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The 2014-2015 NBA Season Thread. Lock It Up Please: The Golden State Warriors Are The Champions
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dacomeup
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Orlando needs to get a wing that can shoot for spacing purposes. I don' think that they can afford to pick WCS.
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Was it really that long? Wow
The Nuggets went 17-65 the year before Melo, 43-39 his rookie season
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You don't like Dipo and Tobias???
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Utah and Milwaukee play tonight. Fully expecting a defensive struggle.
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melo should've been co roy with lebron like grant n kidd were
i need the magic to trade moe harkless to the knicks for nothing
i need the magic to trade moe harkless to the knicks for nothing
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type of game basketball nerds would like to watch.
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how can you forget my dude D. ROSE 
edit: you also missed Al Horford
edit: you also missed Al Horford
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Probably the longest collective wingspan in a game between MCW/Giannis/Henson/Favors/Gobert/Exum.
Favors/Gobert going to dominate.
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Orlando either way should be good. Stanley, Winslow, WCS
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Good call on thosehow can you forget my dude D. ROSE
edit: you also missed Al Horford
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awwsome
, you have a PM.
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Yikes, at any one of the guys on the Magic.
Stanley would be :x.
Would be one of the most athletic and young teams in the league.
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Horford has never missed the playoffs
From back to back college titles to never missing the playoffs as a pro
From back to back college titles to never missing the playoffs as a pro
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damn just woke up to the news of Anthony Mason's passing.
RIP
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was about to start up an article about khris middleton but looks like someone beat me to the punch 
improvement month over month, third best WAR at the 2 around 7 and change, best DRPM at the 2, second best RPM at the 2, greek freak's war is around 2.5, 4.8 win shares to greek freak's 4.4, 7th best adjp48 .277 at the 2, tied 7th most wp 7.0 with klay at the 2. bucks have a really nice young core for sure
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ddleton-the-most-underrated-player-in-the-nba
improvement month over month, third best WAR at the 2 around 7 and change, best DRPM at the 2, second best RPM at the 2, greek freak's war is around 2.5, 4.8 win shares to greek freak's 4.4, 7th best adjp48 .277 at the 2, tied 7th most wp 7.0 with klay at the 2. bucks have a really nice young core for sure
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ddleton-the-most-underrated-player-in-the-nba
The Milwaukee Bucks are one of the NBA’s most pleasant surprises, and Khris Middleton, their startlingly efficient, unsurprisingly versatile two-way nightmare, is one of the biggest reasons why.
For all the deserved accolades players like Giannis Antetokounmpo, John Henson, Brandon Knight (before he was traded), Jared Dudley and Jabari Parker (before he tore his ACL) have received, Middleton's play has been just as vital for the Bucks.
Milwaukee is never better on both ends than when Middleton is on the floor, according to NBA.com. The team's net rating goes from plus-10.0 points per 100 possessions when Middleton is on the court to minus-4.9 points per 100 possessions when he sits on the bench—the equivalent of going from the second-best team in the league to 25th. Woof.
Pat Sullivan/Associated Press
Milwaukee’s offense melts when Middleton hits the pine, going from 104.9 points per 100 possessions to 98.7 points per 100 possessions. And the defense goes from 94.9 points per 100 possessions to 103.6 points per 100 possessions with Middleton on and off the court.
It's impossible to ignore these numbers, but we can’t solely lean on on/off numbers when measuring any one player’s influence (according to ESPN’s Real Plus-Minus stat, Middleton is the NBA’s sixth-best player). Still, this is still extremely impressive stuff and warrants closer examination. How is a third-year player who’s averaging fewer minutes than he did a year ago having an MVP-candidate-worthy impact on a playoff team?
Middleton was in and out of the starting lineup through the season’s first two months. Ever since a 10-point overtime win over the Charlotte Hornets on December 27, he’s started every single game. The Bucks were 16-16 that day and are now 30-23.
Sue Ogrocki/Associated Press
Since January 1, he’s averaging 14.0 points and 5.4 rebounds per game (in 31.7 minutes). And he’s staying efficient, shooting 52.6 percent from the floor and 45.3 percent from behind the three-point line.
How does he stay so effective? Middleton doesn't extend himself or attempt to burst through any offensive limitations. He's a self-aware basketball player. This is what he told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s Charles F. Gardner:
I've been shooting the ball well but it just comes from playing within the offense and letting my teammates find me. I’m not trying to be overly aggressive; I'm not trying to force things. I'm just playing my game, just being patient.
I was getting the same shots at the beginning of the season. They just weren't falling. Now they are falling. I just have to keep shooting with confidence.
You have to play your game in this league. If you miss 10 in a row, you have to believe the next 10 are going to fall for you. Confidence is a huge thing in this league.
Middleton is a serious catch-and-shoot-or-drive threat, per NBA.com. He sits in the 90th percentile here, with an effective field-goal percentage of 60.3. When a driving teammate throws it to him on the wing, Middleton attacks his defender—who must close out hard while trying to contest the jumper—without hesitation.
Furthermore, Middleton is one of the most effective post-up players in the league. His back-to-the-basket attack ranks in the 90th percentile, averaging 1.04 points per possession in a 49-possession sample size—very impressive.
Here he is abusing Nik Stauskas in a recent game against the Sacramento Kings. As soon as the rookie entered the game, Middleton immediately attacked him in the post.
On defense, Middleton is the ideal contemporary player. He's long, he's quick, and he can guard three or four positions. Bucks head coach Jason Kidd has taken advantage, unleashing Middleton in a switch-happy system that utilizes all he brings to the table.
In this particular play, he's a split-second slow switching from Stauskas to Ramon Sessions, but those long arms still help turn an open layup into a point-blank brick. (Jared Dudley certainly helps with a well-timed rotation from the weak side.) Middleton is adaptable and knows what he's supposed to do.
NBA.com
Middleton allows just 0.68 points per possession in isolation, which places him in the 82nd percentile. (Klay Thompson is in the 77th percentile.) And when defending pick-and-rolls, Middleton allows just 0.63 points per possession—good for the 88th percentile. Don't be surprised if his name pops up in Defensive Player of the Year conversations multiple times over the next five years. And don't blink if he makes an All-Defensive Team this season.
USA TODAY Sports
The 23-year-old forward is carving through his third season with a $915,000 price tag. Unfortunately for Milwaukee, Middleton is a restricted free agent this summer, and the market for his services will be through the roof. Is he getting a max contract? Let’s not go crazy.
But it’s entirely possible that some team extends an offer in the four-year, $40 million range—perhaps higher. The Bucks can match any contract offer he gets, but that doesn't mean several teams won't try to pry him away.
Middleton is underrated right now, but a lot of his offensive success is due to his specialized role. He isn't asked to put the ball on the floor against a set half-court defense, constantly create for teammates or run pick-and-rolls. There's no telling how his efficiency would be affected if more responsibilities were dropped on his plate.
But Middleton's defensive versatility isn't going anywhere. He's a good player today but has the potential to achieve so much more in the years ahead. If your favorite team somehow signs him this summer, smile about it.
For all the deserved accolades players like Giannis Antetokounmpo, John Henson, Brandon Knight (before he was traded), Jared Dudley and Jabari Parker (before he tore his ACL) have received, Middleton's play has been just as vital for the Bucks.
Milwaukee is never better on both ends than when Middleton is on the floor, according to NBA.com. The team's net rating goes from plus-10.0 points per 100 possessions when Middleton is on the court to minus-4.9 points per 100 possessions when he sits on the bench—the equivalent of going from the second-best team in the league to 25th. Woof.
Pat Sullivan/Associated Press
Milwaukee’s offense melts when Middleton hits the pine, going from 104.9 points per 100 possessions to 98.7 points per 100 possessions. And the defense goes from 94.9 points per 100 possessions to 103.6 points per 100 possessions with Middleton on and off the court.
It's impossible to ignore these numbers, but we can’t solely lean on on/off numbers when measuring any one player’s influence (according to ESPN’s Real Plus-Minus stat, Middleton is the NBA’s sixth-best player). Still, this is still extremely impressive stuff and warrants closer examination. How is a third-year player who’s averaging fewer minutes than he did a year ago having an MVP-candidate-worthy impact on a playoff team?
Middleton was in and out of the starting lineup through the season’s first two months. Ever since a 10-point overtime win over the Charlotte Hornets on December 27, he’s started every single game. The Bucks were 16-16 that day and are now 30-23.
Sue Ogrocki/Associated Press
Since January 1, he’s averaging 14.0 points and 5.4 rebounds per game (in 31.7 minutes). And he’s staying efficient, shooting 52.6 percent from the floor and 45.3 percent from behind the three-point line.
How does he stay so effective? Middleton doesn't extend himself or attempt to burst through any offensive limitations. He's a self-aware basketball player. This is what he told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel’s Charles F. Gardner:
I've been shooting the ball well but it just comes from playing within the offense and letting my teammates find me. I’m not trying to be overly aggressive; I'm not trying to force things. I'm just playing my game, just being patient.
I was getting the same shots at the beginning of the season. They just weren't falling. Now they are falling. I just have to keep shooting with confidence.
You have to play your game in this league. If you miss 10 in a row, you have to believe the next 10 are going to fall for you. Confidence is a huge thing in this league.
Middleton is a serious catch-and-shoot-or-drive threat, per NBA.com. He sits in the 90th percentile here, with an effective field-goal percentage of 60.3. When a driving teammate throws it to him on the wing, Middleton attacks his defender—who must close out hard while trying to contest the jumper—without hesitation.
Furthermore, Middleton is one of the most effective post-up players in the league. His back-to-the-basket attack ranks in the 90th percentile, averaging 1.04 points per possession in a 49-possession sample size—very impressive.
Here he is abusing Nik Stauskas in a recent game against the Sacramento Kings. As soon as the rookie entered the game, Middleton immediately attacked him in the post.
On defense, Middleton is the ideal contemporary player. He's long, he's quick, and he can guard three or four positions. Bucks head coach Jason Kidd has taken advantage, unleashing Middleton in a switch-happy system that utilizes all he brings to the table.
In this particular play, he's a split-second slow switching from Stauskas to Ramon Sessions, but those long arms still help turn an open layup into a point-blank brick. (Jared Dudley certainly helps with a well-timed rotation from the weak side.) Middleton is adaptable and knows what he's supposed to do.
NBA.com
Middleton allows just 0.68 points per possession in isolation, which places him in the 82nd percentile. (Klay Thompson is in the 77th percentile.) And when defending pick-and-rolls, Middleton allows just 0.63 points per possession—good for the 88th percentile. Don't be surprised if his name pops up in Defensive Player of the Year conversations multiple times over the next five years. And don't blink if he makes an All-Defensive Team this season.
USA TODAY Sports
The 23-year-old forward is carving through his third season with a $915,000 price tag. Unfortunately for Milwaukee, Middleton is a restricted free agent this summer, and the market for his services will be through the roof. Is he getting a max contract? Let’s not go crazy.
But it’s entirely possible that some team extends an offer in the four-year, $40 million range—perhaps higher. The Bucks can match any contract offer he gets, but that doesn't mean several teams won't try to pry him away.
Middleton is underrated right now, but a lot of his offensive success is due to his specialized role. He isn't asked to put the ball on the floor against a set half-court defense, constantly create for teammates or run pick-and-rolls. There's no telling how his efficiency would be affected if more responsibilities were dropped on his plate.
But Middleton's defensive versatility isn't going anywhere. He's a good player today but has the potential to achieve so much more in the years ahead. If your favorite team somehow signs him this summer, smile about it.
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Now that I think about it that early 90's Knicks was prolly my favorite time in basketball. That team should've won a chip. They were stacked.
Pat
Oak
Mas
Charles Smith
Derek Harper
Huber Davis
Starks
Then Orlando was just coming together with
Shaq
Dennis Scott
Royal
Penny
Nick
Indy was stacked, bulls, hornets,
Damn man RIP mase
and that era of ball.
Early and mid 90's > any era of basketball
Pat
Oak
Mas
Charles Smith
Derek Harper
Huber Davis
Starks
Then Orlando was just coming together with
Shaq
Dennis Scott
Royal
Penny
Nick
Indy was stacked, bulls, hornets,
Damn man RIP mase
and that era of ball. Early and mid 90's > any era of basketball
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i wouldnt call them stacked, defensively yeah probably, but offensively they really weren't anything crazy. that 99 team is my all time favorite knicks team and if ewing or LJ were healthy, that spurs series would've been a lot closer.
keel252
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Yea man the way they played was beautiful. In your face and what you gone do about it?
When Knicks and Pacers played. My god. Getting teary eyed just thinking bout it.
Pretty sure that's the era Knicks fan base was at it's highest.
When Knicks and Pacers played. My god. Getting teary eyed just thinking bout it.
Pretty sure that's the era Knicks fan base was at it's highest.
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love that squad man
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Did anyone post the Vine of Shaved on the Knicks last night
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Co-sign one of my favorite Knicks teams growing up not like the garbage we got now
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