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Although, it would been better if they could had use other alternatives, the dude wanted to die with that kind of mentality. But to me, those cops were trigger-happy.
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Come on man. If someone bucks at me with a crowbar and he knows we have guns...says a lot and quite frankly I'm bustin on dude too! I give ole boy credit for being a true thug tho�Originally Posted by K2theAblaM
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To my account this is what i witnessed, this is only my view of what i saw while i was on the scene and NOTHING more.�
After people were running out side of the Carls Jr. a man holding what looked like to be a metal pipe bender was walking very slowly and calmly toward the side of Carls Jr. very nonchalantly smashing in the windows with his weapon, he then walked into the fast food restaurant. while the suspect was inside the police arrived and set up to the right of the enterance. the police told the suspect, some command i was unable to hear, the suspect then walked out side and well the rest can be seen from the video, at the time it was believed that he was shot with rubber pellets and sadly that wasn't case. The suspect seemed to be shot 5 times while facing the officer and then shot at 5 times again while his back was turned to the officer, allegedly of course
MONTEREY PARK, Calif. (KABC) -- A suspect armed with a crowbar was shot outside of a Carl's Jr. restaurant in Monterey Park on Monday morning.
Authorities say the incident began with the suspect breaking windows at Carl's Jr. in the 1200 block of Avenida Cesar Chavez just before�9:30�a.m. The suspect then walked inside, while workers and customers ran outside.
Police arrived as the suspect was exiting the fast-food restaurant. After repeatedly telling the suspect to drop the weapon, the suspect was Tasered.
Police said the Taser was ineffective, and the suspect swung the three-foot metal bar at officers twice. At least one officer opened fire on the suspect.
The suspect was taken to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
No one else was injured in the incident. The officer-involved shooting is under investigation.
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Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04
Don't swing a crowbar at an armed officer
That's all well and good, but what motives would an investigator have to reprimand his own?Originally Posted by digital022
Easier said than done. Sure, 10 shots seems excessive but those cops are in the heat of the moment and they are trained to shoot to kill. You put their lives in immediate danger and chances are you are gonna die, plain and simple. Don't let the medias coverage of police involved incidents give you a biased opinion. They are far and few between. There are bad seeds in every profession and police officers are no different. Let investigators decide whether it was warranted or not.Originally Posted by MJGREATXII
Cops shoulda used other alternatives, he had a crow bar. Not a gun. Don't cops have specialized training on how to take somebody down? Take the dude to the ground, and put him in cuffs, not shoot in 5 in the chest, 5 in the back. Ridiculous.
I hate cops.
Originally Posted by finnns2003
at people justifying SHOOTING A MAN 10 TIMES POINT BLANK. 1 shot in the leg wasn't enough? DISGUSTING.
No I am a tax paying adult that pays your salary. Do us all a favor and go back to the academy because obviously you lack proper judgement if you agree with the actions of those Police officers in the video. But I will book mark this page and bring this thread up in a couple years when the city of Monterey Park pays a couple million dollars to settle the wrongful death suit and that trigger happy pig is sitting in jail.Originally Posted by purehoopa1
You my friend are a moron. You have no clue. seriously you don't. I am a cop and you don't understand this Officer did everything he was trained to do. He applied force reasonable and necessary to stop the threat. The guy had a weapon, intent, and delivery system. Please google Deadly Force if you have no clue. If the Officer would have been hit in the head with that crow bar he easily could be dead, lose an eye, etc. Not every shift or dept has a K-9, we don't have rubber bullets at my dept, and F* pepper spray no one uses it because it incapacitates officer most of the time. As far as the guy shooting him 10 times, it doesn't matter. We are the only state(Wisconsin) trained to stop the threat ( i.e "Shoot them in the central nervous system aka face")Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE
That %@#% makes me mad.
Police dog, rubber bullets, tazer, pepper spray and that fat pig decided to just shoot a man dead in broad day light. WOW!
If you think someone is trying to harm you its either fight or flight. Welp you can't bring a crow bar to a gun fight. If somebody charges you with a crow bar and you have a Glock .22 lets see what your actions are. You probably would allow dude to bang your head in... SunDoobie i pray you are like 12 years old and don't know any better. If not you are a lost cause.
The shots was not from 1 person. It was 2 cops. First cop fired 5 rounds, then the suspect turned around with his back to them falling down then the other cop about 2 seconds later fired 5 more rounds into his back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally Posted by Fresh Prince of Nowhere
People are expecting the cops to aim at limbs like this is resident evil 5. You have 2-3 seconds to react and he did what he had to do. 10 shots seems excessive from one person but if the update above is correct then the officer will get off because both fired 5.
No I am a tax paying adult that pays your salary. Do us all a favor and go back to the academy because obviously you lack proper judgement if you agree with the actions of those Police officers in the video. But I will book mark this page and bring this thread up in a couple years when the city of Monterey Park pays a couple million dollars to settle the wrongful death suit and that trigger happy pig is sitting in jail.
Originally Posted by JD617
Smashing the windows out of a restaurant and then trying to swing a crowbar at a cop's head?
Good riddance. The world is better off without him.
They just want an excuse to say @#$% the policeOriginally Posted by AntonLaVey
Originally Posted by JD617
Smashing the windows out of a restaurant and then trying to swing a crowbar at a cop's head?
Good riddance. The world is better off without him.
That's the bottom line of this thread, it's very hard to empathize with people like this
I get the feeling the type of people defending the guy would've prolly still found a reason to defend him if he had a gun
Originally Posted by JD617
Smashing the windows out of a restaurant and then trying to swing a crowbar at a cop's head?
Good riddance. The world is better off without him.
If my son tried to kill someone else, sure I'd be sad, but I wouldn't be protesting if he got shot as a resultOriginally Posted by SunDOOBIE
Originally Posted by JD617
Smashing the windows out of a restaurant and then trying to swing a crowbar at a cop's head?
Good riddance. The world is better off without him.yeah good riddance to STEVEN RODRIGUEZ, 22 years old.
I am sure his mother, father, sister, brother, nephew, grandparents, friends, girlfriend all are better off without him.
Originally Posted by nawlinsjunkie
If my son tried to kill someone else, sure I'd be sad, but I wouldn't be protesting if he got shot as a resultOriginally Posted by SunDOOBIE
Originally Posted by JD617
Smashing the windows out of a restaurant and then trying to swing a crowbar at a cop's head?
Good riddance. The world is better off without him.yeah good riddance to STEVEN RODRIGUEZ, 22 years old.
I am sure his mother, father, sister, brother, nephew, grandparents, friends, girlfriend all are better off without him.Who cares how old he is?? Besides, even if the cops let him live, he would be dead to me for humiliating his family