Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[VARNELL HILL]

 
Yeah that **** was hella weird 

I knew this was gonna turn into something tho

Last week somebody on twitter said that they were getting too comfortable and CTG replied they weren't competing with ES but did concede that they are competing for online views and told dude to go "do the math" since "views are visible" on some cocky ****.

Dude came back and said well y'all had Yachty and Wale on and both episodes did more numbers than their respective BC interviews 

 Then he started talking about I know the game drama sells so they supposed to do better blah blah

I don't even know how it's arguable. He was FLAT OUT hating.

Son started telling Akademiks about Joe's friends and how they don't like Akademiks...this one said this...that one said that. I was sitting there disgusted.

I don't know how ANYBODY rocks w/ Charlemagne at all. 

 

[tay1]

I've never even watched a breakfast club interview

 

[6pac]

everyday struggle is definitely lapping the breakfast club as far as

 

[ninjahood]

also everyday struggle NAILS da first take ESPN style of analysis in rap/hiphop. da breakfast club doesn't have that much latitude cuz many of their guests are there to promote a product and ain't ready for that cold clinical type of run down...or else you wouldn't be able to book anyone.

 

[P C H]

 
I don't even know how it's arguable. He was FLAT OUT hating.

Son started telling Akademiks about Joe's friends and how they don't like Akademiks...this one said this...that one said that. I was sitting there disgusted.

I don't know how ANYBODY rocks w/ Charlemagne at all. 

The amount of shade he was throwing towards Joe and ES on his podcast was cringeworthy

 

[harlemtothebronx]

It was a blatant attempt to start beef between them.

It was funny at first, but after a while you could tell they weren't being genuine. Had to turn it off. Too corny.

 

[Magic33]

A couple of times they got totally off it and they came back to talking about him and Joe's relationship

 

[trynafeelmink]

As someone who's been listening to the BI podcast for a year & change & Joe podcast for about the same time.. these two are really not nearly the same kind of personalities. Outside of being honest they do two completely different things. and Again Charlamagne's brand and topic discussion varies a lot more than Joe's

And once again, if AK tells you that Charlamagne personally calls him all the time to give him tips on how to better his brand and the show, invited him on to his platform to discuss the show..... how exactly is that hating

also ya'll are acting as if Charlamagne has no presence online

Joe has his podcast & now ES

Char has his podcast (which is bigger than Joe's), BC interviews, A constant relationship with vlad, pretty much the big homie to Tax, Bodega Boys, & the Read which are also huge podcast that are loved by the young/internet generation.

Not to mention that Joe is NOWHERE near him at conducting an interview or controlling the pace of the interview. BC is gonna always have an advantage because they are much more diverse in there subject matter and anybody who's making noise in hiphop HAS to touch the breakfast club.

Just like there's a crowd who doesn't wanna hear from angela rye, there's an even bigger crowd who don't know or give a **** about xxx whateva & his tweets. The breakfast club is literally bringing presidential candidates on there show, if some lil Yachty fans rather watch AK talk about him, that's not really hurting there brand at all.

This is pretty much the same arguments people use when discussing this new wave of rappers like Uzi, Yachty, Carti, thug etc etc... They are doing there thing and they get support from a certain demographic. However those who appeal to larger demographics are really the ones dominating rap.... The Kendricks, Cole, Drake, Sean, Kanye etc etc

you don't have to dominate the youth lane to be on top, you just have to make sure that your relevant with a portion of them too, but creating content specifically for the "youth" and ignoring the rest is gonna leave you a distant second.

 

[str8drop]

You saying all that does not change the fact that the _ said  himself that they're competing for online views 

And then he turn around and does the **** on the podcast this week and you don't think he hating? 

Bruh straight up told Ak he wouldn't have done the show and then spent the rest of the podcast tryna plant seeds in his head like he not appreciated up there. Female ****

 

[trynafeelmink]

You saying all that does not change the fact that the _ said himself that they're competing for online views 



And then he turn around and does the **** on the podcast this week and you don't think he hating? 

Bruh straight up told Ak he wouldn't have done the show and then spent the rest of the podcast tryna plant seeds in his head like he not appreciated up there. Female ****

competing for views on one of his platforms doesn't = competing with him for his role as a personality in hiphop they do VERY different things.

also since this "beef" popped up i've heard both AK & Joe state that Charlamagne has reached out and given them feedback on the show, he's promoted and discussed it three weeks in a row on his own platform and brought one of the host over on air and openly discussed the show.... How much failure can you really want for something if you actively promote ie and speak to the content creators giving them tips

Charlamagne (& Joe for that matter) know there's no real issues, but the illusion that there' "jealousy" now cretes convos like this, nd it's free promotion. So now when someone mentions ES Charlamagne & his various platforms are now included and vice versa. nothing more than banter to boost interest in both because hip hop loves the idea of battle and two sides not liking eachother. This thread is proof of how well that works.

The fact that ****** are bringing up Char telling him not to go to the party because they might jump him, and taking that as a serious comment says enough . Either some cats are really naive or just aren't use to his Shtick by now.

 

[ggarvinxx3]

What is all this foolishness in this thread BC dying off? 

I like ES but nah B

Now I agree CTG was def going OD on Joe but I think its just something there that only them two and a few insiders that know them both personally understand but cmon now

BC official youtube channel has only been up for a few months but its already over 1.2 mill subs 

Complex been around on youtube for years on YT and even with ES is still at 1 mill subs

BC has interviews that go mega viral and even create new slang n ish put some respek on they name smh. BC aint going no where because they don't just cover hip hop but most of pop culture, if some non hip hop ish pop off BC can exploit where as ES can't do that. BC got opportunities to be all over social media, TMZ, large news outlets with their content. ES right now is underground and thats where its gonna stay cuz I can't trust Joe. Their show is just not in the same lane

Y'all tripping 

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Wax gonna smack rory like Ransom did joe's cousin [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

 

[Magic33]

What is all this foolishness in this thread BC dying off? 

I like ES but nah B

Now I agree CTG was def going OD on Joe but I think its just something there that only them two and a few insiders that know them both personally understand but cmon now

BC official youtube channel has only been up for a few months but its already over 1.2 mill subs 

Complex been around on youtube for years on YT and even with ES is still at 1 mill subs

BC has interviews that go mega viral and even create new slang n ish put some respek on they name smh. BC aint going no where because they don't just cover hip hop but most of pop culture, if some non hip hop ish pop off BC can exploit where as ES can't do that. BC got opportunities to be all over social media, TMZ, large news outlets with their content. ES right now is underground and thats where its gonna stay cuz I can't trust Joe. Their show is just not in the same lane

Y'all tripping 

You read, but you don't seem to comprehend

I'll break it down for you

ES is strictly internet, There following is on social media and the internet which people younger than 25 use.

TBC is on radio, syndicated. I Heart next month could have a bad quarter and say we're no longer going to syndicate nationally. We're going to let go some talent like ESPN and SI. Because local radio and most local radio listeners prefer local radio DJ's anyway. Markets were pissed when the companies started syndicating and taking away their host they grew up on away. People who could tell local stories and news. I Heart doesn't do that, because it's cheaper. Instead of paying radio personalities in 45 markets, they can pay just one. If I Heart decides on something different, TBC goes back to being local just like that. I Heart could also could make a shake up if ratings dip. That Birdman interview means something entirely different if just the tri state area hears it.

TBC is based around being on the radio, radio, in which most young people don't listen to. If there is no strong radio syndicated radio presence, there is no online presence. Their listener ship decreases immensely.

And subscribers?

What has Complex's most popular videos been before? Those sneaker shopping ones get over a million, two million views. Complex has multiple channels. They have a brand and online presence and are building a network, like with those hot wings. They did the same thing with these sneaker websites, most of the big ones are under Complex. They've gone from magazines to trying to occupy pieces and segments of the internet. TBC, the reason dude probably stopped posting TBC vids up here is because he probably got a cease and desist. Because right after that they started shutting down all the other TBC channels until there was one. YouTube merged all those subscribers in to one and started chopping up their show like the bootleg sites did. Because even though they had a online presence, for the past six years they missed out on YouTube money because of the bootleg channels. They had content, but didn't monopolize it.

TBC is totally dependent on what a fortune 500 company decides to do. Which can always change. Ed Lover was getting ratings, and they let him go.

 

[6pac]

What do 18-26 year olds care about more? A show that literally pulls its content from whats on their timeline or an hour long sit down with Michael Eric Dyson or the newest basketball wife that Viacom needs airtime for?

Dont be suprised if Envy and Yee get the boot in favor of Scottie Beam and someone else that can more directly compete with ES' dynamic.

The difference in activity between this thread and Breakfast Club speaks directly to how the young hip hop consumer is feeling about these two shows. Everyday Struggle is basically everything we liked about Breakfast Club with the fat trimmed and a solely hip hop/black Twitter focus.

 

[OBAMA]

i like desus and mero more than bc and es tbh

 

[tay1]

Desus and Mero are in a totally different lane so the comparison is weird 

 

[dat dude chris]

i like desus and mero more than bc and es tbh

Easily but Viceland got their show on a slightly more political tip than ES & BC

Still fire cuz them dudes can make anything they talk bout sound entertaining lol

 

[heliumclinton]

Dont be suprised if Envy and Yee get the boot in favor of Scottie Beam and someone else that can more directly compete with ES' dynamic.

lmao @ thinking TBC has to compete with a internet show that's been out for 2 months, y'all silly

 

[Hahahaha]

They're getting old, everyone has kind of copied their style and done it now. It's old, their interviews aren't as good. Envy and Yee don't add anything to the interview and CTG has been censored. He was more outspoken the first year they did this. I rarely watch them now and I used to always watch.

 

[trynafeelmink]

in the words of Nore i'm befuddled as to why ya'll are acting as if the BC isn't the biggest viral/online show in hiphop culture tho... or as if the host don't have substantial noteriety online. I have NEVER heard a breakfast club show live on the radio, yet every time something happens on that show there are viral clips and it's being discussed all over social media. This narrative that the 18-26 yr old demo doesn't tune in to the breakfast club is just a lie in it's most basic form.

To put this in perspective that Birdman Clip dropped a day after Prince died.... After that initial 24hrs the biggest story on the TL was Charlamagne's exchange with Birdman, ya'll tellin me terrestrial radio listeners were the ones firing up the meme's and trending the video

Also again to the person who at nauseum taalkin about who the teens care for.... News flash the BC is centered specifically for teens. so while some 16 yr old may wanna here a discussion with lil whoever.... there's still a massive percentage of there viewers who don't and would rather hear from a politiciaan, or an actor etc etc.

These people are interviewing the Chris Rocks, Jay-Z, Farrakhan's, presidential candidates of the world.... and ya'll are claiming they should change their set up to "compete" with Joe Budden & AK of the world who are arguing whether Wale is corny or not..... i like everyday struggle but there's major perspective missing

 

[osirus]

What do 18-26 year olds care about more? A show that literally pulls its content from whats on their timeline or an hour long sit down with Michael Eric Dyson or the newest basketball wife that Viacom needs airtime for?

Dont be suprised if Envy and Yee get the boot in favor of Scottie Beam and someone else that can more directly compete with ES' dynamic.

The difference in activity between this thread and Breakfast Club speaks directly to how the young hip hop consumer is feeling about these two shows. Everyday Struggle is basically everything we liked about Breakfast Club with the fat trimmed and a solely hip hop/black Twitter focus.

This is the part that will keep it going. Most of us aren't looking for that variety tbc is offering up lately. We want to know what WE are up to and that's it. There's enough outlets who cover all pop culture.

 

[str8drop]

These people are interviewing the Chris Rocks, Jay-Z, Farrakhan's, presidential candidates of the world.... and ya'll are claiming they should change their set up to "compete" with Joe Budden & AK of the world who are arguing whether Wale is corny or not..... i like everyday struggle but there's major perspective missing

quote who said that

 

[OBAMA]

 
Desus and Mero are in a totally different lane so the comparison is weird 

ehhh not really but i feel where you coming from. desus and mero started off on complex and their brand really hasnt changed much. its grown but it still feels the same to me

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

no homo

 

[Peep Game]

in the words of Nore i'm befuddled as to why ya'll are acting as if the BC isn't the biggest viral/online show in hiphop culture tho... or as if the host don't have substantial noteriety online. I have NEVER heard a breakfast club show live on the radio, yet every time something happens on that show there are viral clips and it's being discussed all over social media. This narrative that the 18-26 yr old demo doesn't tune in to the breakfast club is just a lie in it's most basic form.

To put this in perspective that Birdman Clip dropped a day after Prince died.... After that initial 24hrs the biggest story on the TL was Charlamagne's exchange with Birdman, ya'll tellin me terrestrial radio listeners were the ones firing up the meme's and trending the video

Also again to the person who at nauseum taalkin about who the teens care for.... News flash the BC is centered specifically for teens. so while some 16 yr old may wanna here a discussion with lil whoever.... there's still a massive percentage of there viewers who don't and would rather hear from a politiciaan, or an actor etc etc.

These people are interviewing the Chris Rocks, Jay-Z, Farrakhan's, presidential candidates of the world.... and ya'll are claiming they should change their set up to "compete" with Joe Budden & AK of the world who are arguing whether Wale is corny or not..... i like everyday struggle but there's major perspective missing

I especially agree with this part here. BC isn't just interviewing random *** people, they are legit

 

[Maximus Meridius]

in the words of Nore i'm befuddled as to why ya'll are acting as if the BC isn't the biggest viral/online show in hiphop culture tho... or as if the host don't have substantial noteriety online. I have NEVER heard a breakfast club show live on the radio, yet every time something happens on that show there are viral clips and it's being discussed all over social media. This narrative that the 18-26 yr old demo doesn't tune in to the breakfast club is just a lie in it's most basic form.

To put this in perspective that Birdman Clip dropped a day after Prince died.... After that initial 24hrs the biggest story on the TL was Charlamagne's exchange with Birdman, ya'll tellin me terrestrial radio listeners were the ones firing up the meme's and trending the video

Also again to the person who at nauseum taalkin about who the teens care for.... News flash the BC is centered specifically for teens. so while some 16 yr old may wanna here a discussion with lil whoever.... there's still a massive percentage of there viewers who don't and would rather hear from a politiciaan, or an actor etc etc.

These people are interviewing the Chris Rocks, Jay-Z, Farrakhan's, presidential candidates of the world.... and ya'll are claiming they should change their set up to "compete" with Joe Budden & AK of the world who are arguing whether Wale is corny or not..... i like everyday struggle but there's major perspective missing

I especially agree with this part here. BC isn't just interviewing random *** people, they are legit

According the voice of the youth nobody cares about those people. Yachty, Carti and Lil Moist are whats really poppin.