The 2014-2015 NBA Season Thread. Lock It Up Please: The Golden State Warriors Are The Champions

[bowb4me]

So what if CP3 never goes to the conference finals is he still considered one of the best of all time?

Yeah but it'll hurt him in my eyes when the topic of best PGs comes up. His assist and other statistics will warrant his all time great status. Not making a conference Finals isn't everything but it's def a negative IMO.

 

[shoeking2101]

So what if CP3 never goes to the conference finals is he still considered one of the best of all time?

Easily.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I've read on this site that teams that have smaller PGs as their best player can't win a championship. So why should CP get slandered for not doing something that is apparently impossible to do anyway?

Exactly, I don't why anyone has the Warriors as a championship contender can't win with a pg as your best scorer.

 

[a-friend]

Had to skip from page 902 to this one to see if CP was still being discussed.  

 

[AEA18]

grizz would bury waiters on the bench bruh. no way he fits in their system. They're one of those 1000 piece puzzles and he's a screw off the bottom of a hot wheels car.

 

[bhzmafia14]

Those All Star jerseys are absolute fire..

I'm trying to see if a spot in Memphis is willing to sell me their Penny Hardaway one.

*checks in at 9am CP3 talk*

*checks back at 11am CP3 talk*

*comes back from lunch CP3 talk*

 

[hood17]

You guys and your debates

I hope Waiters doesn't end up on Memphis.

 

[coldcity]

hold on i missed it ..waiters to memphis for who? TA?

 

[lawdog1]

hold on i missed it ..waiters to memphis for who? TA?

T Prince and Koufous, I think.

Do it, Memphis.

 

[coldcity]

hold on i missed it ..waiters to memphis for who? TA?

T Prince and Koufous, I think.

Do it, Memphis.

tay tay & KK nah mem needs to keep kk

 

[awwsome]

Wouldn't want Waiters.

 

[coldcity]

Wouldn't want Waiters.

wouldnt go that far.....

 

[bowb4me]

tay tay & KK nah mem needs to keep kk

KK just had 20 and 12 in 24 mins off the bench. Bad move for Mem.

 

[8pm at msg]

Personally I have always felt that John Stockton is overrated and there are several PGs I would pick over him if I were to build a team.

But that's just me though....

 

[bhzmafia14]

KK just had 20 and 12 in 24 mins off the bench. Bad move for Mem.

No he didn't

That was Jon Leuer.

Koufos in the playoffs is not that useful. The only benefit to keeping Koufos right now is if Marc gets hurt and even if Marc goes down, Koufos won't be the reason we stay afloat if we do. The question isn't whether to trade Koufos or not, its whether to trade him for Waiters. Memphis needs more scoring on the perimeter, but not necessarily what Waiters provides inefficiently.

The initial trade would be Koufos for Waiters straight up. I don't think Prince would be involved. But, I would prefer a 3 way deal with Denver that brings Wilson Chandler and Darrell Arthur back to Memphis in exchange for Koufos and Prince. If not, I would like to offer Koufos to Atlanta for Demarre Carroll.

Memphis lose too many players due to free agency in the offseason when they know for a fact they are not keeping them long term. (OJ, Ed Davis, etc). I would like to move Koufos before the deadline before we lose him in the offseason for nothing as well.

 

[victor page]

tay tay & KK nah

 

[senorroboto2k5]

Memphis is doing too well to try and experiment with Dion Waiters of all people.

He might fix a need if he works out. But he's probably gonna get to Memphis thinking thank god for this opportunity to be a franchise player and I ain't coming off the bench.

 

[bhzmafia14]

The scary thing is that Waiters is a Hollinger guy. I think he rated Waiters #4 on his draft rater. So, I'm sure he sees a role for him in Memphis.

Yep, he was ranked #4. Here is his 2012 draft rater.

Spoiler

1. Anthony Davis

2. Thomas Robinson
3. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
4. Dion Waiters
5. Andre Drummond
6. Quincy Miller
7. Jared Sullinger
8. Terrence Jones
9. John Henson
10. Royce White
11. Bradley Beal
12. Harrison Barnes
13. Tony Wroten
14. Kendall Marshall
15. Marquis Teague
16. Draymond Green
17. Jeremy Lamb
18. Damian Lillard
19. Austin Rivers
20. Doron Lamb
21. Furkan Aldemir
22. Will Barton
23. Tyler Zeller
24. Evan Fournier
25. Tyshawn Taylor
26. Meyers Leonard
27. Terrence Ross
28. Perry Jones
29. Festus Ezeli
30. Fab Melo
31. Kostas Sloukas
32. Henry Sims
33. Terrell Stoglin
34. Kostas Papanikolaou
35. Moe Harkless
36. Leon Radosevic
37. JaMychal Green
38. Andrew Nicholson
39. Drew Gordon
40. Garrett Stutz
41. Robert Sacre
42. Arnett Moultrie
43. Elias Harris
44. William Buford
45. Jae Crowder
46. Jared Cunningham
47. Jordan Taylor
48. John Jenkins
49. Orlando Johnson
50. Jeffrey Taylor
51. Quincy Acy
52. Maalik Wayns
53. Tornike Shengelia
54. Scott Machado
55. Mike Scott
56. J'Covan Brown
57. Reggie Hamilton
58. Khris Middleton
59. Tony Mitchell
60. Miles Plumlee

 

[bowb4me]

No he didn't

That was Jon Leuer.

Simple mistake.

 

[senorroboto2k5]

The scary thing is that Waiters is a Hollinger guy. I think he rated Waiters #4 on his draft rater. So, I'm sure he sees a role for him in Memphis.

Yep, he was ranked #4. Here is his 2012 draft rater.

I hope he's taken a look at Waiters since he's been in the league and adjusted accordingly

 

[bhzmafia14]

I know Waiters has not been great, but I also don't like to judge a player too early. There are a lot of variables to consider when looking at his production in Cleveland. He and Kyrie were a terrible fit from the jump and the fact that his role changed considerably when Lebron came on board his 3rd year. Not to mention the poor coaching in previous years. I'm not saying he would be great somewhere else, but I think a lot of those variables would factor in if Memphis was seriously considering him.

If Hollinger sees him as better value on a rookie contract compared to Koufos, it would not surprise me if they pulled the trigger. Its very risky, though. I never liked Waiters coming out of college, but I may end up having to cheer for him. :x

 

[do work son]

Word is Dwight might be out for an extended period of time. No real word on the status of Terrence jones and Kostas Papanikalou :x

 

[Arthur Shelby]

Waiters game was the same in HS & at Syracuse can't even put how he looked on the Cavs

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Word is Dwight might be out for an extended period of time. No real word on the status of Terrence jones and Kostas Papanikalou

Strange

There was a report from Yahoo, Marc Spears, that he had an intense workout Sunday. Random

Hope it isn't serious 

 

 

[senorroboto2k5]

I know Waiters has not been great, but I also don't like to judge a player too early. There are a lot of variables to consider when looking at his production in Cleveland. He and Kyrie were a terrible fit from the jump and the fact that his role changed considerably when Lebron came on board his 3rd year. Not to mention the poor coaching in previous years.

That's definitely true. But another variable is his attitude/mentality. Normally I don't really like to dive into players' heads like that, but with Waiters, he's been so transparent with it over the last few years it's hard not to