that Syrian Civil War is NO JOKE VOL. over 1300 dead after alleged Nerve gas attack

Seriously Obama, is winding down two wars that he didn’t start, he taken the Drone Program from CIA control and has given it to the defense department. In Syria the administration stayed out of direct intervention for nearly two years waited until after multiple uses of chemical weapon and is only now purposing a limited strike with no US ground forces committed.

You use biased sources (infowars derived articles), and incorrect information, in an attempt to prove that the US orchestrated a chemical attack by using rebel forces to launch an attack on their own people so that the US could intervene in a war that it wants no part in.

You use an avy of a known US traitor that just makes you more credible to the misinformed and ill guided. Yes this is Nike Talk, base information on conspiracy and bias reporting over actual fact it just sensationalizes posts to the uninformed who believe in conspiracies that are drawn from illogical conclusions and misrepresented information.  

You have to be trolling.
 
This dude just said that Israel is anticipating a US strike and are on high alert already. :smh:
 

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Obama Will Not Get Away With a Syria Strike On My Watch


In 1971, Secretary of State John Kerry famously questioned: “How can you ask a man to be the last one to die for a mistake?” I would ask Secretary Kerry how can you ask a man to be the first one to die for a mistake? That is what he would be doing if the U.S. intervened in the Syrian civil war.

While the death and destruction stemming from the Syrian civil war is difficult to watch, I believe the U.S. must exercise maximum restraint and uphold the constitutional requirement that grants Congress, not the president, the right to declare war. The president’s announcement that he will seek congressional approval before unilaterally going to war is a step in the right direction.

From a strategic standpoint, there are three questions that should always be asked and sufficiently answered before going to war: What is the U.S. national interest? What is the military objective? What is the exit strategy?

We should also be skeptical of the Islamic rebels that our nation would be fighting alongside. Our knowledge of the relationship with these rebels is murky at best. What reason do we have to believe that they have America’s best interest? The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend. On one side, we have Assad; on the other, we have Al-Qaeda. On one side we have Islamic jihadists; on the other, we have Christians. We have priests and civilians kidnapped and killed by Islamic rebels. It seems on all sides we have chaos and it is unclear if any side will, in the end, be a friend to the United States.

Those who seek military action have an obligation to publicly address these concerns before intervening in another Middle Eastern war. Shooting first and aiming later has not worked for us in the past, and it should not be our game plan now. I will not vote to send my sons, or your sons, daughters, brothers, sisters or friends to fight for a stalemate.

There are other consequences to be reaped if we make the wrong choice here. Has the Obama administration considered the retaliation from Syria or Iran that could occur on Israel, Jordan, Turkey and our other allies in the region? I don’t think those in favor of intervention realize how quickly this could spiral out of control.

Laws can be amended, repealed or replaced; lives can’t be.

Of course, the sight of civilian suffering and death is heart-wrenching. No one disputes that Assad is a vile dictator. However, we must be wary that in our rush to “do something” we do not make an already bad situation worse.

It was President Obama who called for Assad’s ouster before it was clear he could be ousted and who set a “red line” he didn’t think Assad would cross. Should his strategic blunder now subject the American people to another endless war?

Saving this administration’s "credibility" is not a good enough reason to go to war.

This week, I am going to get answers to these questions and then your representatives are expected to vote next week. I am encouraged that President Obama is fulfilling his constitutional obligation to seek authorization for any potential military action in Syria. This vote will serve as the most important decision any president or any senator must make, and it deserves vigorous debate. I will lead the fight against involving our military in a civil war in Syria. I hope this mistake can be prevented.
http://www.policymic.com/articles/62047/obama-will-not-get-away-with-a-syria-strike-on-my-watch
 
"This is what we get for training you on how to ask questions about military operations."

wow
 
"This is what we get for training you on how to ask questions about military operations."

wow

the look in her face afterwards. i have been tuned in for a while now and it seems like they are just repeating the same answers over and over again. they have no idea of what the outcome of this will be and how this wil affect the syrian civilian in the long run.

"we have planned on how to secure these chemical weapons with regional allies" - kerry. how is the us going to do this without boots on the ground. im guessing another nation is willing to put boots on the ground instead. (israel smdh)
 
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the look in her face afterwards. i have been tuned in for a while now and it seems like they are just repeating the same answers over and over again. they have no idea of what the outcome of this will be and how this wil affect the syrian civilian in the long run.

"we have planned on how to secure these chemical weapons with regional allies" - kerry. how is the us going to do this without boots on the ground. im guessing another nation is willing to put boots on the ground instead. (israel smdh)

they won't declassify the proof, so the public will never know the truth
 
 
the look in her face afterwards. i have been tuned in for a while now and it seems like they are just repeating the same answers over and over again. they have no idea of what the outcome of this will be and how this wil affect the syrian civilian in the long run.

"we have planned on how to secure these chemical weapons with regional allies" - kerry. how is the us going to do this without boots on the ground. im guessing another nation is willing to put boots on the ground instead. (israel smdh)
they won't declassify the proof, so the public will never know the truth
why would they declassify "proof" for an ongoing military operation?
 
why would they declassify "proof" for an ongoing military operation?

this is the crux of the countries issue. From nsa, libor, snowden, iraq, debt ceiling, now this.

The public is not happy about knowing they are intentionally being kept out the loop. especially when they are footing the bill.
 
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why would they declassify "proof" for an ongoing military operation?
this is the crux of the issue
my point.  It makes no sense to declassify stuff like that.  The general public has no need to know, and it would prove a serious detriment to OPSEC.  I'm sure everybody WANTS to know, but it would in no way aid our military, our leaders, or Syria to declassify those documents
 
my point.  It makes no sense to declassify stuff like that.  The general public has no need to know, and it would prove a serious detriment to OPSEC.  I'm sure everybody WANTS to know, but it would in no way aid our military, our leaders, or Syria to declassify those documents

That is a very one dimensional response and it will not satisfy the people.

Operation Security has nothing to do with providing evidence of humanitarian crisis.

As I stated earlier in this thread, this could have easily been done with the Vice documentary on Syria. Honestly the FSA leader had more control and chose to only show one side. Anybody skilled in diplomacy and international conflicts knows how important evidence i. And the lack thereof smells too much like what happened in Iraq. Why is it, the burden of proof is admissible in this instance?
 
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my point.  It makes no sense to declassify stuff like that.  The general public has no need to know, and it would prove a serious detriment to OPSEC.  I'm sure everybody WANTS to know, but it would in no way aid our military, our leaders, or Syria to declassify those documents
That is a very one dimensional response and it will not satisfy the people.
One dimensional?  I dont see how, maybe it doesnt satisfy you, but its reality.  It is a fact that OPSEC (operational security for the layman) is the most important aspect of the military.  How would our military work if everybody knew what we were going to do before we did it?  If everybody was free to share information about military operations, troop movements, deployment/op tempos ect?

And believe me, SOCOM and the CIA's Clandestine Op's division does FAR more than we know about or is reported on CSPAN.

Basically, and I'm sure you know this, alot of this stuff is "need to know", and I can't think of any good reason why anybody on NT would "need to know"
 
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"I have the transcripts right here that-"

General - "No I did not say that"

"But I have the tran-"

"No I didn't"


Comedy. Cannot trust a single word.
 
So John Kerry says, if we don't attack Syria, we will def. see more extremism.

I'm willing to bet if we do attack Syria, you'll see MORE extremism throughout the Arab countries & the World will be less safer than it is today.

And people wonder why the Middle East hates us?...smh

We've been raping Arab countries for resources (Oil) and killing their people for 60+ years.

The whole world, along with the American people are saying NO.

But its VERY clear, Obama and his administration have their minds made up already.

This has been the plan all along. After Syria, Iran will be next. Basically the only countries in the Middle East who don't have a strong US influence.
 
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Why would the the intelligence community, give away our abilities in HUMINT and SIGINT to reveal our capabilities, better we keep the conspiracists and our enemies guessing. No need to appease folks like Alex Jones, the ill informed will always be swayed by sensation rather than do their own investigative research.  
 
One dimensional?  I dont see how, maybe it doesnt satisfy you, but its reality.  It is a fact that OPSEC (operational security for the layman) is the most important aspect of the military.  How would our military work if everybody knew what we were going to do before we did it?  If everybody was free to share information about military operations, troop movements, deployment/op tempos ect?

And believe me, SOCOM and the CIA's Clandestine Op's division does FAR more than we know about or is reported on CSPAN.


Basically, and I'm sure you know this, alot of this stuff is "need to know", and I can't think of any good reason why anybody on NT would "need to know"

plausible deniability

if you receive any intel via classified technology or techniques, everything attached to that can be considered classified. And this process can be abused.

No branch of this government was designed perfect and blameless. As a matter of fact, the branches were create with inherent flaws so that a system of check and balance can keep order.

What this is doing is circumventing this process of transparency with double speak and military nomenclature. We are learning more and more each day how long our constitution has been broken.

These are not personal opinions but facts. And the public don't care whats on an need to know basis if leaked material is travelling around the world faster tan propaganda.
 
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