Proposed Law Would Block Porn in South Carolina, Unless You Pay a $20 Fee

 
We need Fiber out here so bad man, Century Link is killing me 
You should have fiber to the node or, dslam. There are very few areas where that doesnt apply. Fiber to the home wont be coming for awhile because of the cost of installing it. Only brand new developments are getting fiber to the home. With vectoring and g.fast, copper aint going anywhere, anytime soon. I should know, I work for Centurylink, lol. And dont plan on Google fiber coming anytime soon, they dont wanna do the work for the infrastructure. They just wanna use existing dark fiber and no one is giving that up. They wanna test wireless 1gb speed but the band or frequency need to send it, is reserved for military communication.
 
Traditional copper definitely getting washed in the near future, famb...

Only thing saving it is DOCSIS, and that got its limits...

But to be fair... On the corporation side of net neutrality, charging these heavy data websites could be beneficial to the customer, because it forces sites like Netflix to step their network game up...

Hear me out... 10 Mbps is OD if you're legitimately getting 10 up / down...

If it's going slow, you don't say "******* Netflix needs to step their servers up"

You say "Comcast is balls"

So Netflix isn't inventivized to step their side of the bargain up b/c y'all not gonna blame them...

If Netflix has a paid lane, sort of like an HOV, then Comcast wouldn't have the massive capex, which means they can charge lower and undercut competitors...
 
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Traditional copper definitely getting washed in the near future, famb...

Only thing saving it is DOCSIS, and that got its limits...

But to be fair... On the corporation side of net neutrality, charging these heavy data websites could be beneficial to the customer, because it forces sites like Netflix to step their network game up...

Hear me out... 10 Mbps is OD if you're legitimately getting 10 up / down...

If it's going slow, you don't say "******* Netflix needs to step their servers up"

You say "Comcast is balls"

So Netflix isn't inventivized to step their side of the bargain up b/c y'all not gonna blame them...

If Netflix has a paid lane, sort of like an HOV, then Comcast wouldn't have the massive capex, which means they can charge lower and undercut competitors...

I wouldn't call 10 down overkill at all, especially in a multiperson home.

Couple in the fact we're slowly transitioning from 1080p -> 4k ...

Also considering the incorporation of data caps, **** ISPs.
 
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Traditional copper definitely getting washed in the near future, famb...

Only thing saving it is DOCSIS, and that got its limits...

But to be fair... On the corporation side of net neutrality, charging these heavy data websites could be beneficial to the customer, because it forces sites like Netflix to step their network game up...

Hear me out... 10 Mbps is OD if you're legitimately getting 10 up / down...

If it's going slow, you don't say "******* Netflix needs to step their servers up"

You say "Comcast is balls"

So Netflix isn't inventivized to step their side of the bargain up b/c y'all not gonna blame them...

If Netflix has a paid lane, sort of like an HOV, then Comcast wouldn't have the massive capex, which means they can charge lower and undercut competitors...
​It's gonna be around longer than you think... I started out laying fiber infrastructure for residential in '99.  I said copper would be gone by 2006.  It's 2017 and copper is STILL around.  You have no idea how cheap telecom companies are when it comes to spending money on infrastructure.  Look at what they've done with copper...you can now get 100-200mbps on 30-40 year old copper plant.  It'll be around longer than you think, fam.

10mbps is NOT OD, sorry fam.  Not unless, you've got it going to a single device. 

Netflix wouldn't need to step their servers up, they'd pay the companies who deliver their content, like Level 3, to improve how they deliver the content.

No matter if Netflix has a "paid lane" or not, if Comcast has a data cap, that paid lane is moot for you, the customer.

So much wrong in this post...
 
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I wouldn't call 10 down overkill at all, especially in a multiperson home.

Couple in the fact we're slowly transitioning from 1080p -> 4k ...

Also considering the incorporation of data caps, **** ISPs.
​Not to mention, wifi home alarms, Ring doorbells, etc...
 
​It's gonna be around longer than you think... I started out laying fiber infrastructure for residential in '99.  I said copper would be gone by 2006.  It's 2017 and copper is STILL around.  You have no idea how cheap telecom companies are when it comes to spending money on infrastructure.  Look at what they've done with copper...you can now get 100-200mbps on 30-40 year old copper plant.  It'll be around longer than you think, fam.

10mbps is NOT OD, sorry fam.  Not unless, you've got it going to a single device. 

Netflix wouldn't need to step their servers up, they'd pay the companies who deliver their content, like Level 3, to improve how they deliver the content.

No matter if Netflix has a "paid lane" or not, if Comcast has a data cap, that paid lane is moot.

So much wrong in this post...

I always laugh when people try to make assumptions about others especially over the Internet... Like their the only one that has any knowledge on the subject or working in telecom.

Probably didn't think you would come across someone who actually buys and sells telecom companies for a living and lives in board rooms where the type of decisions are actually made, and not executing orders.

:lol:

Bringing up data caps like that has ANYTHING to do with what we're talking about to sound like you're a guru.

And not thinking Netflix has any control over their delivered content speeds or a TRUE 10 Mbps connection wouldn't be sufficient... :lol:

Your opinion was nulled when you thought something as expensive as capex for fiber in the early 2000s would've replaced a nationwide copper network.




You know what doe... You got it famb. Pleigh on, pleigh boi.
 
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Your opinion was nulled when you used the wrong tense of their, there and they're but... pleigh on , pleigh boi.  I got 18 years in this game, in the dirt, not a boardroom.  You say you buy and sell telecom companies... then you'd know all about vectoring and g.fast to know copper aint going anywhere but... pleigh on pleigh boi.  You got it...  You haven't rebutted any of my facts but... pleigh on, pleigh boi.  You can know the ins and outs of the boardroom, I know the ins and outs of the field, what gets delivered to customers and how.  Oh, and before I forget...I didnt make any assumptions about you, pleigh boi.  I simply said what you typed was wrong. and psst... they already had the plans in the works to ripout the POTS switches in the CO's and go fiber before we even started laying it so, yeah, we all thought the copper would be gone.  Miss me, son.
 
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​It's gonna be around longer than you think... I started out laying fiber infrastructure for residential in '99.  I said copper would be gone by 2006.  It's 2017 and copper is STILL around.  You have no idea how cheap telecom companies are when it comes to spending money on infrastructure.  Look at what they've done with copper...you can now get 100-200mbps on 30-40 year old copper plant.  It'll be around longer than you think, fam.

10mbps is NOT OD, sorry fam.  Not unless, you've got it going to a single device. 

Netflix wouldn't need to step their servers up, they'd pay the companies who deliver their content, like Level 3, to improve how they deliver the content.

No matter if Netflix has a "paid lane" or not, if Comcast has a data cap, that paid lane is moot.

So much wrong in this post...

I always laugh when people try to make assumptions about others especially over the Internet... Like their the only one that has any knowledge on the subject or working in telecom.

Probably didn't think you would come across someone who actually buys and sells telecom companies for a living and lives in board rooms where the type of decisions are actually made, and not executing orders.

:lol:

Bringing up data caps like that has ANYTHING to do with what we're talking about to sound like you're a guru.

And not thinking Netflix has any control over their delivered content speeds or a TRUE 10 Mbps connection wouldn't be sufficient... :lol:

Your opinion was nulled when you thought something as expensive as capex for fiber in the early 2000s would've replaced a nationwide copper network.




You know what doe... You got it famb. Pleigh on, pleigh boi.

If a person buys and sells car companies, does that automatically mean they know how to fix a car? :rolleyes

He refuted all of your points with his experience. This reply makes you look very immature. If people like you are running things behind the scenes like you say you are, its no wonder telecom companies are a mess.

Telecom companies are extremely cheap. If you know anything about the history of telecoms in the U.S., then you'll know that the Telecommunications Act of 1996 was meant to do exactly what SuperQ SuperQ described in his post (that is, a complete upgrade of our infrastructure by the mid/late 2000s.) A major reason why that hasn't happened is because while the act has many provisions on telecommuniciations services (i.e. telephones,) it makes a distinction for information services (i.e. internet.) That distinction allows companies to classify themselves in a way that lets them bypass the mandates placed on telecom infrastructure, which is why most ISPs do the least amount of infrasturcture work as possible to keep their costs down. Ask any of the senior level network architects in one of those telecom companies you've bought and/or sold.

:lol: x :smh:
 
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It's only $20. :rolleyes Like that will break me.

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I's not the money they want, they just want you name and address.
 
I wouldn't call 10 down overkill at all, especially in a multiperson home.

Couple in the fact we're slowly transitioning from 1080p -> 4k ...

Also considering the incorporation of data caps, **** ISPs.
I used to have 10 mb/s down. It was alright but I definitely wasn't really satisfied with its performance while console gaming.

I've been a customer with my ISP for over a decade and they gradually gave upgrades to my internet speed for free over the years.

It has been upgraded to around 190mb/s download and 25mb/s upload now. Considering I use the internet a lot for my income, which often involves the use of programs that are quite strenuous on my internet idk if I could ever go back to speed below 100.

Don't really have much reason to either, my internet bill is €75 for fibre-optic internet with 190mb/s down and 25mb/s up with no monthly data limit.
 
Traditional copper definitely getting washed in the near future, famb...

Only thing saving it is DOCSIS, and that got its limits...

But to be fair... On the corporation side of net neutrality, charging these heavy data websites could be beneficial to the customer, because it forces sites like Netflix to step their network game up...

Hear me out... 10 Mbps is OD if you're legitimately getting 10 up / down...

If it's going slow, you don't say "******* Netflix needs to step their servers up"

You say "Comcast is balls"

So Netflix isn't inventivized to step their side of the bargain up b/c y'all not gonna blame them...

If Netflix has a paid lane, sort of like an HOV, then Comcast wouldn't have the massive capex, which means they can charge lower and undercut competitors...


Ok, ok... Lemme go back through this again and rebut because @handullz does have some good talking points and I did get a little heated when he said I made assumptions and tried to clown on the fiber tip but... Im not here for the #NTbeef or the BS so, first lemme apologize for getting out of my body a little.


I still stand by my statement that copper isnt going anywhere anytime soon. It just isnt. If you buy and sell telecom companies like you say, then youd know the massive cost to rip out the copper and replace it with fiber, especially in underground residential areas. Even if they left the old copper in the ground and trenched in new fiber for the last mile, the capex associated with it is ridiculous. The only way this is gonna happen anytime soon is when one of the big boy companies decides to pony up the cash to open up new trenches, then youll see all the competitors piggyback off all of their permits. This is the EXACT reason why Google Fiber pulled out of the PHX area. In aerial areas, its a lot easier because you can just overlash and, voila, you have fiber to the home. Not to mention the cost of hanging new aerial fiber drops, retrofitting ONTs to homes and so forth.

I also stand by my statement that 10mbps is not "OD" as you say it is. Here is why I say that. Netflix alone requires 3-5mbps to stream to one device. Even if every piece of equipment is talking at a 10mbps speed, youd have 5-7mbps left over for surfing and whatnot. For a single man, yes that cool but a family? Online gaming? Multiple device streaming?

I do agree with you to a point about you saying that no one blames Netflix. Most people would say that but... When you have a problem streaming Netflix, but can stream FXnow, Sling, etc just fine, people are smart enough to go "oh, Netflix is having problems let me stream something else". If that problem goes on long enough, they lose susbscriptions and THAT would be their incentive to upgrade their servers and get on Level 3 to better how the content is being delivered. I do see your point about if Netflix had a "HOV" lane, that it could be beneficial to customers because companies wouldnt have the capex but, do you really think that cost is gonna be passed down to us, the consumer?

Again, @handullz my bad bruh. If youre down for a little banter, lets talk
 
Yall pay that 20 if yall want. Then ya name go on a list that says you are allowed to watch porn. They'll say its confidential then boom, some one hacks it now you're known as a scum for paying for porn.
 
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Yall pay that 20 if yall want. Then ya name go on a list that says you are allowed to watch porn. They'll say its confidential then boom, some one hacks it now you're known as a scum for paying for porn.
This adjacent to the recent South Park season. Next thing younlnow ya whole entire search history gonna be public :lol:
 
no porn is worth even $1 let alone 20. that some next level **** if u pay that much. midas well pay 20 for real life booty.


$20 is like 3 months of xbox live or a data plan...or some sweats at uniqlo.




....or an entree at cheesecake factory
 
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My question still remains, how are they gonna monitor after market sales?

eBay, Craigslist, forum classified sections.... ect.
 
My question still remains, how are they gonna monitor after market sales?

eBay, Craigslist, forum classified sections.... ect.
Probably sneak in a monitoring program to the next software update of any device you use to access the internet.
 
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