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there were a couple righty layupsOriginally Posted by 651akathePaul
^Damn 48 points left handed? Now THAT'S impressive.
Yeah it is. Defense is half the game homie. U cant be straight garbage defending and be elite. There is a reason for all da hate.Originally Posted by akm2tan
Ive been on NT for years now and Steve Nash has to be the most hated on nba player. Even with this thread people come in to discredit what he has done just to say that Kidd is better which is debatable. And since it is debatable you have one guy whose seen as garbage by the majority and the other that is a godsend to basketball. Nash is a great player. His ability to get 11 assists in practically 3 quarters of playing time is amazing. His FG Ft % is awesome and he can score. He can probably score at least 6 to 8 more points a game but instead prefers to pass and make plays. This is why he is good. I dont know why people hate so much, yes his defense sucks but is it really that bad for all the hate?
honestly, his defense really IS that bad. if he was at least just an average defender i dont think there would be as much hate, but Nash is literally one of the worst defenders to ever play in the NBA.Originally Posted by akm2tan
Ive been on NT for years now and Steve Nash has to be the most hated on nba player. Even with this thread people come in to discredit what he has done just to say that Kidd is better which is debatable. And since it is debatable you have one guy whose seen as garbage by the majority and the other that is a godsend to basketball. Nash is a great player. His ability to get 11 assists in practically 3 quarters of playing time is amazing. His FG Ft % is awesome and he can score. He can probably score at least 6 to 8 more points a game but instead prefers to pass and make plays. This is why he is good. I dont know why people hate so much, yes his defense sucks but is it really that bad for all the hate?
Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm
Shooting percentages don't mean anything when you're a point guard.Originally Posted by Anthony Stark
Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm
Let me know when he learns how to rebound and play defense like Jason Kidd.
Let me know when Kidd's shooting %'s aren't atrocious.
/threadOriginally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm
Let me know when he learns how to rebound and play defense like Jason Kidd.
There not in dantoni's 7 seconds or less system anymore dude, so what are you talking about? And yet his numbers are crazy good this year. Everyone says the system is the reason for his numbers. Can you say the same thing about triangle offense with kobe? No because kobe is a great player and nash is a great pg. And worst defender ever? Yet I believe he leads his team on most charges taken and that counts as defense. Its not like every point guard in the league drops crazy numbers when they play phoenix so what is your proof that he is the worst?Originally Posted by DT43
honestly, his defense really IS that bad. if he was at least just an average defender i dont think there would be as much hate, but Nash is literally one of the worst defenders to ever play in the NBA.Originally Posted by akm2tan
Ive been on NT for years now and Steve Nash has to be the most hated on nba player. Even with this thread people come in to discredit what he has done just to say that Kidd is better which is debatable. And since it is debatable you have one guy whose seen as garbage by the majority and the other that is a godsend to basketball. Nash is a great player. His ability to get 11 assists in practically 3 quarters of playing time is amazing. His FG Ft % is awesome and he can score. He can probably score at least 6 to 8 more points a game but instead prefers to pass and make plays. This is why he is good. I dont know why people hate so much, yes his defense sucks but is it really that bad for all the hate?
Nash is an extraordinary offensive player. but playing in D'Antoni's system for all these years has somewhat overblown his statistics in comparison to other PGs who have to do things on the court other than shoot and pass.
Originally Posted by Addict4Sneakers
The lengths people go to discredit Nash amazes me
Originally Posted by akm2tan
There not in dantoni's 7 seconds or less system anymore dude, so what are you talking about? And yet his numbers are crazy good this year. Everyone says the system is the reason for his numbers. Can you say the same thing about triangle offense with kobe? No because kobe is a great player and nash is a great pg. And worst defender ever? Yet I believe he leads his team on most charges taken and that counts as defense. Its not like every point guard in the league drops crazy numbers when they play phoenix so what is your proof that he is the worst?Originally Posted by DT43
honestly, his defense really IS that bad. if he was at least just an average defender i dont think there would be as much hate, but Nash is literally one of the worst defenders to ever play in the NBA.Originally Posted by akm2tan
Ive been on NT for years now and Steve Nash has to be the most hated on nba player. Even with this thread people come in to discredit what he has done just to say that Kidd is better which is debatable. And since it is debatable you have one guy whose seen as garbage by the majority and the other that is a godsend to basketball. Nash is a great player. His ability to get 11 assists in practically 3 quarters of playing time is amazing. His FG Ft % is awesome and he can score. He can probably score at least 6 to 8 more points a game but instead prefers to pass and make plays. This is why he is good. I dont know why people hate so much, yes his defense sucks but is it really that bad for all the hate?
Nash is an extraordinary offensive player. but playing in D'Antoni's system for all these years has somewhat overblown his statistics in comparison to other PGs who have to do things on the court other than shoot and pass.
I think he's overtaken Kidd for PG of our era
nope.
i'll give kidd the edge cause he played defense
What is your take overall? If you take into consideration what both have accomplished in their careers to this point, who do you think is the better guard? I can see your Nash > Kidd comment right now, (although I could still argue for Kidd) but I still think if you look at both careers as a whole Kidd >>>NashOriginally Posted by PharelFor3
Nash > kidd
at least now
5 years ago kidd >Nash
I never blamed him and I always thought it was a dumb thing to blame TMAC for.Originally Posted by 35KD
So now let's stop blaming T-mac for not making it past the 1st round.Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
Nash not ever making the finals is NOT his fault. I wish folks would stop throwing baseless statements out there as if it is ONE player's fault for his TEAM no succeeding. Not even a valid argument.
Originally Posted by Trelvis Tha Thrilla
What is your take overall? If you take into consideration what both have accomplished in their careers to this point, who do you think is the better guard? I can see your Nash > Kidd comment right now, (although I could still argue for Kidd) but I still think if you look at both careers as a whole Kidd >>>NashOriginally Posted by PharelFor3
Nash > kidd
at least now
5 years ago kidd >Nash