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what's going on in here?
Anyway I finally got my first pair of Balmains. Will post photos when they arrive. My first purchase of 2014, which is pretty damn good for me (2.5 months).
Nice. What color?
Post pics of HIGH-END DESIGNER CLOTHING (pics)...............
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Nice. What color?
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Wake up and find out this is now the broke trolls thread.Don't bother wasting your time
rfx45 they don't get it. They either lack the ability to see facts outside of their own beliefs, or they are having a go with you since they can't afford anything in this thread. Most people think anything they aren't interested in is overpriced, and they want to tell you why you should agree with them. This self-affirmation is important for people, logic, detailed explanations and facts won't get in their way.
You can always expect those two trolling in this thread and a few in the shoes thread lol. They are the regulars lol, people just know who they are.
Anyway, some more Tshirt for them to talk about. Really like this print by Versus, this is szM and have a very slim fit, not too crazy about the material though, stretch cotton type.
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Let's get back to the pics... If some people don't get it they just don't get it... Like someone said before it's a personal preference thing and at the end of the day this is the High end designer clothing thread... but I know someone was asking about Rogue Biker denim a few pages back... I would definitely recommend sizing down... the waist on my Rogue's are h3lla loose... but they are still pretty good quality and I get a lot of compliments on them sorry for the crappy pic was moreso trying to get a picture of my shoes than the denim... this is the olive colorway
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Doesn't really prove any of your point though, it has nothing to do with "rappers" playing out Rolex as you stated. This has been Rolex's MO for decades.
And actually, almost everyone knows Hermes are the holy grail of bags, it's in womens top tier and it's in every womens pedestal while most just covet LV for it being LV. I really do not know any woman who doesn't know about Hermes.
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Couple of things for the spring:
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its all personal preference . people tend to forget that this is a message board based on the love of sneakers and the avg person would think that the fact that this forum even exist is ridiculous.
the type of person your probably thinking of that should be able to "afford" a $300 grey tee , probably wouldnt buy it anyway . most of these designers know their audience and vice versa .
things like that are always relative , just buy what you like and what you know you can afford....
the type of person your probably thinking of that should be able to "afford" a $300 grey tee , probably wouldnt buy it anyway . most of these designers know their audience and vice versa .
things like that are always relative , just buy what you like and what you know you can afford....
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I like Balmain Tees. The feel of the cotton is amazing.
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If you wanna believe its form the finest cotton in all the land thenHave you handled the tee itself? Felt it? Worn it? Again the gap for the dollar value is much farther than other items that are more complicated to make but there is a very distinct difference in the DD tee compared to others. Again not just in quality but also in fit and style. Alternatives are limited and yeah some may think "that looks like a cut-up old tee" but hey, that's what they are going for.
Really hate to repeat it but it feels like it isn't being heard. The cotton itself could be made and weaved from a more expensive factory, just like bed sheets thread counts, not all cottons are created equal. The wash on the tee, the cut, the style (hand cut? hand sewn?), etc... All those plays a role in that particular tee. Hanes tee are cut, sewn up and pressed by machines from the cheapest cotton they can find and then shipped to stores. WHere it is made plays a role too, China vs Italy/France/Japan. The tee simply went through more process to achieve the look and feel of the tee. I mean you guys could at least understand that, right?
Again I am not saying the tee itself is worth $300-$400 for everything that has been done to it but it isn't as simple as those Hanes tees. At the end of the day it is a tee but the process and material of getting to the end product aren't the same. Hell that Damir Doma tee has probably been through more process and work than the screen-printed Givenchy tees that cost $500-$700+.
Rolex is one of the most mass manufactured watches out there with one of the most generic movements but it is tiered over Omega when Omegas quality is better overall and in-house movements are much limited and specific and complicated. Rolex has marketed their watch by their history and perception it has created and the fact that they control their pricing. At this point, I am not even really sure if Rolex is 100% handmade like Patek or AP. Their movements are so mass manufactured that many compare it to an ETA 2824 movement, just simply mass produced.
Yes there is a big quality difference between $20 Timex and Rolex but if you really look at it, is the difference worth $8,000-$10,000?
But again, that example is the NEED vs WANT concept, not specifically to make it equal in the difference between each examples.
I guarantee though that it won't look or feel the same. I mean did you see the pic of the tee in the link? It doesn't look like much but it doesn't look like any tee you'll find at Uniqlo. Not going to defend how it looks because I know people will think it is ridiculous (tough it really shouldn't because well, style and all) but if you see how it looks, you aren't going to simply suggest Uniqlo.
At the end of the day, theres no amount of fine Egyptian cotton woven in a secret facility made of gold that can justify a plain tshirt bruh.
Theres a difference between a plain tshirt and something with an actual design (watch, shoes, hell a shirt with a print).
Companies making dudes look like suckers paying $300 for a white tee.
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Size down really? I need to try these on myself, the website said to size up as they run very small.
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Plain black Rick Owens Double layers Ts, $456, just because I like it.
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The irony in these posts....
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If you wanna believe its form the finest cotton in all the land then
At the end of the day, theres no amount of fine Egyptian cotton woven in a secret facility made of gold that can justify a plain tshirt bruh.
Theres a difference between a plain tshirt and something with an actual design (watch, shoes, hell a shirt with a print).
Companies making dudes look like suckers paying $300 for a white tee.
So again you just ignore what I wrote? The cotton doesn't have to be the most expensive there is but there were different processes I have written that a typical Uniqlo or Hanes tee wouldn't go through. Again have you clicked on the link? It isn't a typical tee, this really makes me suspect you didn't even bother looking because you'll see the tee actually has a different design than just some Hanes tee.
Why is it so hard to understand that a different factory in Italy would cost more to make anything than a factory in China? Why is it so hard to believe that a more expensive cotton is used than what Hanes uses? Why is it so hard to believe that the Damir tee was soaked, dyed, hand cut, hand sewn and actually designed (it doesn look like a goddamn regular tee, again I encourage you to look at the picture!) in comparison to the simply machine done Hanes tee? Is it hard to believe that the Damir tee feels so much different and so much better than the Hanes tee? Again these tee likely has more things done to it than a screen printed Givenchy shirt that cost twice as much but you appreciate the screen printed Virgin Mary on a tee? That really take originality? Again look at the damn tee and it has a certain look it tries to accomplish and it isn't the swap-meet-screen-print-tee look.
Is it really hard to understand that the tee has gone through more process and work thus costing more? Is it hard to understand that the brand also adds their mark-up and that is why they can sell almost all their items at 70% of and still make a profit? If you think $300 for a tee is being a sucker because they made money on you, they made just as much money on you for paying $600 for a shoe or $1500 for a suit or even Nike charging you $180 for some retroes that has crappy quality and really took no more originality because the design and style and mold are 15-20 years old.
I mean this is a simple concept. I am baffled at how some of you guys do not get it.
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Again you arent getting it either. Why bring up items that have an actual design? Jordans have a design, etc etc. Why even bring those things into the discussion.
All im saying is plain tshirts have no business being that expensive. Do they honestly need that many gimmicky treaments to warrant the cost? No. People pay for design, name, etc
What design is there in a plain tshirt? Texutres blah blah, NO. PLAIN tshirts and believe me ive seen plain shirts that cost rodiculous amounts. Those are the shirts I have problems with.
Gimmick gimmick gimmick.
Definition of letting the clothes wear you.
All im saying is plain tshirts have no business being that expensive. Do they honestly need that many gimmicky treaments to warrant the cost? No. People pay for design, name, etc
What design is there in a plain tshirt? Texutres blah blah, NO. PLAIN tshirts and believe me ive seen plain shirts that cost rodiculous amounts. Those are the shirts I have problems with.
Gimmick gimmick gimmick.
Definition of letting the clothes wear you.
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Again, it's not a plain tee.
Have you looked at it? It's not cut like a Hanes tee, it looks ripped and cut loose but the upper is still not big and baggy so it still fits in the shoulders w/o looking like some footlocker tall tee. That kind of cut takes thought and design. It's not a straight tee that you are thinking of. Again look and click on the link.
And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what the end product is, if they put a lot of process in it, even if it is only 100x in a dye job cycle, that is still 100x process/work that cost money to do. That is what you are not getting.
So you're saying if that tee is hand sewn it shouldn't cost extra even though they hired an extra person to sew it?
You really believe there aren't different levels and quality of cotton?
Add all those up along with the brand name and paying for the cost of the runway shows, brick and mortar stores, factories, etc... and you can see how the cost can climb up.
Have you looked at it? It's not cut like a Hanes tee, it looks ripped and cut loose but the upper is still not big and baggy so it still fits in the shoulders w/o looking like some footlocker tall tee. That kind of cut takes thought and design. It's not a straight tee that you are thinking of. Again look and click on the link.
And at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what the end product is, if they put a lot of process in it, even if it is only 100x in a dye job cycle, that is still 100x process/work that cost money to do. That is what you are not getting.
So you're saying if that tee is hand sewn it shouldn't cost extra even though they hired an extra person to sew it?
You really believe there aren't different levels and quality of cotton?
Add all those up along with the brand name and paying for the cost of the runway shows, brick and mortar stores, factories, etc... and you can see how the cost can climb up.
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Bruh.
Not at $300.
Theres obviously levels to making a shirt, but lets be serious, $300 tshirts are being bought for their name. No one cares at the end of the day how it was made, I understand the process gives it cost, but cmon bruh its a plain tshirt at the end of the day.
Anyways, carry on with the topic. We both have our opinions, were just gonna end up reiterating and clutter the topic.
Not at $300.
Theres obviously levels to making a shirt, but lets be serious, $300 tshirts are being bought for their name. No one cares at the end of the day how it was made, I understand the process gives it cost, but cmon bruh its a plain tshirt at the end of the day.
Anyways, carry on with the topic. We both have our opinions, were just gonna end up reiterating and clutter the topic.
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Last response but i clearly said name adds to the orice. You dont think Balenciaga, Gucci, LV, etc... Doesnt add a few dollars on other items?
I also admitted it is ridiculous but I know and understand how it can be priced that way. I personally wouldnt pay that much either. A $300 tee isnt even the most ridiculous thing out there when it comes to pricing basic items.
Up to this point, i dont think youve seen the tee yet so its really becomes pointless to argue if you wont even look at it.
Again thats what a luxury item get you, unnecessary process and whatnot. Again you are looking at it like its a Hanes tee with the tag switched when that isnt the case. Everybody have a different spending power too, to some a $500 for jeans is as expensive as it should get but there are $2000 pairs out there.
Im just saying dont ignore the process and if you are looking at a luxury items and expecting to find what you are paying for at retail then you will be extremely disappointed. Again there isa reason wholesale price in these items are like 20-30% of the retail price ands till make a profit. This is how business works and just because it is a tee you are completely ignoring it ni matter how much process, factory cost, workmanship, etc... I oint out.
So yeah I am done because some just simply do not understand how it all works, all you see is that its a tee and it couldnt possibly cost that much unless the designer just wants to charge as much as they can for it while completely ignoring everything else.
I also admitted it is ridiculous but I know and understand how it can be priced that way. I personally wouldnt pay that much either. A $300 tee isnt even the most ridiculous thing out there when it comes to pricing basic items.
Up to this point, i dont think youve seen the tee yet so its really becomes pointless to argue if you wont even look at it.
Again thats what a luxury item get you, unnecessary process and whatnot. Again you are looking at it like its a Hanes tee with the tag switched when that isnt the case. Everybody have a different spending power too, to some a $500 for jeans is as expensive as it should get but there are $2000 pairs out there.
Im just saying dont ignore the process and if you are looking at a luxury items and expecting to find what you are paying for at retail then you will be extremely disappointed. Again there isa reason wholesale price in these items are like 20-30% of the retail price ands till make a profit. This is how business works and just because it is a tee you are completely ignoring it ni matter how much process, factory cost, workmanship, etc... I oint out.
So yeah I am done because some just simply do not understand how it all works, all you see is that its a tee and it couldnt possibly cost that much unless the designer just wants to charge as much as they can for it while completely ignoring everything else.
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You're speaking of luxury items in whole, im talking about plain tshirts.
Now youre gonna say I dont understand.
Now youre gonna say I dont understand.
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Because you dont understand. Why cant luxury be applied to tees?
Again if they dye it 100x and cost $1 a dye but that is what they want to accomplish then of course the price will reflect that.
You dont seem to understand that, I mean does someone has to write the cost of each process per item step by step of the tees production to understand hiw the tee could cost more that much? I already listed a process of the two tees (Hanes vs. Damir) and how they differ. Hell just producing something in Italy versus in China will already multiply production cost.
The tee could easily cost $70-$100 to make on their end with a factory in Italy, more expensive cotton, the human that cuts and sew it together, the dye-dry-dye process, also take into account the markup from the other cost of the designer, etc... and charge $300 retail and store will be able to discount it to about $100 at most on sale and maybe $70-$100 when it goes on sale. Att he end both the brand and store make money (break close to even for the store when it goes on sale). Those numbers arent 100% accurate of course and at times it varies by the item but it something like that more or less.
That is what I dont see you understanding.
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At the end of the day, yes you will pay for the name and is still considered a "luxury" purchase even if it is as basic as a tee. You just cant try and out the exact value of what you get when paying retail because if you really look into it ands ee what these companies pay and actually charge you, youd feel ripped off on almost everything you buy.
Again if they dye it 100x and cost $1 a dye but that is what they want to accomplish then of course the price will reflect that.
You dont seem to understand that, I mean does someone has to write the cost of each process per item step by step of the tees production to understand hiw the tee could cost more that much? I already listed a process of the two tees (Hanes vs. Damir) and how they differ. Hell just producing something in Italy versus in China will already multiply production cost.
The tee could easily cost $70-$100 to make on their end with a factory in Italy, more expensive cotton, the human that cuts and sew it together, the dye-dry-dye process, also take into account the markup from the other cost of the designer, etc... and charge $300 retail and store will be able to discount it to about $100 at most on sale and maybe $70-$100 when it goes on sale. Att he end both the brand and store make money (break close to even for the store when it goes on sale). Those numbers arent 100% accurate of course and at times it varies by the item but it something like that more or less.
That is what I dont see you understanding.
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At the end of the day, yes you will pay for the name and is still considered a "luxury" purchase even if it is as basic as a tee. You just cant try and out the exact value of what you get when paying retail because if you really look into it ands ee what these companies pay and actually charge you, youd feel ripped off on almost everything you buy.
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Right.
Anyways, moving on.
Anyways, moving on.
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A plain tee is not a plain tee btw. Just wanna throw that out there
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Whatever. Like I said whatever is said is just gonna be ignored anyways.
Also just want to throw out there but less mass produced items also tends to cost more to make.
But whatever...
Anyways, Alexander Wang with leather knee detail trousers.
Also just want to throw out there but less mass produced items also tends to cost more to make.
But whatever...
Anyways, Alexander Wang with leather knee detail trousers.
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Balmain cargoe biker sweats
Want these Balmain shearling aviators but damn it'll get no use in SoCal.
Want these Balmain shearling aviators but damn it'll get no use in SoCal.
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I hate those pants by wang…The runway leather knee pants were 100X better. I actually called them up asking when they were going to release a week ago and they told me its been scrapped. I needed those!
I needed those!
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Yes, thats quite obvious friend.
Theres no point in a back and forth, thats why I stopped.
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I hate those pants by wang…The runway leather knee pants were 100X better. I actually called them up asking when they were going to release a week ago and they told me its been scrapped.
Pics? I forgot how they looked.
I wish I picked up the chino bikers from Balmain a season or two back.
The wool version was very nice too, hope they release it again in the near future.
