Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

Wayne first album dropped in 99 dawg. He ain't even get that good til Carter 1. Carter 1 and 2 are the only Wayne albums I still play today. All them goofy mixtape bars sound bad today cuz he recycled all of them. I just don't look at Wayne how a lot of y'all do. Never thought he some beat rapper alive.


Based on Em's first 3 albums he's higher on my list than Wayne.

Wayne didn’t start spiriting “goofy mixtape bars” til he went pop after loli pop.

He was already a decade in...and was known as a southern street rapper and member of the hot boyz before he went Pop.

Nobody was saying Wayne was “goofyl from 02-07. We gotta kill that RIGHT NOW.

Wavy drunk off mimosa's

Real talk...I’m sipping orange juice and rum right now :rollin

Close enough. Just sippin, waiting to geek to my guy Bobby Brown :hat
 
Wayne didn’t start spiriting “goofy mixtape bars” til he went pop after loli pop.

He was already a decade in...and was known as a southern street rapper and member of the hot boyz before he went Pop.

Nobody was saying Wayne was “goofyl from 02-07. We gotta kill that RIGHT NOW.



Real talk...I’m sipping orange juice and rum right now :rofl:

Close enough. Just sippin, waiting to geek to my guy Bobby Brown :pimp:
Wayne was not looked at as no southern street rapper back then. :lol BG was.

His music was always geared towards young and dumb ****. He was always a clever dude that just made nonsense sound good. That's why all these new rappers and new fans love him and are influenced by him.
 
Hell ****in no

Do I put him about Black Thought, G Rap or Monch

Nope

Much less more popular rappers

That’s your opinion of course. That’s the problem with debating music tho, we all here it differently and have different tastes and preferences. Everyone’s Top 10 is different for a reason.

I’d like to hear your explanation without looking at it subjectively tho. ie in terms of not only MC ability (writing, wordplay storytelling, flow and delivery, cadence, etc), but also cultural impact and impact on rap, classic albums, originality, relevance, sales and hits, etc.

Where exactly does Em land on your list? You named some great artists and Black Thought is in my top 10 too, but definitely not over Eminem considering his track record.
 
Wayne was not looked at as no southern street rapper back then. :lol: BG was.

His music was always geared towards young and dumb ****. He was always a clever dude that just made nonsense sound good. That's why all these new rappers and new fans love him and are influenced by him.

By the time Wayne came into his own...BG wasn’t BG anymore. You talking bout mid-late 90s BG. I’m talking about Wayne circa Squad up, Dedication, Carter, Suffix etc era. He was 100% looked at as a street rapper (in the same vein as TI/Jeezy etc). Hence them supposed to be “Boyz in da Hood”.

The last 10 years of Wayne made some of y’all forget who and what he was in his prime.



Thing about Wayne is there are quite a few versions of him. From the time he was introduced with the hot boys...up until lollipop...he was in a different lane of a rapper...and wasn’t looked at as “goofy” until later in his career...and the height of his commercial success but lows of his musicality.
 
Had anybody ever put serious thought into naming their top 5 dead or alive rappers? Dont even have to really rank but who do people feel are the overall 5 best to ever do it? (Counting groups too)
 
That’s your opinion of course. That’s the problem with debating music tho, we all here it differently and have different tastes and preferences. Everyone’s Top 10 is different for a reason.

I’d like to hear your explanation without looking at it subjectively tho. ie in terms of not only MC ability (writing, wordplay storytelling, flow and delivery, cadence, etc), but also cultural impact and impact on rap, classic albums, originality, relevance, sales and hits, etc.

Where exactly does Em land on your list? You named some great artists and Black Thought is in my top 10 too, but definitely not over Eminem considering his track record.

I don't give a **** about cultural impact or relevance.

Because you guys constantly leave off people like Melle Mel, Chuck, Ice Cube, Rakim, KRS, Kane, LL on your list. In fact you act like the first 20 years of hip hop didn't even exist.

Then give Eminem bonus points for it as if he invented or stated something.
 
Had anybody ever put serious thought into naming their top 5 dead or alive rappers? Dont even have to really rank but who do people feel are the overall 5 best to ever do it? (Counting groups too)
no order
pac
nas
rakim
slick rick
gfk
EDIT: gotta put chuck d in there
probably slide gfk or rakim off to replace him
 
My favorite rappers are mostly based on influences probably.
 
I don't give a **** about cultural impact or relevance.

Because you guys constantly leave off people like Melle Mel, Chuck, Ice Cube, Rakim, KRS, Kane, LL on your list. In fact you act like the first 20 years of hip hop didn't even exist.

Then give Eminem bonus points for it as if he invented or stated something.
new generation
hell some folks in my generation
never give it up to ll or cube :{
 
I don't give a **** about cultural impact or relevance.

Because you guys constantly leave off people like Melle Mel, Chuck, Ice Cube, Rakim, KRS, Kane, LL on your list. In fact you act like the first 20 years of hip hop didn't even exist.

Then give Eminem bonus points for it as if he invented or stated something.

You’re an old school and underground type of guy, we get it. But it’s 2018 bro come up for some sunshine and get with the times.

What rappers have contributed to the game is only one part of the equation if you’re really trying to look at what really makes someone the best.

And KRS and Rakim are in my top 10 btw :wink:
 
You mean they influenced you personally or the genre itself?
I don't know if age plays a factor, but I'm sure I heard or read somewhere that a younger human is more "malleable" and receptive to certain things.

Could have been the case for me, but for the wrong reasons.
 
If tracks like lose yourself , renegade, till I collapse, amityville, Stan, forgot about Dre

Didn’t age well for some of you, I don’t want to know what songs have aged well for y’all

How old were you when you started listening to Eminem?
 
Wayne has had a bit of a revival as of late. I’ve been bumpin his latest stuff a lot lately. He’s been on some snap s*** recently.
 
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