THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

[bhzmafia14]

The Warriors are another team that built their squad through the draft. If they don't trade for an elite defensive center or sign and trade for the Finals MVP, do they even win a title this year? THOSE are the type of moves I'm talking about. You can call the Warriors FO great for drafting Curry, Klay and Draymond, but if they don't make those moves to push them over the top (plus hiring Kerr), then what?

 

[junglejim]

 
Exactly! Since 2009 they've done NOTHING to improve.

They have added Kanter, Payne, Mitch, Thabo, Waiters....

 

[addict4sneakers]

Kinda hard to judge roster improvements when the core is always hurt.

Guys like morrow, singler and yes, kanter will show their value playing alongside durant/Westbrook

 

[bhzmafia14]

They have added Kanter, Payne, Mitch, Thabo, Waiters....

Ok, they added a guy who is historically the worst defensive center in the NBA since 1973, a rookie from last year, a guy who isn't even on the team anymore and fans started to hate and a guy that OKC fans didn't even want in the first place...

I'm not saying all of their moves have been bad. Adding Morrow and Augustine were good moves. Hell, even adding Perk at the time was a solid move that helped them beat the Lakers, but what they basically had to give up because they wanted to keep Perk is what hurt them.

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

 


Obviously the Spurs are the exception.  Do you see players knocking down the doors to go to Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Memphis, Denver, Detroit, Utah, Atlanta, Charlotte, or Phoenix????????

OMGAWDORZ Milwaukee signed a free agent everyone.  The market is shifting to small market teams.

Milwaukee signed Monroe, a bigger free agent than any the Thunder have signed

When have the Thunder had that type of FA money to sign a guy like Monroe?

 

[junglejim]

 
Milwaukee signed Monroe, a bigger free agent than any the Thunder have signed

Milwaukee also had cap room for a max contract player......

 

[IATT]

NO ONE GONNA SAY NOTHING ABOUT DAT BLEDSOE FOR FAB MELO TRADE THO

 

Spoiler

just playin, they still cold in the draft department. i just wanted to rustle some jimmies

I thought it was for a future pick.. didn't boston take fab?

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

Because small market teams typically have to build through the draft........

I'm sorry, did David West just go to the Spurs for nothing? And I believe the biggest FA of this offseason signed there too.

If you have the foundation, people will gravitate toward you. Doesn't matter where you are.

And I'd say Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook are more than just a foundation.

So let me ask you this, is Minny FO better than OKC?

 

[Clyde Frog]

i dont understand what the issue is with the thunder. thats one of the best teams in the league if durant, ibaka and westbrook are healthy.

Thunder have had a mixture of bad management and misfortune but assuming the entire squad stays healthy this really should be their year. As of right now they have enough to reach the Finals with what they got. I can see them beating everyone but having issues with the Spurs. I also think they match up really well with the Warriors. If theres a PG I can see containing Curry its Russell. While I see Curry having issues guarding Russell. Dont see anyone containing Durant. And with Ibaka becoming as versatile as he is now that small ball stuff wont work against the thunder.

If they are healthy they just need to avoid or get through the Spurs and I see them as the favorites to make the Finals.

 

[jpzx]

Quote by junglejim: Obviously the Spurs are the exception. Do you see players knocking down the doors to go to Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Memphis, Denver, Detroit, Utah, Atlanta, Charlotte, or Phoenix????????

OMGAWDORZ Milwaukee signed a free agent everyone. The market is shifting to small market teams.

You are plainly calling them outliers and ignoring the WHY, why did they go there?

Because there WAS something there already. The Bucks future clearly looks bright and the Spurs have a system of former/current stars that works tremendously.

Oklahoma City has two of the league's better stars.

And you think many, many others wouldn't also make the atypical decision to go to small-market Oklahoma City, and play with KD and Westbrook? Good luck to you and Presti in your future endeavors.

Quote by JohnnyRedStorm: durant, westbrook, ibaka

The problem is you listed off three players that were all present for the 2012 NBA Finals. The problem is with the "since then." I think the "since then" shows how fleeting a young team primed for plenty of future success can be if you barely tinker with the roster since the Harden trade, making zero transactions that have actually moved the needle.

 

[atransta]

It definitely could be that way if they don't win it all this year and KD leaves.


But they're going to win as long as RUSS/KD/Ibaka/Adams stay healthy.

There's no team out there with a better top 3 players than them, I think people are underestimating Bestbrook and especially Ibaka's development.


Dude was really the BEST rim protector in the entire league the whole year if we don't count Gobert and he's hitting 38% from 3, that's unheard of.

You put a lineup of Russ/Morrow/KD/Ibaka/Adams on the floor and you have 3 guys shooting 38% or better from 3, elite rim protection from both bigs and an unstoppable force at the PG.

Golden State is the only team that really has the firepower to match them at full strength, a Conference Finals between those two is all I want.

Haven't caught up all the way with the thread yet but repped.

This line up is deadly but the only downfall is that morrow isn't quick enough to guard any 2 guards but if we can hide him on someone that would be great.

 

[silverbackhoney]

 
They have added Kanter, Payne, Mitch, Thabo, Waiters....

im going to assume this is trolling

 

[IATT]

 

 
Exactly! Since 2009 they've done NOTHING to improve.

They have added Kanter, Payne, Mitch, Thabo, Waiters....

adams.. reggie Jackson.. morrow..

 

[junglejim]

The Warriors are another team that built their squad through the draft. If they don't trade for an elite defensive center or sign and trade for the Finals MVP, do they even win a title this year? THOSE are the type of moves I'm talking about. You can call the Warriors FO great for drafting Curry, Klay and Draymond, but if they don't make those moves to push them over the top (plus hiring Kerr), then what?

The Warriors also had the fortune of not having a single injury and playing a team in the finals that was missing 40% of their starting lineup.  Would the Warriors have won this year is Steph had foot problems like Durant or Knee problems like Westbrook last year and the year before that?

 

[bhzmafia14]

I thought it was for a future pick.. didn't boston take fab?

He was involved in the Perkins/Green swap as a pick, so I do think BOS took him.

 

[Clyde Frog]

The Warriors avoided the Spurs, Clippers, and a healthy Thunder squad. I'm far from sold that they're the favorites next year.

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

The Warriors avoided the Spurs, Clippers, and a healthy Thunder squad. I'm far from sold that they're the favorites next year.

QFT.

 

[junglejim]

 
im going to assume this is trolling

who did they trade to get Waiters?  A first rounder that will likely be 25-30 range.  What a horrible trade.  I wish they would bring in some talent.

 

[jpzx]

The Warriors also had the fortune of not having a single injury and playing a team in the finals that was missing 40% of their starting lineup.  Would the Warriors have won this year is Steph had foot problems like Durant or Knee problems like Westbrook last year and the year before that?

You're giving a lot of Finals credit to a team that didn't make the playoffs. Oh, and we don't know if the Warriors would've won, which is why nobody should care about your unanswerable question.

Hey, maybe the Thunder could've made the playoffs with Westbrook, even with the other injuries, if not for their completely average supporting cast. Or we can all blame it 100% on Scape Brooks because you all love that really level-headed stance.

 

[silverbackhoney]

 
who did they trade to get Waiters?  A first rounder that will likely be 25-30 range.  What a horrible trade.  I wish they would bring in some talent.

Dion Waiters

Dion

Waiters

The Warriors avoided the Spurs, Clippers, and a healthy Thunder squad. I'm far from sold that they're the favorites next year.

how the hell did you sneak that one in there

 

[bhzmafia14]

We can talk about IF's when it comes to the Warriors (and I'm one of their biggest critics ). The whole point is that they made additional moves to go out and improve their squad. They didn't just say "oh we got Curry, Thompson and Draymond. we can be cheap and still get by"

They didn't even initially have money to sign Iguodala, but they shipped out their expirings to get him in a S&T.

 

[nick.]

the takes in here are red hot today...

 

[junglejim]

You're giving a lot of Finals credit to a team that didn't make the playoffs. Oh, and we don't know if the Warriors would've won, which is why nobody should care about your unanswerable question.

Hey, maybe that's because of the terrible supporting cast. Or we can all blame it 100% on Scape Brooks because you all love that really level-headed stance.

Yup, a team that barely missed the playoffs in the West without the reigning MVP. 

 

[IATT]

 

 
im going to assume this is trolling

who did they trade to get Waiters?  A first rounder that will likely be 25-30 range.  What a horrible trade.  I wish they would bring in some talent.

nothing yet.. the pick was top 18 protected this year

 

[jpzx]

Missed the playoffs with an MVP candidate*