I never said he used steroids. I said hgh, and i said 'if he actually used'. You said greats dont decline much at 30...but that only factors logically if all else is held constant. Meaning his body stays the same, his energy, hell he even changed his diet and his living arrangements. Things change. You can't base an athlete on the same accord of other before him unless it is a level playing field. Everyone is different. I understand you want your hero to keep his cape on, but dude looks noticeably slower on the court, on defense, on offense. Relying more on that jumper than his speed and strength, which for the record was the main reason behind wanting to cut weight. So if he isn't running and bombarding players and jumping high...that jumper isnt going to fall every night. then you will see your decline. I say your logic is flawed because you are using skill/talent measures to defy the effects of age, and that is not possible. You are saying what others have done and used it to support LeBron's own capabilities. Makes no sense.