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She was being nominated and winning awards for being a Pop artist.
This is drastically different from the ODB, Puffy and Mase joints she was doing in the late 90's and way different from the straight up R&B she was making with Jermaine later.
She did a lil work with Babyface but until the mid-late 90's she was a pop music artist. She's talked how the people around her wanted to keep her in that pop lane but she started liking hip hop and wanted to work them.
Pop means popular.
She came out straight R&B. Vision of Love was her first single. That debuted on BET first, not MTV. After BET and urban radio made her her hot then she crossed over. That's why she was getting Soul Train awards.
What's pop about these..
A racially ambiguous girl singing. She made it popular.
Again, you're speaking on something you aren't familiar with.
and listen to the applause. Listen to the Vanilla Ice reaction.
Pop is also a music genre and that's what she was til the mid-late 90's. She's done interviews talking about how she switched.
You old enough to be familiar with those interviews.
Again all those hip hop collabs are from the mid-late 90's.
Post a hip hop collab she did from her 1st or 2nd album.
Ummmm, maybe because R&B artist didn't regularly work with rap artist before then. Janet didn't work with rappers until then either.
How many singers were working with rappers in 90-92?
There's a post Puff/Uptown influence on R&B music after they merged.
After she wasn't seen as a fluke and had proven herself she had more control of her career. What did she do? I know what she didn't have to do.
Say what?
New Jack Swing was one big Hip Hop/R&B gumbo. It was A LOT of singers around that time that carried themselves in the same vein as hip hop artist. Like you said Mariah was racial ambiguous so she could play both sides but she was more of a pop artist. Her whole look when she came out was real white girl-ish and she changed.
Carey's fifth studio album, Daydream, found the singer consolidating creative control over her career, leading to tensions with Columbia. The album featured a departure from the singer's allegiance to pop and gravitated heavily towards R&B and hip hop
Carey's subsequent musical releases followed the trend that began with Daydream. The singer's music began relying less on pop and adult contemporary-tinged balladry and instead incorporating heavy elements of hip-hop and R&B. On Butterfly, Carey collaborated with a bevy of producers other than Afanasieff, such as Sean Combs, Q-Tip, Missy Elliott and Jean Claude Oliver and Samuel Barnes from Trackmasters.[72] In mid-1997, after four years of marriage, Carey and Mottola separated. The singer described Mottola as increasingly controlling, and viewed her newfound independence as a new lease on life
I'm glad you said what, because you have no clue what I'm talking about.
Daydream was 95. Before that it was a Christmas album.
Her first albums were 90, 91 and 93
Mary came out in 92. She had one album post Mary, before Daydream. And Daydream produced what?
And again, how many artist were doing it before then? Please tell me all these singers who were working with rap acts.
New Jack swing was gumbo? It was? But where are all these Keith Sweat, Guy, Al B Sure rap songs? Collaborations? It was Teddy Riley working with both rap and R&B which he always did, but there was a separation. Most of the time it was the R&B artist rapping some lyrics that were written for them by a rapper. It had been that way since Blondie.
Then you had the Puff influence
And how things changed in music from 90 and 91 to 94 and 95 was a lot.
Who wrote what you're quoting? Stick to talking about stuff you were around for and actually listening to. Funny how you mentioned Joe and Future though.
Is that one Jagged Edge member still locked up?
Suited and booted
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