norm" or is limited by what people say.

Kanye unfortunately does not think it's important to make a glaring distinction between the spirit of fighting against the odds and who Trump is at his core. He thinks that he can just "love" through the hatred and the darkness that surrounds all of these negative things but he misunderstands how deep the darkness goes. Kanye believes that because his intentions are "pure" he can speak to Trump, wear the hat, do other things and show people a "better way" and it will happen. But he's underestimating how deep the hate really runs on that side of reality.

 

[Hahahaha]

I'm not giving Kanye a pass, it's funny some of y'all keep giving him passes. He's been doing this **** for too long. If he did it once and only once, cool. He been doing this for like three years.

 

[jr paperstacks]

Kanye said he wasn't bipolar, he was just sleep deprived. That's when I was 100% sure he wasn't serious.

 

[trynafeelmink]

so he has mental health issues

but continues to promote not taking your meds and following doctors orders?

He has also Spoken in depth about his experience while taking the drugs & the impact on him, He is deciding not to take his meds... i don't see how that would absolve someone from having actual mental health issues.

I just beg to know out of All the superstar collabs he could have did, the millions of eyes he could have had from the Kardshian hype machine, Being one of the premier people at Adidas......... him & his team decided to forego all that, and said nah you know what will really get me support from the people.........

Claiming that i'm mentally ill (in a society that tends to demonize those issues) & aligning myself with one of the most hated men on the planet. It just not logical, i understand people being tired of Kanye/Not ****in with him that's there decision to make.

I just have gotten sick of this Kanye is trolling for attention narrative when it comes to this particular issue because its just not a logical premise. He could have done a million other things to draw eyes & support to whatever he's doing. I honestly think people have such a hard time believing that someones beliefs differ so much from their own..... that they would rather believe that person is lying for attention or flat out lost their mind, rather then believe someone can have a completely different thought process.

 

[jr paperstacks]

We also really don't talk enough about how Kanye just isn't making good music. Very simple.

That's his problem. He's not connecting anymore. I think his behavior has more to do with his time being up than anything else--he's having a hard time with that. All his cultural relevance is surrounding his antics now. Kanye West dropped an album last year and nobody cared. That's a first for him. Drake hurts his heart because he's connecting with JUST the music. It's tough. I just don't think he was ready to have the fall from grace that he's had. He's upset. He blames his black fans for it and I'd even venture to say he supports Trump out of some latent spite that he's been abandoned by his fans on the music front. He thinks we've been "conditioned" to not like him in the same way that we've been "conditioned" to not like Trump. He went all the way that way because he wants to have that excuse for his music not connecting.

This is Kanye putting himself on the cross. This is Kanye martyring himself. It's all trash.

 

[iamdef]

We also really don't talk enough about how Kanye just isn't making good music. Very simple.

Debatable. I don't have a major problem with the majority of his music lately.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Kanye said he wasn't bipolar, he was just sleep deprived. That's when I was 100% sure he wasn't serious.

We also really don't talk enough about how Kanye just isn't making good music. Very simple.

That's his problem. He's not connecting anymore. I think his behavior has more to do with his time being up than anything else--he's having a hard time with that. All his cultural relevance is surrounding his antics now. Kanye West dropped an album last year and nobody cared. That's a first for him. Drake hurts his heart because he's connecting with JUST the music. It's tough. I just don't think he was ready to have the fall from grace that he's had. He's upset. He blames his black fans for it and I'd even venture to say he supports Trump out of some latent spite that he's been abandoned by his fans on the music front. He thinks we've been "conditioned" to not like him in the same way that we've been "conditioned" to not like Trump. He went all the way that way because he wants to have that excuse for his music not connecting.

This is Kanye putting himself on the cross. This is Kanye martyring himself. It's all trash.

Man pass the collection plate.

Debatable. I don't have a major problem with the majority of his music lately.

But Kanye himself has admitted Drake is always on his mind. He feel like Drake is a threat to his spot or took his spot. I use to wonder why he would randomly bring up Drake in interviews back in 2013 and 14. Pusha has said Drake and Kanye got some weirdo **** going on.

 

[iamdef]

But Kanye himself has admitted Drake is always on his mind. He feel like Drake is a threat to his spot or took his spot. I use to wonder why he would randomly bring up Drake in interviews back in 2013 and 14. Pusha has said Drake and Kanye got some weirdo **** going on.

No question, Ye's self esteem has taken a hit and I think he's riding so hard on the "They told me I'd fail before, I can prove them wrong again" thought that he's looking at this all from so far ahead in time he can convince himself to ignore all the signs because he thinks it will all work out in the end

 

[tay1]

It's clear Ye has mental issues. It's also clear he's using it as a reason to act crazy

 

[iamdef]

It's clear Ye has mental issues. It's also clear he's using it as a reason to act crazy

To be honest, this statement is more so one that "proves" one of his points. Ye's blundering attempt at normalizing speaking on ones own mental state has many lessons that he just cannot simply make but instead he creates such a buzz around them people only remember the show but not the message.

As far as the "act crazy" statement, Ye seems to think that by behaving outside of what we consider "normal" he's opening this door of "free thinkers" to not be constrained by what society claims as normal/sane. You calling him crazy would only fuel him to keep doing what he's doing because he thinks he's going to single handedly change the stigma.

If you go back to his SNL "speech" him saying he was "bullied" was people trying to convince him not to wear the MAGA hat because the public has deemed it bad, it is but he thinks by wearing the hat, again, he can change the stigma of it.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I do not believe he's trying to or wants to change the stigma of that hat. Nah, I can't fall for that.

He's just another c**n kissing the *** of who's in power.

 

[iamdef]

I do not believe he's trying to or wants to change the stigma of that hat. Nah, I can't fall for that.

He's just another c**n kissing the *** of who's in power.

Why not?

I think he's just a smart person who thinks that the smarts in one area equate to smarts in ALL areas and is making a fool of himself

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Why not?

I think he's just a smart person who thinks that the smarts in one area equate to smarts in ALL areas and is making a fool of himself

Because it don't make sense and he's not that deep. He's doing it to align himself with white people on power. He's always worshiped rich white men. All them fashion dudes, Steve Jobs, Walt Disney (another racist).

 

[iamdef]

Because it don't make sense and he's not that deep. He's doing it to align himself with white people on power. He's always worshiped rich white men. All them fashion dudes, Steve Jobs, Walt Disney (another racist).

Did he "worship" them because they were white? When you look at the elite in fashion, how many brown faces do you see? Are there some? Sure, but I think it's much more possible that he looked at brands that he liked, ideas that he follows and made the decision to praise those men based on their status or the respect their names garner.

 

[All Ready]

another thing people always leave out

kanye is f***ing 40 years old

this man knows how to articulate himself and has done so for an entire career thru his music

kanye is a hurt slave who wants a better bed in the house

 

[Magic33]

 

[Magic33]

Joe got defensive about Tiffany Haddish. even threw a shot about the N word, that went over Mal's head.

Rory - he considers himself white

Why are white dudes schooling this buffoon on race.

Dude said she should stop stand up and stick to movies and then said I didn't say she should give up her career.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

I knew someone was going to try to use that ******** 'he's mexican' argument.

Come on, Mal.