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Originally Posted by NikeAirsNCrispyTees
Originally Posted by mases apprentice
Originally Posted by NikeAirsNCrispyTees
Sounds like a piece of !@!!.
Coilovers alone means that the person wanted a lower ride, but didn't realize that properly lowering a vehicle and keeping the body aligned and in decent shape requires a LOT more than just coilovers/springs/whatever.
The fact that there's no brand names tells me that they were probably whatever the flavor of the week was at AutoZone.
No info on transmission other than that it's manual (at 90k miles).
"Exhaust system"? He doesn't know what part of the exhaust? Headers? Cat back? Coffee can muffler? Is back pressure going to be an issue?
New brakes, but no other info on them?
Sounds like someone who thinks they're ready for a race but doesn't know the first thing about cars other than that they need to be low and have tow hooks.
I'd offer $700. Remember that mods do not add value (in this case). With just the coilovers having been on the car, the body might not even be squared.
If you want a modded car, buy a stock on in good condition and go from there. The mods on that car total less than $1k brand new anyways assuming they're not the cheapest possible parts.
Sorry if that's disappointing— just don't want a fellow NT'er to get shafted.
I have a feeling you have no idea what your talking about. Even without the mods, the shell alone is worth 600-1000. with a motor and ****** 2-3k is more then reasonable.
and you are straight talking gibberish about coilovers not properly "keeping the body aligned" or what ever B.s. coilovers alone are worth more then 500 dollars. and is a way better idea then Springs. Coilovers on any car should keep the car "aligned"(of course with alignment after installation) LOL like keepz said its a D series motor, its not going anywhere and it can take alot of things thrown at it. Is back pressure gunna be an issue HAHAHAHAHA. even if it has new brakes (probably pads) its still a expensive he doesnt have to make.
eyeseesoles should test drive the car to see if there are any CEL, how the clutch is, and how the transmission shift. No whining, shifts are precise, and motor runs well (no leaky fluids or squeals. get a vehicle history report to see if there were any prior accidents.
Basic suspension knowledge. A car's geometry from the factory is built to be squared so that the body only moves up and down— not laterally or longitudinally. When you alter one part of that (i.e. ride height), you have to alter other things too in order to keep the geometry straight. Things like a panhard rod are generally necessary. Even if the body is only moving 1/2" from side to side, if it's been doing that for the life of the car (90k miles) you can guarantee that at the very least you probably have some bolts backing themselves out. I agree that coilovers are much better than springs, but lowering a car properly involves more than renting a spring compressor and throwing a new part in there. If that's "straight gibberish" to you, then maybe you should reconsider blindly defending some random strangers car just so you can take a crack at someone trying to warn another NTer about the possible underlying problems.
Even on a late 90s JDM motor, throwing an "exhaust system" on there can create compression problems, especially given how small the motor is. Having even mildly low compression on 1 of 4 cylinders is enough to make me turn down a $3700 car and move on to another one. This goes back to the whole thing where if you alter one thing, you need to alter the other parts so that they work together. With few exceptions, no part on a car can just be swapped out for some other random part without it affecting something else.
As far as the brakes, he didn't have to make the "expensive" [sic], but if he did and perhaps thought he "upgraded" them, but is in fact destroying the brake lines or wheels in the process, that's something I would be concerned about. Remember, we're talking about someone who added tow hooks to their car strictly for appearance. This isn't beyond the realm of possibilities.
All I'm saying EyeSeeSoles is be careful when you go look, poke around under the hood, check the dipstick, check fuses, look under wheel wells, and stick your head under the rear end with a flashlight and take a good look at everything. As to see receipts for the parts and work. If receipts are missing for parts, you have to remember that those parts could have come off another car with 90k miles before it went on his.
First of all, you're still talking gibberish, go to any car forum and say that and you'll get flamed. Coilovers installed right will act much better as the ride will be much stiffer. idk what side to side stuff your talking about. it would actually be much better then stock suspension. There are no downfalls on coilovers besides harsher rides. plain and simple. Stop preaching your incorrect information. There are no underlying problems unless you need to rebuild the coilovers.
please learn about exhausts and what they do. google exhaust velocity. being that it is an old car, some piping or muffler may have been rusting. Most people think mufflers are exhausts.
How the hell can upgraded brakes(most likely pads) destroy the brake lines or wheels of the car. DUDE do you know what you are typing?
never give another person your advice for car information again. please tell me what you drive and what other car forums you are on.