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Doesn't matter who was on top... All that matters was who was the INITIAL aggressor... the person "winning" the fight is not necessarily the aggressor. If GZ was the aggressor... and he was armed.... TM literally had the legal right to defend himself (with deadly force) against an armed man who was an aggressor towards him. The fact that TM was on top at any given point in the fight is COMPLETELY irrelevant... Whoever was screaming help is irrelevant too... Even still, why would an armed man be screaming help anyway... that makes no sense... Clearly he had no issue using his firearm... No need for him to be screaming help, he had all the help he needed on his hip
I agree, just cause TM may have been attacked first..if you did see him on top shouldnt matter if he was defending himself to begin with
but it seems like they're trying to tie them together
whoever was on top was the initiator. Not saying thats true but it feels like both sides are trying to make that point in their favor for the most part in this case
I see what you saying DWalk, BUT aggressor or not. There is a yell for help. You screaming for help indicates you are in danger, correct? I'm not screaming for help and throwing blows on top of someone. If I'm on top of someone and screaming for help (and those screams appeared to be distress screams from what I heard) I'm running away. Who screams for help and keeps punching? Natural instinct is to run away.
Pabs, even if he was attacked first, if he's on top AND feels he's in danger, he would throw a few punches in defense to get enough distance, right? That being said the way help was being screamed wouldn't really match that action. I just can't see someone screaming for help while feeling they are in danger AND in a position where they could flee, but stay in the path of danger. That's not even logical, that's biological survival skills.
I agree it doesnt add up
Them dismissing the expert testimony regarding the 911 call was huge for the defense