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Who will represent the Western Conference in the NBA Finals?

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What makes me start to think Lebron has a better career than Kobe is



Lebron's 4 NBA MVPs to Kobes 1 NBA MVP



Kobe basically has 2 rings as the undisputed leader of his team, same as Lebron



Lebron has better stats all across the board



I couldn't see Kobe carrying the 2007 or 2015 Cavaliers teams to the NBA Finals



When you start lobbying for Kobe the only talking point you have is rings but Kobe had an all time great co-pilot while winning them
nash has as many mvp as kobe and shaq combined. the mvp is kinda fraudulent as well, 


Which Lebron MVP was fraudulent though?
you could make the argument that lebron is a better regular season player

too bad he has to constantly choke in the playoffs tho

he's lucky he wasn't drafted on a western team 

I believe Lebron has better playoff stats too
 
Austin tho! 
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What makes me start to think Lebron has a better career than Kobe is



Lebron's 4 NBA MVPs to Kobes 1 NBA MVP



Kobe basically has 2 rings as the undisputed leader of his team, same as Lebron



Lebron has better stats all across the board



I couldn't see Kobe carrying the 2007 or 2015 Cavaliers teams to the NBA Finals



When you start lobbying for Kobe the only talking point you have is rings but Kobe had an all time great co-pilot while winning them
nash has as many mvp as kobe and shaq combined. the mvp is kinda fraudulent as well, 

Which Lebron MVP was fraudulent though?
you could make the argument that lebron is a better regular season player

too bad he has to constantly choke in the playoffs tho

he's lucky he wasn't drafted on a western team 
I believe Lebron has better playoff stats too
do stats = wins?

anyone can score 215 points in the finals if they are allowed to take 196 shots

its not about stats, its about making enough of a difference that your team ends the game with more points than the other team 
 
I saw a graphic showing Shuttleworth's career numbers since it's his bday and it showed that he's #1 with 2973 3s; it got me thinking how far down the list steph was. I didn't think he was that low, but we all know he's gonna retire as #1. Son should hit #3000 and walk off the court.

 
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Now you know we're in the dog days of the NBA season.


cats brought out old faithful arguments to generate conversation.
 
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Its unrelated actually

Just because Nash has MVPs it doesn't mean Lebron's MVPs are fraudulent

Which season did Lebron not deserve to win the NBA MVP award when he won it?

Lebron has 4 times the amount of MVP awards Kobe does...isnt that kinda strange to you?
not at all. media given awards . always looking for stories and they have they agendas. it is what it is . just dont bring em up in A>B arguments. 
 
lebron is the nba equivalent to peyton manning. 

Thats fair but you still have give Peyton Manning his due because of how dominant he has been
do stats = wins?


anyone can score 215 points in the finals if they are allowed to take 196 shots

its not about stats, its about making enough of a difference that your team ends the game with more points than the other team 

Kobe had Shaq for 3 for those championships and argubly he wasnt the leader of the teams

Id be willing to guess that Lebron has the same or better winning percentage in the playoffs as Post Shaq Kobe does
 
Its unrelated actually


Just because Nash has MVPs it doesn't mean Lebron's MVPs are fraudulent


Which season did Lebron not deserve to win the NBA MVP award when he won it?


Lebron has 4 times the amount of MVP awards Kobe does...isnt that kinda strange to you?
not at all. media given awards . always looking for stories and they have they agendas. it is what it is . just dont bring em up in A>B arguments. 

So NBA MVPs dont count?

What about NBA Finals MVP?

Do you stats count?

Or just rings?
 
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Why do people say LB chokes in the playoff? Lebron's playoffs numbers are impressive. Way better than what he gets credit for. Every championship that he has lost, the other team was clearly better.
 
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