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I think ima end up passing on these, they looked really dope, but then I saw the actual shoe and the snake skin type leather all over the shoe and it made me not like it. I love the simple black/white colorway and the design, it goes great with everything, but the texture look that the snake skin gives it turned me off. Looks like I'll be trying to cop tbe Toro Bravo 4's, Varsity Red 4's, or both Bred and White Cement 89' Retro 1's since I've seen them for $115 shipped each if I pass on the Gamma Blue 11's but I'll have to see.