Ray Donovan; new series on showtime

[hand2handking]

really since the show started ray been at least trying not to kill

remember dude he put in the tub and made him dye himself green? 

and i dont remember abby having a problem with ray killing when she thought cookie was a threat 

 

[Master Zik]

Honestly, it's slightly understandable. She is in denial but from what we've seen Ray doesn't kill himself when he fixes problems whether it's business or personal..

He can go there and has but as far as his job he's not a hit man. Every time he's killed he's been pushed to do it.

The farthest he went with his job is covering up murder.

Ever since Mickey came to town that's when **** changed as far as killing goes.

 

[eiddyfouw]

Honestly, it's slightly understandable. She is in denial but from what we've seen Ray doesn't kill himself when he fixes problems whether it's business or personal..

He can go there and has but as far as his job he's not a hit man. Every time he's killed he's been pushed to do it.

The farthest he went with his job is covering up murder.

Ever since Mickey came to town that's when **** changed as far as killing goes.

The way I look at it.

Ray is a fixer. He's not a hitman. Dude couldn't be living a family life in LA while randomly blazing people every week.

But Abby knows, that Ray will put in work if need be. She's been around the Donovan's the majority of her life. She knows what kinda people she's in bed with.

It's just everything is happening all at the same time and it's becoming too much for her to handle, so she's in denial.

Her entire family (which is all she has) has basically fallen apart, add in the cancer scare and it's no surprise why she's like this....






Correct me if I'm wrong, does Abby know about the priest Ray killed? I can't remember if she was privy to that info...

 

[illphillip]

Honestly, the thought of a woman choosing to be completely naive to her husband's actions isn't that crazy to me.

 

[Xennial]

She's from Southie so she's been around irish gangsters her whole life.  No way she doesn't know that Ray is a real G

 

[illphillip]

Being around gangsters and knowing who does/doesn't have bodies isn't the same thing.

 

[alexody]

The way I look at it.


But Abby knows, that Ray will put in work if need be. She's been around the Donovan's the majority of her life. She knows what kinda people she's in bed with.

It's just everything is happening all at the same time and it's becoming too much for her to handle, so she's in denial.

If that's the case, why would she let Mick hang around their family?

Ray has been tryna shelter everybody and it results in alot of things looking shaky to the rest of the family including Abby.

 

[Master Zik]

Y'all gotta keep in mind Ray just told her he and Mickey and whoever else took the war to a crime family, killed them all after Mickey ratted on them and a Russian.

That's literally some eye opening gang war **** That's 5 families mob wars type ****.

That's a bit further than killing Cookie for threatening their fam.

Ray took Abby and the fam to LA partially to get away from that kind of crime and violence in Boston.

 

[eiddyfouw]

The way I look at it.


But Abby knows, that Ray will put in work if need be. She's been around the Donovan's the majority of her life. She knows what kinda people she's in bed with.

It's just everything is happening all at the same time and it's becoming too much for her to handle, so she's in denial.

If that's the case, why would she let Mick hang around their family?

Ray has been tryna shelter everybody and it results in alot of things looking shaky to the rest of the family including Abby.

Family is family. We look past a lotta stuff when it comes to family.

I got friends of mine who's family members done bids, but when they come out, they still come home. Is what it is.

Ray is trying to shelter his family because he's trying to keep his family together, safe and live comfortably, the only way he knows how.

But Abby knows Ray will put in work if he needs....I do agree with Master Zik though, it's one thing for Abby to know Ray will body someone with little to no repercussions, but going after the Russian Mob is a different ball game.

 

[alexody]

Dude if she knew half the things Mick did, she wouldn't let her underage son hang with him.
There's a reason she went behind Ray's back and kept communication with Mick. She's in the dark on so many things

 

[definition of dopeness]

Yo has Mickey ever pulled off a successful caper? Watched the latest ep last night and got to thinking about it and I can't remember if he has.

 

[Master Zik]

Nope. Not since he arrived.

No 100% successful caper. At best small time **** like minor theft/robbery.

 

[Xennial]

He had some success pimping for a short period of time but not that successful in heists

 

[eiddyfouw]

He had some success pimping for a short period of time but not that successful in heists

sometimes some good ideas, but lack of planning and his rag-tag teams always let him down

 

[Xennial]

You don't think he had a good team for the marijuana dispensary robbery?

sometimes some good ideas, but lack of planning and his rag-tag teams always let him down

 

[Master Zik]

Given how Terry got locked in nope.

 

[eiddyfouw]

Given how Terry got locked in nope.

exactly.

 

[aepps20]

Kenneth Cosgrove is scum yuck. We all knew Mickey's plan wouldn't work based on his past but I was rolling when the lights came on early. [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji].

 

[Brownstone]

Honestly, the thought of a woman choosing to be completely naive to her husband's actions isn't that crazy to me.

True, but the histrionic and weak trope that these shows troll out to contrast with strong male leads is annoying, and quite honestly NOT realistic.

Forgot about what happened before season 1, even what we know she knows should be enough to have her not react how she did to the break in. She would way more likely not be phased by it/done it before. The fact that she is losing her mind over it is just not authentic to me.

 

[hand2handking]

whats unbelievable to me is mickey gettin yet another black chick somehow head over heels 

 

 

[Mark Antony]

So how is this show? Where does it rank among the top shows? Looking for something new.

 

[Master Zik]

whats unbelievable to me is mickey gettin yet another black chick somehow head over heels   

Yeah, this is like the 3rd if you count Daryl's mom.

You could assume Mickey has been there long enough to run game on her cuz he definitely ain't know her before.

 

[Master Zik]

So how is this show? Where does it rank among the top shows? Looking for something new.

This show is really really good.

It'll fill that crime, morally gray, family gap for good tv. Shines a specific light on Hollywood.

I'd say there's nothing else like it on tv.

 

[alexody]

whats unbelievable to me is mickey gettin yet another black chick somehow head over heels   

Yea I thought I was the only one.

With more thought on it, no way is 4 mill guarded that lightly I plan heists on GTA V more intricate than Mick's and don't even score that big.

Maybe Abb never shot anybody (looked pretty decent at the range) let alone a headshot

 

[Master Zik]

Mickey getting mouth raped for a ride

Ray singing Seger Went from that Boston accent to actuall singing. 3 mil karaoke.

"Go to bed"

Boss move and yet I feel bad for Bunchy.