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She hasn't been wrong, but her visions are wildly vague. There's a lot of space for misinterpretation.
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this is the first time me seeing this leaked... i didn't think they were going to do it.
What has she been wrong about thats shes personally been involved with. Show and book?
Everything is leading up to that so I'm not surprised
....and...???You do know she thinks Stannis The Puppet is Azor Ahai.
That still doesn't prove that shes a fake...Tdogg is having a conniption over the Red Women and her Puppet.
We're having two differ arguments. You're trying to prove Stannis is a great leader and I'm simply saying The Red Women prophecies aren't always accurate and sometimes misleading.
For example, in the books, she says that Arya will come to The Wall and it ends up being Jeyne Poole aka fake Arya.
Melisandre remains at the Wall when Stannis marches south to face the Boltons.[1] Her powers are much stronger at the Wall. She constantly searches her fires for visions. When she looks into the flames, she sees a “wooden face, corpse white” with a thousand red eyes, accompanied by a boy with a wolf’s face. She assumes that they are servants of the Great Other.[4] She asks to see Azor Ahai, hoping for Stannis, but sees only Jon Snow surrounded by skulls, his face changing between that of a man and that of a wolf. When she sees Jon, she also sees enemies surrounding him, and warns him of daggers in the dark.[16] She also tells him that she sees his sister, Arya Stark, as a girl in grey on a dying horse, fleeing from her marriage toward Castle Black.[17] She continually tries to warn him of these visions, but he refuses to listen. The vision of the girl on the horse comes to pass, but the girl is Alys Karstark, not Arya.
At the Wall Melisandre warned Jon Snow of daggers in the dark. [emoji]169[/emoji]FFG
When Mance Rayder is to be burned as a deserter, Melisandre places a glamour over him, making him appear as the wildling, Rattleshirt. Rattleshirt in turn was glamoured made to look like Mance, and killed in his place. She eventually reveals Rattleshirt’s true identity to Jon Snow, and sends him to Winterfell to rescue "Arya" (not knowing that it is actually Jeyne Poole) in an attempt to win his trust. She also predicts the deaths of three rangers of the Watch. When they are returned by the Weeper to the Wall as eye-less heads atop spears as she predicted, Jon Snow begins to take her visions more seriously, but is still wary of her.
Melisandre then tells Lord Snow that the wildlings will next attack at Eastwatch, as she has seen in the flames towers by the sea engulfed in a black and bloody tide. She acknowledges, however, that the towers of her vision did not look like those at Eastwatch. When Snow plans to send men to Hardhome on a rescue mission, she urges him not to, claiming it is a lost cause and that she has seen that none of the ships he sent there will return
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First let me state the obvious
Azor Ahai
Rhollor
The prince who was promised
are 3 different people.
She's not claiming for him to be a Rhollor (a god) or the PWWP.
Shes claiming him to be a LEADER who was resurrected in spirit.
1. which hasn't been disproved (yet)
2. which is still not out the frame of possibility.
Explain the shadow babies. if he had no power with in him.
Explain the false kings dying but stannis still being a live??
Yes a lot may be coincidence but nothing has disproved him to being that great leader
that can't really be argued against. Stannis lives after having the possiblity of dying 3 times now.
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We're having two differ arguments. You're trying to prove Stannis is a great leader and I'm simply saying The Red Women prophecies aren't always accurate and sometimes misleading.
For example, in the books, she says that Arya will come to The Wall and it ends up being Jeyne Poole aka fake Arya.
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I understand that, I'm just saying she might think she's right, but she's wrong.Again..... in her fires shes seeing and hearing visions we assume right. So if shes hearing arya in screams or word of mouth. And people think shes arya the. Damnit she sees arya in the fires.....shes never met the real arya stark so how can she 100% confirm.
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So one of my friends took a class on the books and show this semester. The professor stated that Loras wasn't confirmed to be gay in the books and gave them proof on why he isn't. Me an my friend have been arguing about this since then.
What do you guys think?
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Seriously though, where is this class? I want to take it!!
I remember somewhere in the books alludes that Melisandre's visions are vague and sometimes not accurate. Or maybe it was a quote from GRRM.