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Teen Looking For Help Following Car Accident Shot Dead After Ringing Doorbell vol. Renisha McBride
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Rip poor girl racism is a disgusting thing in this day and age
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[h1]Renisha McBride: another racially charged shooting, same sad response[/h1]
Renisha McBride's death is still under investigation in Michigan, but we're already seeing the mistrust with the case
Protestors at a rally for Trayvon Martin. Photograph: Julie Fletcher/AP
It's early still.
It's been little more than a week, and the police are still investigating. So right now, it's still too early to really know why – or how – Renisha McBride ended up dead on a porch in the middle of the night in Dearborn Park, Michigan. Reports differ: she was shot in the back of her head. No, she was shot in the face. Her body was dumped somewhere. No, she was found right there, right where she was shot. The gun went off accidentally. No, it was a "justified shooting" – the homeowner feared for his life.
So many questions, only one answer: a young woman – a girl really – went looking for help and ended up dead.
There are things we know for sure. Renisha McBride was 19. She was black. She was unarmed. Her shooter, who has not been identified because he has not been charged, was white. He was armed with a 12-gauge shotgun. She had the misfortune to crash her car in the wee hours in a predominantly white Detroit suburb. Police say the car accident happened around 1:30am. So, armed only with a dead cell phone, Renisha apparently sought help – and ended up knocking on the wrong door some two hours later.
What was she doing during those two hours? Was she hurt, and wandering around in a daze, as her family's lawyer attests? Was it a case of "self-defense gone wrong"? Why didn't the shooter call 911? Why did he open the door?
Why did he shoot?
It's early still.
But it's not too early for the country to react on cue, following the same sad script. On the one side, you have protesters bearing signs that read, "We Demand Justice: Renisha McBride". On the other hand, on the internet, commenters quote Detroit crime statistics, creating an equation where Detroit equals black and scary, and one young woman's life doesn't count for much.
Renisha's shooting triggers memories of other cases – recent cases – of racial profiling run amok. Cases where the victim was black and the shooter wasn't, where the shooter claimed to be fearing for their life and so, naturally, was justified in pulling the trigger. Cases like Trayvon Martin. Or cases like the shooting of Jonathan Ferrell, 24, a former college football player who in September was gunned down by police in Charlotte, North Carolina. He, too, had just been in a car accident and was running toward police, looking for help. He was unarmed. Officer Randall Kerrick shot him 10 times. Ferrell was African American; Kerrick, who was charged with voluntary manslaughter, is white.
These shootings rip open scabs that have yet to heal, wounds that are centuries in the making, thanks to America's crazy racial history. Slavery shapes us still. Watch a film like 12 Years a Slave, and you realize that despite how much things have changed, we're still a nation staggering about, suffering from post-slavery PTSD. Whatever the side we're standing on, we mistrust. Boy, do we ever mistrust.
When news of Renisha McBride broke, my college friend, Tsan Merritt-Poree Abrahamson, posted a little missive on Facebook:
It's exhausting.
Renisha McBride's death is still under investigation in Michigan, but we're already seeing the mistrust with the case
Protestors at a rally for Trayvon Martin. Photograph: Julie Fletcher/AP
It's early still.
It's been little more than a week, and the police are still investigating. So right now, it's still too early to really know why – or how – Renisha McBride ended up dead on a porch in the middle of the night in Dearborn Park, Michigan. Reports differ: she was shot in the back of her head. No, she was shot in the face. Her body was dumped somewhere. No, she was found right there, right where she was shot. The gun went off accidentally. No, it was a "justified shooting" – the homeowner feared for his life.
So many questions, only one answer: a young woman – a girl really – went looking for help and ended up dead.
There are things we know for sure. Renisha McBride was 19. She was black. She was unarmed. Her shooter, who has not been identified because he has not been charged, was white. He was armed with a 12-gauge shotgun. She had the misfortune to crash her car in the wee hours in a predominantly white Detroit suburb. Police say the car accident happened around 1:30am. So, armed only with a dead cell phone, Renisha apparently sought help – and ended up knocking on the wrong door some two hours later.
What was she doing during those two hours? Was she hurt, and wandering around in a daze, as her family's lawyer attests? Was it a case of "self-defense gone wrong"? Why didn't the shooter call 911? Why did he open the door?
Why did he shoot?
It's early still.
But it's not too early for the country to react on cue, following the same sad script. On the one side, you have protesters bearing signs that read, "We Demand Justice: Renisha McBride". On the other hand, on the internet, commenters quote Detroit crime statistics, creating an equation where Detroit equals black and scary, and one young woman's life doesn't count for much.
Renisha's shooting triggers memories of other cases – recent cases – of racial profiling run amok. Cases where the victim was black and the shooter wasn't, where the shooter claimed to be fearing for their life and so, naturally, was justified in pulling the trigger. Cases like Trayvon Martin. Or cases like the shooting of Jonathan Ferrell, 24, a former college football player who in September was gunned down by police in Charlotte, North Carolina. He, too, had just been in a car accident and was running toward police, looking for help. He was unarmed. Officer Randall Kerrick shot him 10 times. Ferrell was African American; Kerrick, who was charged with voluntary manslaughter, is white.
These shootings rip open scabs that have yet to heal, wounds that are centuries in the making, thanks to America's crazy racial history. Slavery shapes us still. Watch a film like 12 Years a Slave, and you realize that despite how much things have changed, we're still a nation staggering about, suffering from post-slavery PTSD. Whatever the side we're standing on, we mistrust. Boy, do we ever mistrust.
When news of Renisha McBride broke, my college friend, Tsan Merritt-Poree Abrahamson, posted a little missive on Facebook:
We're imprisoned by misperceptions and all kinds of tribal animus.
It's exhausting.
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awaiting elaborative basis of conclusion as I google calcified pineal gland
btw you used two adverbs in the same sentence.
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Sad story. Yet another modern day lynching that some folks are somehow someway trying to excuse.
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Look the shooter already admitted it. He said it was an tragic accident his words his excuse regardless.
At the least that's involuntary manslaughter
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superb
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I'm in Detroit now.
The shooter was Arab/middle eastern not white
Autopsy came back. She was shoot from a long distance. It was not point blank
She was shoot in the face
She was found on the sidewalk
Now with the fact a presented the shooter had to be on his porch or in his house and the victim was on the sidewalk. Once u get shot in face with shotgun u drop down asap
The shooter was Arab/middle eastern not white
Autopsy came back. She was shoot from a long distance. It was not point blank
She was shoot in the face
She was found on the sidewalk
Now with the fact a presented the shooter had to be on his porch or in his house and the victim was on the sidewalk. Once u get shot in face with shotgun u drop down asap
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any relation to Danny McBride?
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Girl with no weapon is shot in the BACK of the head.
All I need to know.
I hate some of you.
All I need to know.
I hate some of you.
You shoot someone from long distance in the face by accident?
One hell of an accidental shot, dont ya think?
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I bet nothing happens to the shooter either
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Maybe she was selling him drugs? Or she was buying "weight" from him and they had a disagreement:
("I'll be back, watch" ...POW "no you won't" etc)
("I'll be back, watch" ...POW "no you won't" etc)
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createdestroy
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source?
ohmygosher
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Google, duh.
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createdestroy
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who are you?
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superb
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Heck yea I agree
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She was shot in the face, "from a great enough distance no gun powder residue or soot was found on her." She was 5'4.
911 calls audio have been published http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...ting-call?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE
911 calls audio have been published http://www.detroitnews.com/article/...ting-call?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE
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The fact that he shot her from long range is even more damning than if it were point blank.
No "stand your ground" b/s can be used.
This is the only think I keep picturing:
No "stand your ground" b/s can be used.
This is the only think I keep picturing:
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You have more estrogen than she does.
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Renisha McBride Accident Timeline, Dispatch Audio Reveal Some Details About Teen's Death (AUDIO)
The Huffington Post | By Kate Abbey-Lambertz
Posted: 11/12/2013 4:12 pm EST
In a contentious case where few details have been released, audio from a police dispatcher and a partial timeline of the hours before Renisha McBride's death give a slightly more detailed picture of the events that transpired that night.
The 19-year-old was reportedly in a car accident in Detroit in the early hours of Nov. 2. Her family believes she was trying to get help when she went to a home several blocks away in Dearborn Heights, where the homeowner allegedly shot and killed her.
The Detroit News obtained audio of the Dearborn Heights police dispatch, in which a dispatcher sends officers to the homeowner's house after he called to say he shot someone on his porch. Listen to the recording, which was edited by the News "to remove unrelated emergency communication and shortened to remove quiet periods":
On Tuesday, Detroit Police Department spokesman Sgt. Michael Woody clarified some of the details of an accident that happened the night of Nov. 2 to The Huffington Post. He did not confirm that the driver involved was McBride.
12:57 a.m. Detroit police receive an initial phone call that there was an auto accident with no injuries and the driver fled the scene. Because of those factors, the accident was determined to be a low priority call. According to the Detroit Free Press, a woman was speeding, hit a parked car, and then left on foot.
1:23 a.m. Another person calls 911 about the accident. The individual said the driver of the vehicle seemed to be intoxicated, though the dispatcher realized that an injury may have caused the apparent intoxication. The dispatcher ordered EMS units, but no units were available at that time.
1:37 a.m. A unit became available and was dispatched. It arrived three minutes later, and no one was at the scene.
1:52 a.m. An ambulance arrived.
2:50 a.m. Officers left the scene, after spending over an hour clearing the accident scene and investigating. No one returned to the scene within that time.
4:46 a.m. A Dearborn Heights dispatcher said she had just received a call from a homeowner who said he had shot someone on his porch, according to the Detroit News. Less than five minutes later, units were on the scene at the 16800 block of West Outer Drive, several blocks from the Detroit accident.
https://mapsengine.google.com/map/vi...zghaYu2uVso.en.
The location of an accident that may have involved Renisha McBride, 19, and the location of her shooting on Nov. 2.
In an autopsy report, the Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office ruled McBride's death a homicide and said she was shot in the face with a shotgun. The homeowner's lawyer told The Huffington Post that her client woke up that night hearing noises and thought someone was trying to get into his house.
Her family believes her phone was dead and she was trying to get help. No charges have been filed in the case, and the identity of the homeowner, a 54-year-old man who lives alone, has not been released.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...crime&ir=Crime
The Huffington Post | By Kate Abbey-Lambertz
Posted: 11/12/2013 4:12 pm EST
In a contentious case where few details have been released, audio from a police dispatcher and a partial timeline of the hours before Renisha McBride's death give a slightly more detailed picture of the events that transpired that night.
The 19-year-old was reportedly in a car accident in Detroit in the early hours of Nov. 2. Her family believes she was trying to get help when she went to a home several blocks away in Dearborn Heights, where the homeowner allegedly shot and killed her.
The Detroit News obtained audio of the Dearborn Heights police dispatch, in which a dispatcher sends officers to the homeowner's house after he called to say he shot someone on his porch. Listen to the recording, which was edited by the News "to remove unrelated emergency communication and shortened to remove quiet periods":
On Tuesday, Detroit Police Department spokesman Sgt. Michael Woody clarified some of the details of an accident that happened the night of Nov. 2 to The Huffington Post. He did not confirm that the driver involved was McBride.
12:57 a.m. Detroit police receive an initial phone call that there was an auto accident with no injuries and the driver fled the scene. Because of those factors, the accident was determined to be a low priority call. According to the Detroit Free Press, a woman was speeding, hit a parked car, and then left on foot.
1:23 a.m. Another person calls 911 about the accident. The individual said the driver of the vehicle seemed to be intoxicated, though the dispatcher realized that an injury may have caused the apparent intoxication. The dispatcher ordered EMS units, but no units were available at that time.
1:37 a.m. A unit became available and was dispatched. It arrived three minutes later, and no one was at the scene.
1:52 a.m. An ambulance arrived.
2:50 a.m. Officers left the scene, after spending over an hour clearing the accident scene and investigating. No one returned to the scene within that time.
4:46 a.m. A Dearborn Heights dispatcher said she had just received a call from a homeowner who said he had shot someone on his porch, according to the Detroit News. Less than five minutes later, units were on the scene at the 16800 block of West Outer Drive, several blocks from the Detroit accident.
https://mapsengine.google.com/map/vi...zghaYu2uVso.en.
The location of an accident that may have involved Renisha McBride, 19, and the location of her shooting on Nov. 2.
In an autopsy report, the Wayne County Medical Examiner's Office ruled McBride's death a homicide and said she was shot in the face with a shotgun. The homeowner's lawyer told The Huffington Post that her client woke up that night hearing noises and thought someone was trying to get into his house.
Her family believes her phone was dead and she was trying to get help. No charges have been filed in the case, and the identity of the homeowner, a 54-year-old man who lives alone, has not been released.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...crime&ir=Crime
