Bend_The_Knee
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- Apr 11, 2008
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Thank you sir, you always have great contributions. I will check this out tonight. I'm sure I can find the stream ut you can PM it to me if you have time.
Dope. Will definitely be checking brotha.
There is no evidence of ETs. We don’t see the magic at work behind every day phenomenon like simple things as plants. Flowers sprout from nowhere, leaves turn energy from the sun into apples, oranges and grapes, popping them out from wood. the process is slow nevertheless, it happens without our understanding it. ETs deliver incrementally. they don’t drive up in a stealth bomber and hand us the keys, they put ideas in many peoples heads spread over many years.
I've had experiences with ET's so I can understand where you're coming from since you haven't. But don't say theres nothing wrong with having a belief then call it "pretending". Thats kind of rude imo.
"So let me ask; What made us believe in the idea of Aliens or extra-terrestrials in the first place? Where did this belief come from?
Movies? Television? Books? Comics? Someone else's interpretation of artifacts or ancient texts?
Would you believe in them if you never heard about them before from any of the above outlets I named above?"
this confuses me because there are many things in life that are learned and taken from those that inspire us. Its not different than our parents teaching us about life even though we have not been through it yet. It's only until we mature that we realize they knew exactly what they were talking about the whole time. But as kids we are naive and we brush off their teachings. Humans are the same way, we are not there yet in terms of understanding. I've said this before but it holds very true.
The answers are here for the grabbing . The teacher gives us all the answers to the upcoming exam, quiz..whatever but only those who come prepared are the ones that pass.
this confuses me because there are many things in life that are learned and taken from those that inspire us. Its not different than our parents teaching us about life even though we have not been through it yet. It's only until we mature that we realize they knew exactly what they were talking about the whole time. But as kids we are naive and we brush off their teachings. Humans are the same way, we are not there yet in terms of understanding. I've said this before but it holds very true.
There is no evidence of ETs. We don’t see the magic at work behind every day phenomenon like simple things as plants. Flowers sprout from nowhere, leaves turn energy from the sun into apples, oranges and grapes, popping them out from wood. the process is slow nevertheless, it happens without our understanding it. ETs deliver incrementally. they don’t drive up in a stealth bomber and hand us the keys, they put ideas in many peoples heads spread over many years.
I've had experiences with ET's so I can understand where you're coming from since you haven't. But don't say theres nothing wrong with having a belief then call it "pretending". Thats kind of rude imo.
"So let me ask; What made us believe in the idea of Aliens or extra-terrestrials in the first place? Where did this belief come from?
Movies? Television? Books? Comics? Someone else's interpretation of artifacts or ancient texts?
Would you believe in them if you never heard about them before from any of the above outlets I named above?"
this confuses me because there are many things in life that are learned and taken from those that inspire us. Its not different than our parents teaching us about life even though we have not been through it yet. It's only until we mature that we realize they knew exactly what they were talking about the whole time. But as kids we are naive and we brush off their teachings. Humans are the same way, we are not there yet in terms of understanding. I've said this before but it holds very true.
The answers are here for the grabbing . The teacher gives us all the answers to the upcoming exam, quiz..whatever but only those who come prepared are the ones that pass.
Just came back from vacation in Kauai. Sorry for the late response.
This is why I rarely get into discussions about beliefs. People are attached to beliefs emotionally and once that attachment is established it becomes an extension of the person, resulting irrational debates and hurt feelings. I'm speaking of ET's, not YOU. Let's not bring emotions into this. Let's have an intelligent conversation.
Believing in something or someone you have never seen or experienced is the same exact thing as pretending.
be·lief/bəˈlēf/
noun
an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.
trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something.
pre·tend/prəˈtend/
verb
speak and act so as to make it appear that something is the case when in fact it is not.
lay claim to (a quality or title).
this confuses me because there are many things in life that are learned and taken from those that inspire us. Its not different than our parents teaching us about life even though we have not been through it yet. It's only until we mature that we realize they knew exactly what they were talking about the whole time. But as kids we are naive and we brush off their teachings. Humans are the same way, we are not there yet in terms of understanding. I've said this before but it holds very true.
You were confused by what I said, but you actually proved my point. When you were a child, did you come up with your belief in the Easter Bunny or Santa all on your own? Or did your parents tell you they existed? Did the media tell you they existed? Did Hollywood tell you they existed?
Is Thor real? Posiedon? If you were alive only a couple thousand years ago, you'd think Zues and Thor were real, without any proof. Reliant upon hearsay, idealogy and theory, but no proof.
This is exactly the same thing. Different century. Same story. Reality is relative and we are products of our place in space and time. This is no exception.
My only point was that there is absolutely no conclusive proof or evidence of the existence of Extra Terrerestials. Absolutely none. Therefore, anyone who says ET's exist is reliant upon belief.
If this isn't true, please tell me where's the proof of these incremental visits or knowledge?
Remember, we're specifically talking about this physical realm. Not beings in other realms and planes of existence.
Also, I understand that the physical universe is infinite, in theory. I understand that it is very possible that their could be ET's roaming the Universe (multi-verse). But these are probabilities and possibilities. Same as theories. Where's the proof?
Seems like more traps to me.
I dont necessarily agree or disagree but to say pretend and believe are synonymous is a little disingenuous. The key distinction between the definitions you posted is one is inherently false and the other is not. You go on to compare ET to santa and the Easter bunny. You are displaying the same bias and emotional preconceptions you talk about. You already believe they don't exist therefore equating them to figures whose existence violates the laws of physics is not a large leap for you. I don't mean to come down on you at all cause I love your posts but this is not sound reasoning.
the scientific method, or verifiable proof is hindered and it's utility limited by the ability to gather evidence and perform experiments. But for a scientist its always "true" or "false" and never "not smart enough".