Stephen A. Smith Apologizes about Domestic Violence Views

[blastercombo]

Again

It's not extreme to automatically assume everyone is suppose to think provoke means a woman hitting you?

It is, but NOBODY said that. What's your point?

 

[Mark Antony]

So we teach our kids not to go out there and provoke anything to return a violent act, but we're offended by the same advice as adults?

They ain't hearin you fam. In this thread woman can do no wrong.

A chick getting the hands laid on her because she yelled and in someone's mind that = provocation? Nah sorry I don't hear that

Expand on the context of this yelling, I haven't been following this thread.

The whole problem with the verbiage he used is that he can be interpreted so many different ways. Saying you can't be surprised if someone hits you because you provoke them is the wrong thing to say. Who are we to determine what provoke means?

Because that's the only way someone is "provoked" right? You and the others bring up the worst case scenario to prove your point.

One yell and the girl gets knocked out

Every guy on earth is stronger than every girl

Domestic violence only happens to females



Your examples are extremes yet you argue other only use extremes.




This is real life

Saying yelling is provocative is extreme? Ok dude you got it

That sounds like your or others with similar views interpretation and problem though. In general, "don't provoke" is pretty straight forward and understandable, can't account for exceptions and extremes and make them the basis of the entire argument.

 

[heliumclinton]

Again

It's not extreme to automatically assume everyone is suppose to think provoke means a woman hitting you?

It is, but NOBODY said that. What's your point?

In general, "don't provoke" is pretty straight forward and understandable.

True

 

[keko jones]

The rape comparison made by Beadle and whoever brought it up in here is disgusting.

There are ZERO ways to provoke rape.

Provoke in the context of domestic abuse is up for interpretation and that's where Stephen A messed up.

Curious to know why is it disgusting? A woman can provoke a male to get sexually aroused the same a woman can provoke a man to be emotionally anger, the same way u know you shouldn't force a woman into sex because she got u hard is the same way u should know you shouldn't hit a woman because she made you angry.

 

[keko jones]

Who said provoke only means hitting? Quote that. Provoke doesn't mean solely one or the other yet for some reason in here you have to assume it's whatever best fits your argument and only that.

That's what im discussing or "arguing".




What are you arguing about?

LoL ... dude doesn't even know what he's arguing ....

the same way yelling is one side of provoking and hitting is the other side of provoking and a bunch of other meaning in between ... how is what SAS said not wrong and merit an apology?

please explain ...

 

[Mark Antony]

You guys are wasting your time on semantics.

 

[mr marcus]

No, you cannot provoke rape. I've had a chick tease me like hell one night and guess what? I went to sleep with blue balls

Dudes who rape women are filthy especially the ones who get them super drunk and take advantage of them when they're damn near passed out.

Don't see how yu can even get off on a half passed out chick....y'all ****** weird

 

[big van vader]

 

The rape comparison made by Beadle and whoever brought it up in here is disgusting.

There are ZERO ways to provoke rape.

Provoke in the context of domestic abuse is up for interpretation and that's where Stephen A messed up.

Curious to know why is it disgusting? A woman can provoke a male to get sexually aroused the same a woman can provoke a man to be emotionally anger, the same way u know you shouldn't force a woman into sex because she got u hard is the same way u should know you shouldn't hit a woman because she made you angry.

It's disgusting because like I said there are zero ways to provoke rape.

A woman hitting a man can provoke him to hit her back.

 

[cedric ceballos]

No, you cannot provoke rape. I've had a chick tease me like hell one night and guess what? I went to sleep with blue balls

Dudes who rape women are filthy especially the ones who get them super drunk and take advantage of them when they're damn near passed out.

Don't see how yu can even get off on a half passed out chick....y'all ****** weird

Agreed on that last part. Met a girl at a party a while back. She was beyond wasted but was throwing the buns at me. I could tell she wasn't in her right state of mind.

I exchanged numbers with her and told her if she's still with it when she's sober id take it down then.

She ended up passing out later that night from what I heard. I hit her up a few days later and she had no recollection of me or anything she did that night.

Felt glad as hell I didn't smash that knowing how she was that evening.

 

[PRIME]

The rape comparison made by Beadle and whoever brought it up in here is disgusting.

There are ZERO ways to provoke rape.

Provoke in the context of domestic abuse is up for interpretation and that's where Stephen A messed up.

Curious to know why is it disgusting? A woman can provoke a male to get sexually aroused the same a woman can provoke a man to be emotionally anger, the same way u know you shouldn't force a woman into sex because she got u hard is the same way u should know you shouldn't hit a woman because she made you angry.

The same way a child can provoke a pervert to get sexually aroused?


The **** ain't the same. And she was out of pocket making that reach of the century.

You supporting the reach doesn't make the case any less weak than it already was.

Rape and domestic violence are in no ways comparable outside of them both being wrong.

Should I compare my oversleeping this morning on my dreams provoking me to stay asleep? Can we compare that as well? My bed was just too comfy, b.

 

[deuce king]

The rape comparison made by Beadle and whoever brought it up in here is disgusting.

There are ZERO ways to provoke rape.

Provoke in the context of domestic abuse is up for interpretation and that's where Stephen A messed up.

Curious to know why is it disgusting? A woman can provoke a male to get sexually aroused the same a woman can provoke a man to be emotionally anger, the same way u know you shouldn't force a woman into sex because she got u hard is the same way u should know you shouldn't hit a woman because she made you angry.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you don't attempt to have a debate with feminists, especially male feminists. Just look at the statement above, they use irrational examples to try and win their argument. They are beyond idiotic and should be treated accordingly.

 

[PRIME]

Another thing with the stupid rape comparison is rape is PLANNED...

A rapist see's a victim, and forcefully takes advantage with intentions of doing so before hand.

A man hitting a woman back is a REACTION.

Put that **** to rest.

 

[heliumclinton]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you don't attempt to have a debate with feminists, especially male feminists.

Ladies and gentlemen this is why you can not have a two sided argument because you're either a feminist or a masculinist, congrats champ.

 

[mgrand15]

Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you don't attempt to have a debate with feminists, especially male feminists. Just look at the statement above, they use irrational examples to try and win their argument. They are beyond idiotic and should be treated accordingly.

You do know the definition of a feminist is believing in equal rights for men and women right? EQUAL.

If you don't believe in that, you're honestly trash. Tell your mother that she doesn't deserve the same rights as you.

 

[Lovetohate3000]

Bruno mars fans.....

 

[keko jones]

The same way a child can provoke a pervert to get sexually aroused?


The **** ain't the same. And she was out of pocket making that reach of the century.

You supporting the reach doesn't make the case any less weak than it already was.

Rape and domestic violence are in no ways comparable outside of them both being wrong.

Should I compare my oversleeping this morning on my dreams provoking me to stay asleep? Can we compare that as well? My bed was just too comfy, b.

Exactly my  point .... when he stated woman stop provoking your man that's just such a blank statement that people took issue ... yes a woman hitting a man is an extreme and that's a no .... but what do you say to those woman that are in abusive relationships that are constantly told .... you asked for it you provoke me? the same way a woman cant provoke a man into rape or a child cant provoke a perv into molestation, there are woman out there that really have no fault but being with an abusive man that constantly tells her that she provoke the beating ... is not hard to understand ....

Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you don't attempt to have a debate with feminists, especially male feminists. Just look at the statement above, they use irrational examples to try and win their argument. They are beyond idiotic and should be treated accordingly.

I can't with you - at least others that are going against what I believe are trying to debate their point you in the other hand aren't capable of such things ...

Another thing with the stupid rape comparison is rape is PLANNED...

A rapist see's a victim, and forcefully takes advantage with intentions of doing so before hand.

A man hitting a woman back is a REACTION.

Put that **** to rest.

not always ... if you think rape comes from unknowing attackers and individuals you are partially right - a lot of rape occurred by people they know and are close to .... you came over you told me about your problems you kissed me you turned me on you grabbed my **** you took it out but then you want to say no? I don't think so .... that's how a lot of these cases go ..... but still is inexcusable ....

 
It's disgusting because like I said there are zero ways to provoke rape.

A woman hitting a man can provoke him to hit her back.

but hitting is not the only time MEN claim a woman provoked them .. there are crazy people out there that say you talking provoked me .... come on .... the same way people out there that are crazy and say she dress like a **** and she provoked my hard on ...... you are looking it at it from your point of view not from these pervs or sick people .....

 

[KMante]

 

Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you don't attempt to have a debate with feminists, especially male feminists. Just look at the statement above, they use irrational examples to try and win their argument. They are beyond idiotic and should be treated accordingly.

You do know the definition of a feminist is believing in equal rights for men and women right? EQUAL.

If you don't believe in that, you're honestly trash. Tell your mother that she doesn't deserve the same rights as you.

The crazy part is, I don't think many people know this.

And be careful with that example with their mother. They will say it's #ntextremes 

Oh NOW yall think Beadle does things for attention huh? 

 

 

[deuce king]

  

Ladies and gentlemen, this is why you don't attempt to have a debate with feminists, especially male feminists. Just look at the statement above, they use irrational examples to try and win their argument. They are beyond idiotic and should be treated accordingly.

I can't with you - at least others that are going against what I believe are trying to debate their point you in the other hand aren't capable of such things ...

You basically said a woman can "provoke" a man to rape her because he got sexually aroused.  Trust and believe that no one is taking you seriously after such a comment.  There's no need for anyone to try and debate with you. 

 

[DCAllAfrican]

You do know the definition of a feminist is believing in equal rights for men and women right? EQUAL.

Is this across the board though?

Because I don't think anyone is TRULY feminist. Meaning everything is equal and straight down the line.

 

[big van vader]

Originally Posted by Keko Jones  

Quote:

 
It's disgusting because like I said there are zero ways to provoke rape.

A woman hitting a man can provoke him to hit her back.

but hitting is not the only time MEN claim a woman provoked them .. there are crazy people out there that say you talking provoked me .... come on .... the same way people out there that are crazy and say she dress like a **** and she provoked my hard on ...... you are looking it at it from your point of view not from these pervs or sick people .....

You're asking me to empathize with the views of a sociopath.  You, yourself, called them crazy and sick.

Provoke is a general word. 

In the context of domestic violence, it ranges from "she talked too much" to "she came at me with a knife". 

"She talked too much" should not provoke a violent reaction.  "She came at me with a knife" would.

In the context of rape, there is no range.  There is nothing that provokes rape.  Anyone who says otherwise is a sociopath.

 

[heliumclinton]

Champ is using feminist as a insult, like wanting rights for a woman is a bad thing.

Mind blown

 

[DCAllAfrican]

If any of yall's mothers got raped yall wouldn't be using the word provoked.

I can't side with the, "provoked rape" card.

I will say this though, women sometimes leave the house is clothes that they have NO business wearing in public but that is a different story. - The attire of prostitutes and regular girls (when going out) are SO blurred right now it isn't funny.

I do have boy that always says, "See that's how people get raped" whenever we see a woman dressed as though she is "working."

 

[mgrand15]

Is this across the board though?

Because I don't think anyone is TRULY feminist. Meaning everything is equal and straight down the line.

Equal rights. It's pretty simple.

Also, of course you don't think that, you're a pretty classic misogynist. A lot of your stuff comes across like you've been hurt by women a lot. Not taking shots but you of all people definitely wouldn't agree with this. Don't expect you to change your mind.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Equal rights. It's pretty simple.

Also, of course you don't think that, you're a pretty classic misogynist. A lot of your stuff comes across like you've been hurt by women a lot. Not taking shots but you of all people definitely wouldn't agree with this. Don't expect you to change your mind.

You missed my point.

Is it just for equal RIGHTS?

Does it deal with equal punishments for crimes committed?

If a woman "rapes" a man, should she serve as much time as a man that "rapes" a woman?

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I have no issue with women having the same rights as men. Not even sure how you came to the conclusion that I would have a problem with THAT.