So SneakGeekz cops from Air-Randy? Word?

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Originally Posted by donmega

Originally Posted by memphissfinest

ALL THE EARLY RELEASE SITES ARE SELLING "SUPER FAKES", "B-GRADES PASSED AS A-GRADE", WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. IMO, ANYTHING NOT AUTHORIZED BY NIKE IS FAKE SO FROM HERE ON OUT I'LL DROP THE "SUPER FAKE" TAG AND CALL THEM AS SUCH, FAKE.

I USED TO BUY EARLY ALL THE TIME. I MEAN FOR EVERY JORDAN OR HYPED RELEASE, I HAD A PAIR EARLY. I CAN PERSONALLY VOUCH THAT FROM THE FOLLOWING SITES I RECEIVED VERY QUESTIONABLE FAKE SHOES WHEN COMPARED TO RELEASE DAY PAIRS:

AIR RANDY
SLAMDUNKSPACE
VMVINC.
PROMO-SHOES
MARQUEESOLE
SNEAKERPOST (STILL IFFY ON THEM BECAUSE I'VE RECEIVED LEGIT AND QUESTIONABLE PAIRS BUT I WON'T BUY OR TAKE THE CHANCE WITH THEM AGAIN)

ALSO RECEIVED FAKE PAIRS FROM SOME NIKETALKERS WEBSITES BUT I WON'T PUT THEM ON BLAST. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THEY RECEIVE STOCK FROM THE ABOVE LISTED WEBSITES.

AS FAR AS SNEAKGEEKZ IS CONCERNED, I DON'T WATCH HIS VIDEOS ANYMORE. NO HATE, THEY JUST AREN'T VERY INFORMATIVE TO ME. I'M NOT THE ONE TO SIT AND WATCH SOMEONE BRAG ABOUT SOME SHOES. HE ISN'T GETTING SPECIAL TREATMENT THOUGH, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THE FEW VIDEOS I'VE WATCHED HIS SHOES HAVE THE SAME EARLY RELEASE FAKE FLAWS AS THE ONES EVERYONE WHO ORDERS FROM THESE SITES HAS (CLEAR TOES ANYONE
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REALLY THE ONLY PLACE TO GET SHOES FROM EARLY NOW A DAYS WITHOUT DOUBT OF AUTHENTICITY IS FROM YOUR LOCAL AUTHORIZED RETAILER SHOP IF YOU GOT THE CONNECT, FROM THE ONLINE UK SITES JUST BECAUSE THEY USUALLY HAVE AN EARLIER RELEASE DATE THAN US, OR IF YOU GOT THAT MEAN NIKE CORPORATE PLUG. EVEN STILL THIS IS USUALLY ONLY A WEEK TO A COUPLE OF WEEKS EARLY.

POINT BLANK IF YOU RECEIVED THEM MONTHS IN ADVANCE, THEY FAKE. NO WAY AROUND IT REALLY. SOME LEGIT PAIRS MAY LEAK AS THE SHOES ARE PRODUCED A COUPLE MONTHS IN ADVANCE BUT TO THE SCALE THAT WE SEE ALL THESE SITES SELLING THEM? HELL NO. FUNNY THING IS, THESE SITES ONLY EXIST BECAUSE A LOT DUDES (INCLUDING MYSELF BEFORE I WISED UP) HAVE THAT SAHARA THIRST TO COP EARLY. SOME SAY THEY COP EARLY TO AVOID LONG LINES, ETC. ON RELEASE DAY BUT THAT'S STILL NO REASON TO COP MONTHS EARLY. THE VAST MAJORITY COP EARLY FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE TO POST THEIR PICKUP IN SNEAKER SHOWCASE OR MAKE A "HUMBLE BRAG" VIDEO ON YOUTUBE FOR "E-PROPS".

PAYING MORE THAN RETAIL FOR FAKE SHOES? I'M OFF THAT.

IF DUDES LOST THE THIRST, THESE SITES WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS OR AT THE VERY LEAST WOULD SELL THEM FOR BELOW RETAIL AS THAT WOULD BE THEIR ONLY OPTION TO MOVE THE MERCHANDISE.

O TO THE DUDE THAT SAID FAKE FOAMS DON'T EXIST. THEY DO. THE EARLY RELEASE EGGPLANT FOAMS TO THE RELEASE DAY PAIRS
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I'M COOL ON EARLY RELEASES FROM NOW ON. YOU GUYS HAVE FUN PAYING RANDY'S LAMBO NOTE OR FOR JAY'S WEDDING.

O, AND AIR RANDY HAS SAMPLE/PROMO "45" CONCORDS FOR ALL THOSE INTERESTED
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most def sums it all up!



I think you can count SNEAKERPOST out of the line up. I've dealt with them from the Cool Grey 11's to the black cement 3's and I don't see any defects or B-grades in mine. They usually release 1 week before RD just like UPTEMPOAIR AND PICKYOURSHOES w/c I think are very, very legit sites. Here's the BC 3's I got from them as an example
 
Originally Posted by ninjahood

aha...i see da problem ya got with air-randy....son is poking holes at da mystique of air jordans....he's doing da equilvant of tearing down da wizard of OZ and showing ya how da sausages is made.


-Its to the point Air Randy has the shoe for sale before Nike/JB starts to actually promote them.
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they have no one to blame but themselves...that 3rd world labor practice biting em in da ++@
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You say all that but you forget to point out the fact that you've never bought from an early release website nor Air Randy. You know the deal, you just come from the school of thought "don't knock the next man's hustle"....

You don't even need to sweat it because you can easily hit Fulton ave or or any of your mom and pop spots that you know are legit to get yours . The rest of us (or even those like me who aren't in NY any more) have to rely on ISS or eBay at times (if FCNY, Rif, Napsize, Uptempoair etc don't have what we're looking for). That means we have to put our faith in resellers whom we don't really know where they got their stock from.

But w/e ninja, if that's how you see things dude then more power to you. But remember, even dudes who have over 1000 feedback on eBay can't be trusted nowadays (I'm not going to turn a blind eye to them at least). 

Lastly, while I agree that outsourcing is a problem and really a major reason why this is happening....It's really silly to look at Nike as any different than 90% of clothing/footwear manufacturers out there. Unless we're all drapped head to toe in Louie V, Prada, Gucci (though a lot of them do outsource to an extent, Ralph Lauren outsourcing the most) etc, then everything we have in our lives is being made in 3rd world nations.

So that argument doesn't hold any water whatsoever. It's biting all manufacturers in the fashion (and electronics) industry in the %$+ equally. However you're not seeing the same damage to the consumer that you're seeing in this case. We're all being affected by this even if we don't buy from early release websites, point is nowadays we don't really know and it's really just killing the entire legitimacy of the whole thing. 
 
As I mentioned before in another thread, its pretty irresponsible to lump ALL the sites you get your kicks early from IN together without knowing for sure.

Am I co-signing? No.

But some of the comments in this thread are made purely on assumption and not fact.

Has Air Randy done some shady stuff? Of course... but thats like saying one bad cop means they are all bad. (Well Most) But you get my point.


I also think its impossible to blame SG for anyone buying a fake sneaker or one assumed to be fake. He didnt hold guns to anyone's head and every purchase a person makes from the US or Asia is at the consumers risk.

How many folks have seen complaints on REGULAR kicks from a Nike Factory made shoe? I wont go on a long explanation like I did in the other thread, because I dont have pics to break up the words for the ADD folks lol...

But people take responsibility for your purchases... dont blame a dude who's making his own video's not forcing anyone to buy the shoe... thats like blaming that lil kid Stickie for buying kicks that dont look like the one's he does reviews for.
 
Originally Posted by NikeDealer

As I mentioned before in another thread, its pretty irresponsible to lump ALL the sites you get your kicks early from IN together without knowing for sure.

Am I co-signing? No.

But some of the comments in this thread are made purely on assumption and not fact.

Has Air Randy done some shady stuff? Of course... but thats like saying one bad cop means they are all bad. (Well Most) But you get my point.


I also think its impossible to blame SG for anyone buying a fake sneaker or one assumed to be fake. He didnt hold guns to anyone's head and every purchase a person makes from the US or Asia is at the consumers risk.

How many folks have seen complaints on REGULAR kicks from a Nike Factory made shoe? I wont go on a long explanation like I did in the other thread, because I dont have pics to break up the words for the ADD folks lol...

But people take responsibility for your purchases... dont blame a dude who's making his own video's not forcing anyone to buy the shoe... thats like blaming that lil kid Stickie for buying kicks that dont look like the one's he does reviews for.
You're doing a whole lot of talking and saying a whole lot of nothing. We actually have countless NTers (including myself) whom have previously bought from these sites and have firsthand knowledge of the goods that these sites have sent us. I myself have replaced all these early release pairs I've bought from these sites and I can clearly see the difference in quality between the fakes and the real pairs I have since bought. Even the boxes are different just like that youtube video evidenced...
Again, there are countless NTers who have been sent fakes from all the sites I have listed. If you're not ready to prove your argument (as I have mine) then you can keep it moving, you're just another one of these shady dudes that come in and defend these sites with your "connections" that you can't provide any info on. You sound like you're affiliated with one of these sites yourself so that speaks for your credibility. Until you can add some substance to your argument then you sir are the one making the assumptions here. 

One bad apple does spoil the bunch, if they're not all legit then we don't really know what's what? We're supposed to play russian roulette and just sit around and pray and speculate that the early release garbage website we just ordered from sends us a "good" pair. That's ridiculous...

Lastly, I know for SURE they all deal with the same "HQ fake, greymarket bootleg unauthorized BS" so kick rocks homie, I don't want to hear your rationalizations unless you bring us some palpable evidence. Otherwise you're making yourself look like some sort of damage control specialist, damage is done already. We don't need this crap floating around the market, it's ran its course. 
 
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by NikeDealer

As I mentioned before in another thread, its pretty irresponsible to lump ALL the sites you get your kicks early from IN together without knowing for sure.



Am I co-signing? No.



But some of the comments in this thread are made purely on assumption and not fact.



Has Air Randy done some shady stuff? Of course... but thats like saying one bad cop means they are all bad. (Well Most) But you get my point.





I also think its impossible to blame SG for anyone buying a fake sneaker or one assumed to be fake. He didnt hold guns to anyone's head and every purchase a person makes from the US or Asia is at the consumers risk.



How many folks have seen complaints on REGULAR kicks from a Nike Factory made shoe? I wont go on a long explanation like I did in the other thread, because I dont have pics to break up the words for the ADD folks lol...



But people take responsibility for your purchases... dont blame a dude who's making his own video's not forcing anyone to buy the shoe... thats like blaming that lil kid Stickie for buying kicks that dont look like the one's he does reviews for.
You're doing a whole lot of talking and saying a whole lot of nothing. We actually have countless NTers (including myself) whom have previously bought from these sites and have firsthand knowledge of the goods that these sites have sent us. I myself have replaced all these early release pairs I've bought from these sites and I can clearly see the difference in quality between the fakes and the real pairs I have since bought. Even the boxes are different just like that youtube video evidenced...
Again, there are countless NTers who have been sent fakes from all the sites I have listed. If you're not ready to prove your argument (as I have mine) then you can keep it moving, you're just another one of these shady dudes that come in and defend these sites with your "connections" that you can't provide any info on. You sound like you're affiliated with one of these sites yourself so that speaks for your credibility. Until you can add some substance to your argument then you sir are the one making the assumptions here. 

One bad apple does spoil the bunch, if they're not all legit then we don't really know what's what? We're supposed to play russian roulette and just sit around and pray and speculate that the early release garbage website we just ordered from sends us a "good" pair. That's ridiculous...

Lastly, I know for SURE they all deal with the same "HQ fake, greymarket bootleg unauthorized BS" so kick rocks homie, I don't want to hear your rationalizations unless you bring us some palpable evidence. Otherwise you're making yourself look like some sort of damage control specialist, damage is done already. We don't need this crap floating around the market, it's ran its course. 

Dude you sound SALTY as hell...Rock is just giving his OPINION...his comment doesn't really lean one way or the other....

BUT I'll tell you what DOES lean....that YOU and the rest of your generation (SG included) are sooooooo thirsty to have kicks early or be a YouTube sensation or catch little wood cause your in the mall with early kicks..that your ACTUALLY getting what you want...Now that comment may not make sense but consider this...YOU think some kid or Sneakgeekz for that matter really CARES about authenticity???? Of course not...they only care about the attention they get it...

To truly put it in perspective...tell me another industry where it's okay to "purchase" ABOVE retail a product but not from the manufacture or name sake???? Who buys a $400 Polo sweater for $600 from some dudes website and doesn't question how it got there in the first place???? I'll tell you who...the kid who wants to floss to all his friends how he got what they CAN'T get....

All you kids crying about fakes need to stop it...your all sheep...chasing the hype and next hype...You people can't appreciate kicks cause its always about having the next release before everyone else...true industry heads that truly get things EARLY youll never see nor know who they are...they have a love for kicks and that's it....before the internets blew up Chi NO ONE knew how connected or serious dude really is...

To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
 
Mr. Sneaker Heathen

You are so right.

You do what you think is right. I have absolutely no clue what the heck Im talking about.


Good luck to you. Let that sneaker knowledge take you places you've never been before.
 
Originally Posted by Ayipapi

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by NikeDealer

To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
I know you are looking out for him but you're just adding fuel to a flame.
I think NikeDealer is being nice and mature. I don't know what's his stand on this issue, but i think he doesn't want to support either side and want the people to calm down a bit.

and as for SneakerHeathen, he has just seen too many people siding with AR or the other early release sites and all he wants to do is to help people not make the same mistakes he has made in the past. So let's not attack/insult others and be nice to each other.

edit: and I still watch these youtube videos for fun while working out or sitting on the toilet, but the most recent sneakgeeks video is just 
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Guys, plenty of companies try to capitalize on every market for their own products by producing lesser quality items to appease everyone who would be buying early, later, fakes etc. Some people are defending/bashing Nike and other sellers like these people are holy and exempt from the games of capitalism. It's all about the money and nobody cares about consumers on a personal level. Buy more sneakers. /Rant
 
Originally Posted by johnjkim15

Originally Posted by Ayipapi

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
I know you are looking out for him but you're just adding fuel to a flame.
I think NikeDealer is being nice and mature. I don't know what's his stand on this issue, but i think he doesn't want to support either side and want the people to calm down a bit.

and as for SneakerHeathen, he has just seen too many people siding with AR or the other early release sites and all he wants to do is to help people not make the same mistakes he has made in the past. So let's not attack/insult others and be nice to each other.

edit: and I still watch these youtube videos for fun while working out or sitting on the toilet, but the most recent sneakgeeks video is just 
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. i can't believe he just asked a site to sponsor his project of redoing his sneaker room in his video

Thanks for trying to give my take my man.. I appreciate it.  
But to clarify I'll give my take.

Dudes like Heathen come at me thinking they know all there is to know about sneakers their construction the fake nation where kicks are produced and how the process of shoes being replicated happens.

I dont condone fakes..... at all. 

I dont condone the purchase of stolen property....BUT...

I dont condone people knocking another mans hustle and counting his money.

SG aint the man at fault.

Grouping EVERY Asian website for the actions of one or two is irresponsible.

Not every shoe site sells fakes.  People need to understand this and ask more questions.

Why didnt the dude who did the video cut up BOTH shoes and check the air bag from both?  If he had been buying shoes from VMVINC for years and thought they were real until "recently but claims to know everything about shoes there is to know...

Why NOW would he bring up the fact that THAT shoe was a shoe that smelled like cheap glue and NO others he purchased from the same spot?  Mr. Heathen.. I've been doin this for a LONG time. I have time in this.  So when you say alot without saying anything.. you make me chuckle my man.

When you learn more about the way stuff happens on both the Nike side AND the Variant side of things...let me know.. then we can have a discussion sir.  

Til then...good luck on your future purchases...but I say dont lump them all together...
 
Originally Posted by NikeDealer

Originally Posted by johnjkim15

Originally Posted by Ayipapi


To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
I know you are looking out for him but you're just adding fuel to a flame.
I think NikeDealer is being nice and mature. I don't know what's his stand on this issue, but i think he doesn't want to support either side and want the people to calm down a bit.

and as for SneakerHeathen, he has just seen too many people siding with AR or the other early release sites and all he wants to do is to help people not make the same mistakes he has made in the past. So let's not attack/insult others and be nice to each other.

edit: and I still watch these youtube videos for fun while working out or sitting on the toilet, but the most recent sneakgeeks video is just 
nerd.gif
. i can't believe he just asked a site to sponsor his project of redoing his sneaker room in his video

Dudes like Heathen come at me thinking they know all there is to know about sneakers their construction the fake nation where kicks are produced and how the process of shoes being replicated happens.

Why NOW would he bring up the fact that THAT shoe was a shoe that smelled like cheap glue and NO others he purchased from the same spot?  Mr. Heathen.. I've been doin this for a LONG time. I have time in this.  So when you say alot without saying anything.. you make me chuckle my man.

When you learn more about the way stuff happens on both the Nike side AND the Variant side of things...let me know.. then we can have a discussion sir.  

Til then...good luck on your future purchases...but I say dont lump them all together...

First of all, you don't know me. You don't know how long I've been collecting, my age or how much I know about these sneakers (which doesn't mean I know everything but I am knowledgeable). I've been buying Nikes since I was 15, I'm 25 now, and I do my homework before I buy things. However I like many others did buy from vmv and a litany of these other websites because we just wanted to get a pair before RD, and many of us have been scammed. A lot of us were under the impression that these sites were genuine and sold authorized Nike goods.
At the end of the day however you want to justify it or construe it, that's on you. I myself am going to voice my opinion and I will let others know the truth about the shoes these sites sell. They are illicit in nature, they are unauthorized and at the end of the day they're not real. I never bought fakes in my life before these sites popped up and I don't plan to ever buy from these sites ever again. However the fact is that these shoes are floating around all over the place, and at the end of the day my main concern is that these shoes will end up in the hands of reputable sellers on eBay, NT, ISS, or even consignment spots (unlikely with most consignment places, but you never know what might get through). These shoes are damaging the market and I don't want any of that crap.

Instead of being all mysterious about these things how about you be a little more forthcoming about some of this information you're trying to drop on us. You apparently are good with a couple of these websites, why don't you tell us what's really going on and who is and who isn't reliable? Why all this shadiness on so many people coming forth with this information? We the consumer have a right to know finally.
 
Originally Posted by Ayipapi

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by NikeDealer

As I mentioned before in another thread, its pretty irresponsible to lump ALL the sites you get your kicks early from IN together without knowing for sure.



Am I co-signing? No.



But some of the comments in this thread are made purely on assumption and not fact.



Has Air Randy done some shady stuff? Of course... but thats like saying one bad cop means they are all bad. (Well Most) But you get my point.





I also think its impossible to blame SG for anyone buying a fake sneaker or one assumed to be fake. He didnt hold guns to anyone's head and every purchase a person makes from the US or Asia is at the consumers risk.



How many folks have seen complaints on REGULAR kicks from a Nike Factory made shoe? I wont go on a long explanation like I did in the other thread, because I dont have pics to break up the words for the ADD folks lol...



But people take responsibility for your purchases... dont blame a dude who's making his own video's not forcing anyone to buy the shoe... thats like blaming that lil kid Stickie for buying kicks that dont look like the one's he does reviews for.
You're doing a whole lot of talking and saying a whole lot of nothing. We actually have countless NTers (including myself) whom have previously bought from these sites and have firsthand knowledge of the goods that these sites have sent us. I myself have replaced all these early release pairs I've bought from these sites and I can clearly see the difference in quality between the fakes and the real pairs I have since bought. Even the boxes are different just like that youtube video evidenced...
Again, there are countless NTers who have been sent fakes from all the sites I have listed. If you're not ready to prove your argument (as I have mine) then you can keep it moving, you're just another one of these shady dudes that come in and defend these sites with your "connections" that you can't provide any info on. You sound like you're affiliated with one of these sites yourself so that speaks for your credibility. Until you can add some substance to your argument then you sir are the one making the assumptions here. 

One bad apple does spoil the bunch, if they're not all legit then we don't really know what's what? We're supposed to play russian roulette and just sit around and pray and speculate that the early release garbage website we just ordered from sends us a "good" pair. That's ridiculous...

Lastly, I know for SURE they all deal with the same "HQ fake, greymarket bootleg unauthorized BS" so kick rocks homie, I don't want to hear your rationalizations unless you bring us some palpable evidence. Otherwise you're making yourself look like some sort of damage control specialist, damage is done already. We don't need this crap floating around the market, it's ran its course. 

Dude you sound SALTY as hell...Rock is just giving his OPINION...his comment doesn't really lean one way or the other....

BUT I'll tell you what DOES lean....that YOU and the rest of your generation (SG included) are sooooooo thirsty to have kicks early or be a YouTube sensation or catch little wood cause your in the mall with early kicks..that your ACTUALLY getting what you want...Now that comment may not make sense but consider this...YOU think some kid or Sneakgeekz for that matter really CARES about authenticity???? Of course not...they only care about the attention they get it...

To truly put it in perspective...tell me another industry where it's okay to "purchase" ABOVE retail a product but not from the manufacture or name sake???? Who buys a $400 Polo sweater for $600 from some dudes website and doesn't question how it got there in the first place???? I'll tell you who...the kid who wants to floss to all his friends how he got what they CAN'T get....

All you kids crying about fakes need to stop it...your all sheep...chasing the hype and next hype...You people can't appreciate kicks cause its always about having the next release before everyone else...true industry heads that truly get things EARLY youll never see nor know who they are...they have a love for kicks and that's it....before the internets blew up Chi NO ONE knew how connected or serious dude really is...

To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...

Okay I don't even know where to start with you dude. First of all hop off rockdeep's nuts, he can speak for himself. Secondly you don't know a damn thing about me. I don't go out of my way to floss for my friends (as most of my friends aren't into shoes in the first place), I don't buy every early release out there (I usually wait till RD, if I can't get them day of I usually buy from a consignment spot, ISS, eBay, uptempoair, etc), I've been doing this for 10 years now so this is really nothing new to me...And I CERTAINLY do not crave any e-fame nor do I want to be on youtube. I like being low-key, in fact the less people who know what I have the better. I don't need to get robbed when I'm out of state or simply just not at home, I don't crave the attention at all, hate it in fact.
So with that said, when I did buy from a couple of these spots, it was simply because at the time, these sites were supposedly legit. I usually get 2 pairs, therefore I felt like I could get one early and another one later on (on RD or afterwards). Has nothing to do with trying to impress anyone (I rarely have the time or the opportunity to wear any of my shoes nowadays anyways). I do it because I love each and every pair I buy. I don't buy every single hyped up BS release either. 

At the end of the day when I do buy something I want the product authorized by Nike (as most of us do). A lot of NTers still don't know that these early release sites sell unauthorized goods. Sorry for letting the cat out of the bag, I could care less about the next man's hustle. At the end of the day they're taking people's money, they don't give a damn, therefore why should I? If people want to continue to buy from these sites, cool, that's their prerogative. At least they now can make an informed purchase. 

Me? I just don't want any of these fakes some how trickling into legit venues. I myself know a dude who gets his stuff from a Nike rep, he sells nothing but Jordan and Nike basketball releases however, plus he doesn't have a lot of older stuff, that means I have to rely on eBay, consignment spots, etc to get other stuff and that requires me having to rely and put faith in others I don't necessarily know firsthand. 

If you know a Nike rep that can get you everything, old and new, from all of Nike's brands, kudos to you. I don't have access to it ALL, neither do 99% of consumers out there. Doesn't make you better than them because honestly you don't know who they are or what they have or how long they've been doing it.

A lot of characters coming out the woodworks, lol...
 
^Thanks for the mindless rumble you just put out...very informative

First..never on anyone's nuts...Rock's been around for a long time...I've been around for a long time...ALOT of times he and I agree...ALOT of times we disagree...the point to my response was that we can agree to disagree with out trying to insult each other...you response to Rock was personal to the point like you know homie...you don't know him...who are you to try and push him into a corner to try and defend himself....why cause you FEEL like you got ripped off EVERYONE has to choose between Team Jacob and Team Edward..your wack for the that...(I know I'm wack for knowing who team Jacob is...lol)

Again..I understand your point...your salty...it hurts...I get it...is that Rocks fault??? Is that my fault???

The point to my post is that don't feel salty cause you got what you wanted..Again the Internet got dudes twisted...in my time if some dude had joints for sale...early ....forget fake..they was stolen...period...now that could be the case here...who knows...but I dont give a damn what anyone says...there is a Footlocker within 5 to 10 miles radius of just about every human being on the planet (literally)...with the except of Quickstrikes (Yeezy's etcs) if you do some homework...ANYTHING is obtainable...I NEVER have...NEVER will buy from early release spots...

To put it in prospective..your gonna pay $300 for a sneaker that retails at $175...which footlocker only pays Nikes $50 to $60 to purchase and cost $25 to $30 to produce...so your literally paying 100% markup to get a sneaker 3 weeks early...rock them until everyone else has them..then put them back in the box..cause EVERYONE else has them....

C'mon homie...stop it.
 
Originally Posted by Ayipapi

^Thanks for the mindless rumble you just put out...very informative

First..never on anyone's nuts...Rock's been around for a long time...I've been around for a long time...ALOT of times he and I agree...ALOT of times we disagree...the point to my response was that we can agree to disagree with out trying to insult each other...you response to Rock was personal to the point like you know homie...you don't know him...who are you to try and push him into a corner to try and defend himself....why cause you FEEL like you got ripped off EVERYONE has to choose between Team Jacob and Team Edward..your wack for the that...(I know I'm wack for knowing who team Jacob is...lol)

Again..I understand your point...your salty...it hurts...I get it...is that Rocks fault??? Is that my fault???

The point to my post is that don't feel salty cause you got what you wanted..Again the Internet got dudes twisted...in my time if some dude had joints for sale...early ....forget fake..they was stolen...period...now that could be the case here...who knows...but I dont give a damn what anyone says...there is a Footlocker within 5 to 10 miles radius of just about every human being on the planet (literally)...with the except of Quickstrikes (Yeezy's etcs) if you do some homework...ANYTHING is obtainable...I NEVER have...NEVER will buy from early release spots...

To put it in prospective..your gonna pay $300 for a sneaker that retails at $175...which footlocker only pays Nikes $50 to $60 to purchase and cost $25 to $30 to produce...so your literally paying 100% markup to get a sneaker 3 weeks early...rock them until everyone else has them..then put them back in the box..cause EVERYONE else has them....

C'mon homie...stop it.

Salty? If I'm salty that the market is saturated with fakes, then yes, yes I am. Salty otherwise? Nope, because I don't have anything else to be salty about. 

If I can't make it to a release, I'm fine with buying a pair from flightclub or eBay. However if I cop from the latter (eBay) even if it's a powerseller with a billion feedback or an ISSer with a billion feedback I'm still buying from an unknown entity that may or may not have a legit pair. That's my issue...

Guess what fam? I can't camp out every single release (nor do I care to, especially after the DBIV release which was ridiculously sloppy), so sometimes I rather just drop the extra cash for a pair elsewhere (what's the issue here? why do people get their panties in a knot over people willing to spend the extra money? are we not supposed to get what we want if we can't get it for retail on RD?)  Back when I did buy from these early sellers, I'd buy because I'd want an extra pair anyways plus I would never know for sure if I could make it to a release. I myself worked at Finishline and still have connects but even still there are so few pairs being sent out at times I can't always count on it. I don't buy from early release sites but sometimes FCNY doesn't have what I want (take the HOH Zoom Rookies, can't find em on Uptempo, FCNY,Rif etc) so I have to go on eBay. How do I know for certain that the $500 or so I drop (hypothetically as I haven't even found them yet in my size) will guarantee me a legit pair? 

Secondly there are times that I've camped out for an entire day but I've still not been able to acquire my size as it always seems to sell out first (8.5). That means I have to go elsewhere bruh, I don't live in NY anymore so things are harder to come by.

Rockdeep btw has went out of his way to go into every thread I've posted in telling me I'm wrong about the situation while providing little to no palpable info. His track record is kind of sketchy (let's not forget about his scamming ways). Secondly I see him typing just fine, he can defend himself. He doesn't need captain save a bro to come to the rescue. 

Finally again to reiterate why I even ever bought the few pairs of early release pairs I bought, because I wanted them. Not to impress anyone, not to "look cool", not for any other reason but that they seemed legit and I liked them. Now I don't mess with any of that crap, I'd just like others to make some informed purchases. Or else we'll be dealing with the same "is so and so legit" every single release. It gets ridiculous and really waters down the entire market. 

I'm sorry I offended you or your broseph rockdeep. Ya'll have a nice day together.
 
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^its cool...you didn't offend me..lol....

One last point then I think well have to move on...what you dont realize is its people like YOU that created the Air Randies and the resellers of the world...the sad thing is just think of all the money you could have saved just making legit connects....

I dont know what the story is with you and Rock..nor do I care...I just think its point less to cry over spilled milk...

Oh and btw way since your such a fan of FC..make sure you check your pairs real close...I know some wolves that been hustlin hard in there for years...lol
 
Originally Posted by Ayipapi

^its cool...you didn't offend me..lol....

One last point then I think well have to move on...what you dont realize is its people like YOU that created the Air Randies and the resellers of the world...the sad thing is just think of all the money you could have saved just making legit connects....

I dont know what the story is with you and Rock..nor do I care...I just think its point less to cry over spilled milk...

Oh and btw way since your such a fan of FC..make sure you check your pairs real close...I know some wolves that been hustlin hard in there for years...lol
Again if people know these things, come out and let it be known. Or else you're just contributing to the problem. Secondly before I knew that VMV and all these overseas websites sold fakes I tried selling some stuff that I knew wouldn't fit me (had a late growth spurt coupled with a foot injury that has caused size change thus making it unable for me to fit some of my stuff) and everything (I mean 200 pairs plus) went through but about 15-20 pairs were sent back.
Miraculously they were all from early release website while everything else was from legit sources/retailers/FCNY themselves. I highly doubt that FCNY deals with fakes, but I'm open to any debate regarding the subject. However you'd need to bring some sort of evidence, that's a helluva accusation to make. Care to share what you know?

All I know is that Esco, AW, Julian, all stand up dudes that haven't led me astray yet. They get me my money, I get the shoes I want from them and so on, no issues as of yet, everything checks out. But hey if you have some info I'm not privy to, please share. I got me some popcorn and the night off. 
 
I saw one of this dude's vids last year...just thought to myself "this dude is really serious?"

#done
 
Originally Posted by Ayipapi

To sum it up...going at Rocky was a stupid post...fakes or whatever you want to call them come with the hype game....and stop being sooo damn thirsty...they are just kicks...
I hope these kids realize this 
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no reason to spend so much to get them early (whether they're real or fake or semifake)

no reason to ruin air randy's life over possibly making/stealing fakes
no reason to fight for the honor of "the sneaker game" 
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You're absolutely right Thunder, no reason to buy from these early release websites. However no one is answering the million dollar question, what happens to all these fakes when the real joints are released on RD? What happens when people realize when they got sold fakes? Do they donate them like a few of us have done? Or do they hit eBay, ISS, NT?


We shouldn't care about that? So we're all supposed to turn a blind eye so that a few greedy individuals (not to mention morally bankrupt) can eat? Is that right? As long as we don't knock the hustle right? Shut up and just buy the garbage they're selling right?



No one is fighting for the "sneaker game's honor" or whatever. I just don't ever want to buy any unauthorized/fake/grey market sample #*## ever again. Can we live? Can the masses breathe easy and get their shoes without fear of buying fakes? Or do we have to cater to these snakes?

Why are so many heads promoting this #*## on NT? How many of ya'll are mixed up in this #*##? This #*## stinks.
Furthermore this dude C Brown coming to dudes rescue, talking about no one knows anything for sure or whatever. Then he's like "lol, dudes is selling fakes in flightclub"....So is that what's good? As long as some of these shady snake $%% dudes is eating that some of ya'll seem to know the rest of us should just shut the +!*# up right? G.T.F.O.H with that. 
 
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

 We shouldn't care about that? So we're all supposed to turn a blind eye so that a few greedy individuals (not to mention morally bankrupt) can eat? Is that right? As long as we don't knock the hustle right? Shut up and just buy the garbage they're selling right? 
...or not buy it now that we all know better, it seems like common knowledge at this point.
I just see dudes are out for blood now 
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, trying to get him arrested or in trouble.
 
Originally Posted by ThunderChunk69

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

 We shouldn't care about that? So we're all supposed to turn a blind eye so that a few greedy individuals (not to mention morally bankrupt) can eat? Is that right? As long as we don't knock the hustle right? Shut up and just buy the garbage they're selling right? 
...or not buy it now that we all know better, it seems like common knowledge at this point.
I just see dudes are out for blood now 
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, trying to get him arrested or in trouble.


Again, answer the million dollar question. What happens if we don't buy that garbage? Others will anyways? And what happens when that stuff hits eBay, consignment spots, sneaker forums etc? I already seen a few cats talking about "I already sold the stuff I got from _______________"...

Why can't anyone answer that question? Are we supposed to just roll over? 
 
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