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Why is everything always a race issue with you
In a January message titled “Saw a black guy sitting with 4 white girls,” he wrote:
Today I drove through the area near my college and saw some things that were extremely rage-inducing.
I passed by this restaurant and I saw this black guy chilling with 4 hot white girls. He didn’t even look good.
Then later on in the day I was shopping at Trader Joe’s and saw an Indian guy with 2 above average White Girls!!!
What rage-inducing sights did you guys see today? Don’t you just hate seeing these things when you go out? It just makes you want to quit life.
That same month, when an Asian poster asked if wearing certain shoes would help him attract women, Rodger responded:
Shoes won’t help you get white girls. White girls are disgusted by you, silly little Asian.
After the Asian man posted photos of himself posing with a white girl, Rodger wrote:
Full Asian men are disgustingly ugly and white girls would never go for you. You’re just butthurt that you were born as an asian piece of ****, so you lash out by linking these fake pictures. You even admit that you wish you were half white. You’ll never be half-white and you’ll never fulfill your dream of marrying a white woman. I suggest you jump off a bridge.
All the money he had he couldn't at least pay for a girl off backpage?
So this is all about gun control now? I'll pass on that.
In terms of this kid, I skimmed through a lot of the manifesto this morning. I like reading in general but there was no way I could read every word of that. I don't know if he had a journal growing up but damn, either he was making things up or it was remarkable how many details he remember even from a young age, down to the day.
Seems a lot of his issues stemmed from his parents divorce at a young age and then his father remarrying, according to him his step-mom treated him like she wanted nothing to do with him and his father did everything she said. In terms of those who said he should've been involved in team sports which could've helped, apparently he tried those, specifically basketball and soccer but he was awful at them and only got made fun of, he was always one of the smallest kids and was often bullied. He got into skateboarding which he loved and finally felt an identity with until he felt he was terrible at it. Those who believe he was repressing homosexuality, it doesn't seem to be the case at all...he details sexual desires towards females throughout and has an extremely strong lust towards blonde females who are the object of his desire and ultimately who he targets his hatred towards because he feels none are interested in him and treat him like dirt.
On the mental health aspect, it does appear that at a minimum he has narcissistic personality disorder and severe social anxiety which is why a lot of these issues were so overwhelming. He felt like he was deserving of females coming to him and he lacked the ability to speak to them on his own, seeing them out socially was a huge issue for him and he was tortured by the fact that it was other boys he would see talking, dating, kissing them, etc. He mentions having to see a psychologist and casually mentions having seen on previously but that one visit in particular was with his mom, dad & stepmom and it focused on his mom & stepmom's issues, the doctor prescribed a drug which he looked up and decided he did not want to take. I'm sure it'll come out one way or another whether he was on meds.
Anyway, I don't see any of this as an excuse but I personally believe that mental health issues need to be looked at differently. Not the social stigma that they are and that people can just get over them but as severe health issues that need to be treated like any physical health issue. I've never dealt with them myself but I've known too many people who have and while some are more severe in degrees, you can most definitely see the difference when those have been treated. It doesn't always have to be with meds and turning someone into a zombie isn't the easy solution but for some it can be helpful to determine avenues to deal with it...but either way it needs to start at awareness. Cultural awareness and personal awareness, most people don't want to believe something's "wrong" with them because of that word alone and the way society views mental health and that they're "crazy" which is unfortunate. Like many other things, these are very real issues that need to be looked at more seriously.
Doubt anyone reads all this.
Why is everything always a race issue with you
Did you read the excerpts?
Dude said his jimmies were rustled because he thought he didn't get beautiful blonde yambs due to being part Asian.
He LITERALLY said that.
He also LITERALLY said that it made him mad that "inferior" black guys could enjoy life and sex when "their ancestors were slaves." Clearly a race component here, but honestly from the manuscript he just hates all of humanity, including himself. He talks about torturing and killing all the good looking people while simultaneously talking about how good looking he is (arguable) so I think there's some self-hate behind the wall of narcissism.
There's a serious self hate component here.
If you're really good at basketball, and truly believe in your ability at hoops, do you go around telling everyone that you are? No
If you know in your heart of hearts, that 2 plus 2, equals 4, will you go around campaigning to others that fact if they believe it's actually 5? No.
Now obviously, these are extremely simple examples, but the point is, is that his self confidence is so low, that he's actually fighting it by shouting how great he is when in fact he feels the exact opposite. Also, the intrinsic lack of self confidence is evident in the fact that he essentially links having girls to self worth, which is false. True positive self worth, true self confidence, has nothing to do with your success rate with girls.
I just think of a Desert Strike situation. I doubt they would attack us from the ground if they really wanted to make us take them serious.
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I just think of a Desert Strike situation. I doubt they would attack us from the ground if they really wanted to make us take them serious.
If 5% of US gun owners took up arms wed be the biggest army n the world.
How long have cave dwellers with AKs rebeled against our governement. Half the army would fight for the people. Our guns and our knowledge is litterally all we have in the grand scheme of things. Soon our net will be filtered and guns will be more n more challenging to legally obtain. If u dont wanna be a sitting duck.... Own guns and property
that's right. That is the reason why it is that it's our duty as an American Citizen to own weapons.
It's obvious the government wants to disarm their people, it's obvious they want to limit our knowledge and our access to information. I like it how when it comes to nsa and such they say "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about." The same can be said towards them and their intent to disarm us.
As soon as I start this job and get back on my feet I'm gonna buy a couple rifles.
He was from a well off family, so his parents probably didn't nurture him from a young age. Seemed like they attempted to use their money to "fix" him. Dude came across in his videos as severely damaged, like almost incapable of loving. I'm guessing his folks just pulled one of the "let the butler raise him" type deals. Just speculation on my part.Posts the last several or so pages have been pretty great.
What are you guys thoughts on the parents? With these types of incidents, we usually jump to the conclusion that the parents didn't do enough and place a lot of blame on them.
From the info I've seen it appears that they actually did take action over the years to get him treatment and prevent something like this. Just wonder what else they could have done differently, if anything at all.... I mean the kid was technically an adult but I believe the relationship he had with his family and that whole dynamic will be discussed a good deal.
Posts the last several or so pages have been pretty great.
What are you guys thoughts on the parents? With these types of incidents, we usually jump to the conclusion that the parents didn't do enough and place a lot of blame on them.
From the info I've seen it appears that they actually did take action over the years to get him treatment and prevent something like this. Just wonder what else they could have done differently, if anything at all.... I mean the kid was technically an adult but I believe the relationship he had with his family and that whole dynamic will be discussed a good deal.
He was from a well off family, so his parents probably didn't nurture him from a young age. Seemed like they attempted to use their money to "fix" him. Dude came across in his videos as severely damaged, like almost incapable of loving. I'm guessing his folks just pulled one of the "let the butler raise him" type deals. Just speculation on my part.
You really think our arms can fight against the governments tanks, missles etc in a instance of martial law lol?I often ask this question but I think the whole, "If we don't have guns and "they" try to turn this into legit Martial Law, we need to have something to protect ourselves" is in the back of people's minds.
You really think our arms can fight against the governments tanks, missles etc in a instance of martial law lol?
to say sex, or lack thereof, drove this kid to murder would be oversimplifying to say the least. his issues with his virgnity was a symptom of a truly deep rooted dissatisfaction he had with himself. the ease with which he was given everything he owned created a insatiable sense of entitlement within this guy. so much so that he couldn't fathom having to actually work to attain anything, be it respect, admiration or women. this is his main issue. once he started smashing, he would've found an issue with the lack of reverence women treated him with, or something else.
this situation is dejecting, and i imagine his parents must be humiliated. what a fatal example that money can't raise your babies for you. in his videos, i view this guy as nothing more than an empty shell, draped in the finest goods money can buy while missing everything that makes a man a man –– substance, character, dignity. everything his parents, his father especially, were responsible for investing in him is absent. but what requires no effort to give –– money –– is there in abundance. his father could direct some of hbo's biggest sitcoms but couldn't steer his son down a path of respect.
i haven't read through much of this thread, so my apologies if i'm repeating an argument already made.
but, within minutes of a serial killer's white identity being revealed, the media wastes no time to label him "mentally ill." these are children who were reared in by educated parents in safe and financially stable environments, yet they evoke so much sympathy from us. but no question of a mental state is mentioned when a minority murders or steals. poverty-induced depression and psychosis is very real, and in my opinion, much more valid than the derangement of an overly entitled spoiled brat. trayvon was murdered in innocence, yet zimmerman was met with overwhelming support as the media spent months attempting to prove an unarmed boy deserved to die. elliot rogers premeditated his attack, documented the erosion of his sanity and the inflation of his ego, before carrying out a senseless string of violence.
when will we wake up? when will we begin to develop less biased, racially skewed, more objective standards for murderers? if this boy is mentally ill,
No I don't. Read everything I typed please.You really think our arms can fight against the governments tanks, missles etc in a instance of martial law lol?
Not true. Just like these mass shooters, a good deal of analyzing serial killers is dedicated to studying their brain as it relates to psychology. You always hear about their childhood too. Alcoholic dad, abusive uncle, neglect, etc. That type of investigating can result in mitigation during sentencing.^^^ Skin color has nothing to do with mental illness or gun violence... Why are you making that appeal? Serial killers get no sympathy for their actions from ANYONE whether they're black, white, or Asian. I don't get why you're trying to pull this direction into a racial discussion. Plenty of messed up killers in recent times come from very different backgrounds.
1) Dzhokhar & Tamerlan Tsarnaev
2) Seung-hui Choi
3) James Holmes
3) Nidal Malik Hasan
4) John Allen Muhammad
5) Adam Lanza
What needs to be focused on is figuring out a solution which prevents mentally ill people from getting access to guns. When considering that Elliot Rodger was seen by a mental health professional and was still able to obtain a gun, it just shows that there are people that still manage to slip through the cracks of these background checks. Additionally, I don't know what more we can do to improve the quality of mental health care, but if anything this is a good time to make the case for increased accessibility and acceptance throughout our communities.