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Why do you think Manny batted nearly .500 for the dodgers after leaving Boston? Is wasn't cause he ate his Wheaties.
Report: Manny, Ortiz tested positive in '03
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by sinser13,
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If it was that would shatter the sport of baseball... he's the MLB's golden boy.
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bfa,
can't the same be said about the NFL? we know players in that league are juicing, but none of us care.
can't the same be said about the NFL? we know players in that league are juicing, but none of us care.
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getting worse and worse for baseball... I love the game but I just can't take it serious anymore.
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same here
Tony Gwynn?
Cal?
I'm just thinking who would cause the most uproar...
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Off topic, but is that Thomas Sowell in your avy? My dad and brother love that guy. My dad sends me articles from Sowell just about every otherday. Interesting to see his face on NT.Originally Posted by Fede DPT
2004 ALCS*
As for the thread, I really don't care. I mean, who didn't see this coming?
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Seriously?
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How can you take it seriously if a good amount of the league's star players are cheaters? Even the players who haven't cheated can't be trustedbecause nobody really knows.
I kind of agree with the WWE comparison made a few pages back.
I kind of agree with the WWE comparison made a few pages back.
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I could care less. Cheating has been happening in baseball from the beginning. Funny how the steroid guys saved baseball & know their thrownunder the bus.
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Originally Posted by yungchamp
Fear The Ibis said:Damn. I was just about to post this. Y'all are fast.
i swear
Originally Posted by Fede DPT
2004 ALCS*
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Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos
same here
Tony Gwynn?
Cal?
I'm just thinking who would cause the most uproar...
Ripkin is so far off the steroid radar, that I'm sure some peoples heads would explode if he was listed. But with his consecutive game streak, I doubt hewas on that stuff.
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EVERY sport has their share of %#+$ . Let's fAce it, what's done is done. The longball SAVED this sport 15 years ago and like someone said NOWthey're being persecuted the fact of the matter is they're trying to finally do something about it NOW. Is it a little late? Of course, but they'reputting it in place and that's what matters. I'd be more mad if the locker rooms were still a free for all...
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It's America's favorite sport right now. Like when the favorite son does something wrong, it gets poo-pooed and swept under the rug.
I've been saying this for a long time. I love the NFL, NCAA College Football, you can't seriously look at the players in the 90's and look at howplayers look now. Physique wise,
You have Defensive Ends running as fast as some Running Backs were running a decade ago.
It is a part of sports.
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Originally Posted by DaJoka004
Hooray!
I bring this up every time we have a new name leaked, but I've been saying since the steroid talk began that you're favorite player is most likely juicing. It's hilarious to see how the tone of the public (NT included) has changed. I've never cared. There was never a reason to. When just about everyone is doing it, how is that not a level playing field? The only thing it does is allow you to appreciate the clean players that much more.
Can't wait for the next name
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really doesnt suprise anyone anymore
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Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo
It's America's favorite sport right now. Like when the favorite son does something wrong, it gets poo-pooed and swept under the rug.
I've been saying this for a long time. I love the NFL, NCAA College Football, you can't seriously look at the players in the 90's and look at how players look now. Physique wise,.
You have Defensive Ends running as fast as some Running Backs were running a decade ago.
It is a part of sports.
So because the physique has changed a little over a decade you conclude that steroids must be the reason. Did you see how NBA players looked in the 50'sand 60's they looked like average joes... no type of physical definition. They were minimal physically dominating players on the scale of a Dwight Howard,Shaq or Wilt Chamberlain, at that time physical strength wasn't a prerequisite but now in the NBA you need strength thats why more players lift weights andhave more muscle mass... when your guarding players like David Robinson, Lebron James, Patrick Ewing, Yao and etc you cant rely on skills alone.
And to debunk that whole DE's running faster than RB's a decade ago. As yourself what was the record for a 100m race in 1960's... Jim Hines ran a9.95 now fastfoward to 2009 the average sprinter can beat that time with ease. Humans evolve and with more access to better gym facilities for training andbetter diets the body is able to perform better compared to past
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sadly everyone on the top teams does it now, so its somewhat evened out.
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Like I said, until he names names I won't believe him.
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That's your prerogative. It won't be the first time Canseco's proven right.
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if u dont think roid use isn't prevalent in the nfl then you are extremely naive or biased.Originally Posted by NostrandAve68
Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo
It's America's favorite sport right now. Like when the favorite son does something wrong, it gets poo-pooed and swept under the rug.
I've been saying this for a long time. I love the NFL, NCAA College Football, you can't seriously look at the players in the 90's and look at how players look now. Physique wise,.
You have Defensive Ends running as fast as some Running Backs were running a decade ago.
It is a part of sports.
So because the physique has changed a little over a decade you conclude that steroids must be the reason. Did you see how NBA players looked in the 50's and 60's they looked like average joes... no type of physical definition. They were minimal physically dominating players on the scale of a Dwight Howard, Shaq or Wilt Chamberlain, at that time physical strength wasn't a prerequisite but now in the NBA you need strength thats why more players lift weights and have more muscle mass... when your guarding players like David Robinson, Lebron James, Patrick Ewing, Yao and etc you cant rely on skills alone.
And to debunk that whole DE's running faster than RB's a decade ago. As yourself what was the record for a 100m race in 1960's... Jim Hines ran a 9.95 now fastfoward to 2009 the average sprinter can beat that time with ease. Humans evolve and with more access to better gym facilities for training and better diets the body is able to perform better compared to past
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This.
Originally Posted by DaJoka004
Hooray!
I bring this up every time we have a new name leaked, but I've been saying since the steroid talk began that you're favorite player is most likely juicing. It's hilarious to see how the tone of the public (NT included) has changed. I've never cared. There was never a reason to. When just about everyone is doing it, how is that not a level playing field? The only thing it does is allow you to appreciate the clean players that much more.
Can't wait for the next name
And this.
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release the names...let them all in the Hall
