Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[harlemtothebronx]

Em has kinda been subpar since Relapse in '09. And even then, most people don't really mess with Relapse. I'm in the minority.

It's arguable honestly if we're talking last 10 years.

 

[pmpdaddyrobford]

Drake should continue to apply pressure to Kanye, that ***** be buggin frfr.

Drakes writers workin overtime

 

[a blinkin]

Arguable, sure. But we can argue anything if we have time. If we’re talking the past 10 years, we’re only discussing Relapse, Recovery, MMLP2, Revival, and now Kamikaze. Save for Revival, I’ve heard both negative and positive sentiments around all those albums. But that’s the case with literally every album put out in the hip hop genre. Kamikaze seems to be well received since it’s dropped.

I’m not rolling with the idea that Em is some lesser emcee. Son has a stretch of 3 consecutive classics in a discography of 10 albums. Save for one that’s undeniably bad album (Recovery), the totality of his catalogue is solid. I’m not about to be dismissive of Em like that. Especially not because disgruntled Magic chooses to vent his frustrations on the podcast. Fact of the matter is son is saying that the bars Em gave him doesn’t warrant a rap response... but over an hour and 30 minute rant is suitable.

That’s corny.

 

[addict4sneakers]

I don’t like Joe Budden the personality but he talked about the diss for an hour and a half and won’t rap?

Soft

 

[Figured it out]

Good to see I’m not the minority with Joe >>>> Em

 

[Hahahaha]

Joe barely talked about the diss.

More talked about Em's struggle the last 10-12 years making great music and what happened to Slaughterhouse and why they had issues at Shady.

Joe also said if Em drops a real diss record, he'll respond.

I do agree the point that Em's bars weren't worth a response.

 

[tay1]

Arguable, sure. But we can argue anything if we have time. If we’re talking the past 10 years, we’re only discussing Relapse, Recovery, MMLP2, Revival, and now Kamikaze. Save for Revival, I’ve heard both negative and positive sentiments around all those albums. Kamikaze seems to be well received since it’s dropped.

I’m not rolling with the idea that Em is some lesser emcee. Son has a stretch of 3 consecutive classics in a discography of 10 albums. Save for one that’s undeniably bad album (Recovery), the totality of his catalogue is solid. I’m not about to be dismissive of Em like that. Especially not because disgruntled Magic chooses to vent his frustrations on the podcast. Fact of the matter is son is saying that the bars Em gave him doesn’t warrant a rap response... but over an hour and 30 minute rant is suitable.

That’s corny.

TES isnt this bonafide classic people want it to be. Half of it's good. It's just great in comparison to the trash hes dropped after

And his diss didnt warrant a response tbh. He said something something about a body bag and smacking *******. He didnt reall bar him up

 

[kdslittlebro]

a blinkin I turned it off to listen to Joe, but your boys D&M were going in on Em track by track too

 

[a blinkin]

Oh ****. I already know Mero is in full trash talk mode over that album. Homie has been giving Em hell for years.

Gonna play that after Joe’s.

 

[a blinkin]

That’s my point. Em didn’t bar him up. I agree with Joe that the line didn’t warrant a response.

But it damn sure didn’t warrant an hour and a half tirade about your issues with Em to the degree that you’re talking down on that man like he’s a peon rapper. Eminem is a ******* legend and folks are discounting that on some prisoner of the moment steeze. Call him trash when he’s trash (ie Revival and the other more debatable albums), but to say that ***** is “a lesser emcee”... get the **** out of here.

Like cut the ********, Joe. This was you just a year ago.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Wow. This Drake/Kanye is like watching 2 lame _'s fight. One loves Trump, the other wore blackface and doesn't race. Both slipped up with h0ez. It's too much material on both sides. And is Drake still ducking Pusha?

Joe Budden is bugged the **** out for saying that Em is a lesser emcee. I’m not rollin with that. Ever.

It's been a whole lot of rewriting history on Em lately. People act like he was never looked at as one of the best lyrically or that black people never liked/listened to him.

Joe Budden damn sure was never as good as Em. Forget sells and popularity. Joe at his best was never as good as Em at his best.

 

[Proposition Joe]

Give me Mood Muzik 2 over Marshall’s very existence

Agreed!!!!

Three sides to a story is just

 

[a blinkin]

TES isnt this bonafide classic people want it to be.

Stop it.

 

[kdslittlebro]

Couldn't the same prisoner of the moment mentality be attributed to Em's come up as well?

Just for conversation purposes

 

[Proposition Joe]

Couldn't the same prisoner of the moment mentality be attributed to Em's come up as well?

Just for conversation purposes

Yes!


“IM SORRY MAMA, I NEVER MEANT TO HURT YOUUOUUU”

when I go back and listen his music it sounds so lame now. He has some cool tracks and is a dope MC but the majority I thought was hard sounds so corny now. Reasonable doubt, it was written, it’s dark and hell is hot and more... those still sound just as good as the first time I’ve heard them.

 

[kdslittlebro]

I can honestly say I was on Em as heavy

before 10 yrs ago as I've been off him the last decade

 

[Ingenious Bastard]

Drake is looking like a bully at this point this is sad to watch. Koonye doesn't want any smoke with that man, and he's making that painfully obvious.

It's like watching a fight where one dude isnt fighting back, and just crying while getting his a s beat.

 

[tay1]

Stop it.

*Shrugs*

I dont feel like that's too outlandish. Album is 20 tracks. While it contains some of his best writing and cleaning out my closet is still one of my favorite tracks, he still has tracks like Without Me and Square Dance

 

[a blinkin]

Couldn't the same prisoner of the moment mentality be attributed to Em's come up as well?

Just for conversation purposes

It definitely could be. But in that case, we have the capability of revisiting his music during that time and redetermine if it was actually great or if it has aged well. It sure as hell was/did in my book. I still listen to TES, MMLP, and TSSLP to this day.

 

[a blinkin]

*Shrugs*

I dont feel like that's lo outlandish. Album is 20 tracks. While it contains some of his best writing and cleaning out my closet is still one old my favorite tracks, he still has tracks like Without Me and Square Dance

I will not stand for any Square Dance slander.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Wow. This Drake/Kanye is like watching 2 lame _'s fight. One loves Trump, the other wore blackface and doesn't race. Both slipped up with h0ez. It's too much material on both sides. And is Drake still ducking Pusha?

You can’t make this **** up.

 

[pmpdaddyrobford]

Arguable, sure. But we can argue anything if we have time. If we’re talking the past 10 years, we’re only discussing Relapse, Recovery, MMLP2, Revival, and now Kamikaze. Save for Revival, I’ve heard both negative and positive sentiments around all those albums. But that’s the case with literally every album put out in the hip hop genre. Kamikaze seems to be well received since it’s dropped.

I’m not rolling with the idea that Em is some lesser emcee. Son has a stretch of 3 consecutive classics in a discography of 10 albums. Save for one that’s undeniably bad album (Recovery), the totality of his catalogue is solid. I’m not about to be dismissive of Em like that. Especially not because disgruntled Magic chooses to vent his frustrations on the podcast. Fact of the matter is son is saying that the bars Em gave him doesn’t warrant a rap response... but over an hour and 30 minute rant is suitable.

That’s corny.

I just listened to the first LP... **** did not age well, at all. Has 3 songs I'd listen to again, not a classic

 

[tay1]

Maybe I need to listen but MMLP and SSLP aged fine to me.

 

[sohi 23]

At the end of the day Joe Budden still got murdered by Lil B.

 

[americangenius]

5 albums and 14 years of pure garbage. He hasn't been great since early 2000s and had chance after chance. At this point his catalogue is mostly terrible. When is the last time Em had a seriously great record? Or a real hit?

No one is bumps any post 2004 Em, let's be real(if that). How can you call him a goat with that weak discography? Jay, Nas, Kendrick, Ross, Drake all have better music over longer periods of time.