Police Kill Unarmed Teen In Ferguson, Missouri

[fantastic4our]

What is going on out there, man?

And the cop was off duty

 

[3stheluckynumbe]

What is going on out there, man?

And the cop was off duty

Repped for the avi.

 

[iamjusayn]

I been told dude up in here all that talking, mlk swag, n marching is a waste. It's been time to stand up and fight back. They have absolutely no respect for us Black folk. None!

Keep talking n protesting n you get this. All one person that was around when this took place today had to do was let off on the cop that shot n bet they think twice.

Where is ole boy that was ducked off in the grey regal in VA some years back? Bruh had like a military issued firearm letting off through a hole in his trunk. Need dudes like him right about now to go against these racist cops.

 

[fantastic4our]

What is going on out there, man?

And the cop was off duty

Repped for the avi.

the GOAT

 

[mwalker]

Damn this is some other **** , nothing but blood is about to be shed if these initial reports are true

 

[superblytrife]

I been told dude up in here all that talking, mlk swag, n marching is a waste. It's been time to stand up and fight back. They have absolutely no respect for us Black folk. None!

Keep talking n protesting n you get this. All one person that was around when this took place today had to do was let off on the cop that shot n bet they think twice.

Where is ole boy that was ducked off in the grey regal in VA some years back? Bruh had like a military issued firearm letting off through a hole in his trunk. Need dudes like him right about now to go against these racist cops.

You talking about the Beltway Sniper? 

No, we don't need him to do anything.  Besides, he's dead now.  

 

[delete1234]

Man...what? This can't be real life

 

[superb]

 
You talking about the Beltway Sniper? 

No, we don't need him to do anything.  Besides, he's dead now.  

naw DC sniper

 

[juice andretti]

Just throwing it out there...

A ham sandwich is cop slang for a unregistered gun they carry to plant on ppl.

Dont know if it pertains here but as soon as i read sandwich, thats what went through my mind.

 

[superblytrife]

 

You talking about the Beltway Sniper? 

No, we don't need him to do anything.  Besides, he's dead now.  

naw DC sniper

Same thing, brah.

 

[AEA18]

All these deflectors, racists, and cop apologists thought the anger and protest were bad before are in for a rude awakening.

I truly hope the Cardinals continue to win so that the media has no choice but to cover the protests.


http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_2d5a8c2a-97db-5cec-a477-1130d7d26f7e.html

"officer was patrolling the neighborhood for a private firm at the time of the shooting."

 

[7thave btn 31stn33rd st]

Off-Duty STL cop shoots Black male 17 times last night SMH.





Unrest in St. Louis After Police Officer Shoots, Kills Man

https://gma.yahoo.com/unrest-st-lou...kills-man-061859179--abc-news-topstories.html

The officer approached a group of men. One of the men took off running, Dotson said, so the officer pursued. Dotson said the suspect approached the officer in an "aggressive" manner, with a physical altercation occurring. The man then turned and fired three rounds at the officer before his gun jammed, Dotson said.

Always the same story with these stupid *****.

 

[fontaine]

Off-Duty STL cop shoots Black male 17 times last night SMH.





Unrest in St. Louis After Police Officer Shoots, Kills Man

https://gma.yahoo.com/unrest-st-lou...kills-man-061859179--abc-news-topstories.html
Always the same story with these stupid *****.

wait... What?

So he ran... Because the off duty cop approached them.

Why run if he was an off duty cop?

Them after he chased him, there was a physical altercation...

Then dude got away... Then the dude turned around and shot 3 times... Before his gun jammed..

So the cop let off 16 of the 18 bullets in his 9mm Into the dude?

Do you j know how long it takes to shoot 16 bullets out of a 9mm?

 

[oneilmatt]

Don't see the problem with this one. The cop was working a department approved PSC job while off- duty. He approached a group of men acting suspiciously. One ran, turned, approached and fired 3 rounds in an attempt to murder the cop. His gun failed and he got blown away. He got done to him exactly what he intended to do to the cop. Justice at its finest.

Interestingly, the race of the cop hasn't been said. If he were white surely it would have already been international news.

 

[oneilmatt]

It's so simple, guys. If you shoot at someone with a gun and don't kill them, you are going to die. That's it. The cop did exactly what he should have done and what he had the right to do. 16 shots? Maybe that's overkill, but when you almost got murdered by some punk you better believe that adrenaline and anger are going to be on unreal levels. 

 

[dropten]

wait... What?

So he ran... Because the off duty cop approached them.

Why run if he was an off duty cop?

Them after he chased him, there was a physical altercation...

Then dude got away... Then the dude turned around and shot 3 times... Before his gun jammed..

So the cop let off 16 of the 18 bullets in his 9mm Into the dude?

Do you j know how long it takes to shoot 16 bullets out of a 9mm?

Doesn't take long. A matter of seconds actually.
Im sorry, but if dude shot at the cop (or anyone), then he deserved to die.

 

[cashbanks]

Homes fired that many shots to make sure he's the only one telling a story seems like protocol at this point.

-Get into a sketchy situation with a black man shoot till he's dead tell whatever story you want, repeat.

 

[fontaine]

Doesn't take long. A matter of seconds actually.
Im sorry, but if dude shot at the cop (or anyone), then he deserved to die.

the time to shoot 16 out of a 9 is extensive...

And WHY are y'all taking the story at face value?

Haven't we learned this before?

I mean.. Is it OUT of the realm of possibility that ol' buddy didn't even have a gun, and just whipped the cops ***, who probably didn't even identify himself?

Like...

This is the same area where they removed their badges to keep from being identified for if/when they used violence against peaceful protestors...

The same place that brought out tanks and dogs...

The same place that is in the process of covering up a murder for a cop where there are SEVERAL eyewitnesses AND video of the aftermath PLUS sound of it actually happening, and a ballistic report that proves everything.

Lettuce be cereal here.

 

[skurrtskurrt29]

It's so simple, guys. If you shoot at someone with a gun and don't kill them, you are going to die. That's it. The cop did exactly what he should have done and what he had the right to do. 16 shots? Maybe that's overkill, but when you almost got murdered by some punk you better believe that adrenaline and anger are going to be on unreal levels. 

Except that "punk" reportedly only had a sandwich in his hand when he was tazed and shot 16 times.

But ya know, that adrenaline was going and everything. So it was "justified."

 

[oneilmatt]

Reported by whom? His buddies? That's reliable. So the cop tazed him, pulled out his gun, shot him 18 times, pulled out a fake gun, ran over to him, shot 3 times, planted it, and called for backup. Gotcha.

 

[cashbanks]

Reported by whom? His buddies? That's reliable. So the cop tazed him, pulled out his gun, shot him 18 times, pulled out a fake gun, ran over to him, shot 3 times, planted it, and called for backup. Gotcha.

and a cops story is reliable?

Scratch that an off duty cop who just emptied a clip on someone yeah he wouldn't have any reason to lie.

 

[oneilmatt]

It's hearsay for now. To automatically assume the cop is lying and that he gunned down an innocent bystander is hilarious and ignorant.

 

[delete1234]

And in alignment with history

 

[skurrtskurrt29]

Reported by whom? His buddies? That's reliable. So the cop tazed him, pulled out his gun, shot him 18 times, pulled out a fake gun, ran over to him, shot 3 times, planted it, and called for backup. Gotcha.

And who reported that the teen had a gun on him and decided to turn around and shoot the cop after he was already running? Those good ol reliable boys at the St. Louis Police department? **** outta here bro.

Every single time a black man is killed by a cop, without failure, there's the same narrative of the black man being overly aggressive or straight up attacking the cop. Then all of a sudden this killing is justified, and you dummies fall for it every time

You can't believe that black people with all the ******** we face from these cops can continue to be that ******* stupid...oh wait a minute, yes you do

 

[julius wrek]

[h1]Witnesses say he was tased first, then 16 shots followed[/h1]

Spoiler: Talking Points Memo article by Josh Marshall

We're trying to put together the basic details of what happened. But quick overview: in the city of St Louis tonight, a member of the St Louis Metropolitan Police shot and killed an 18 year old man, Vonderrick Myers Jr., after an encounter, the nature of which remains in dispute.

Police say the dead man had a gun and fired at the officer; witnesses and family members dispute that.

The shooting took place near the Missouri Botanical Gardens. (Here's the early report  from the Post-Dispatch.)

As chance would have it, a close family member of mine lives a block away from where the shooting took place. They were able to talk with witnesses and bystanders and family members of Myers' who were standing around the scene of the shooting no more than 15 minutes after it happened. The accounts are mixes of eyewitness accounts and accounts that circulated through the small crowd - in other words, hearsay, but close on the events as they happened. This version of the story is inevitably cut through with hearsay and needs to be viewed in that context. But it is notable and important because it comes from the first minutes after the shooting took place.

The two salient points from these accounts are that they a) disputed that the dead man, Myers, had a gun and b) suggested that Myers happened upon a chase already underway as he walked out of a corner store.

The Post-Dispatch  has this account, which overlaps in some ways but differs dramatically in others ...

Police said the uniformed officer was working a secondary job for a private security company when he encountered four pedestrians in the Shaw neighborhood and stopped to talk with them at about 7:30 p.m.

The four fled and the officer chased one, a man believed to be in his 20s, Assistant Chief Alfred Atkins said.

The man the officer was chasing jumped from some bushes and struggled with the officer, Atkins said. The man then pulled a gun and fired at the officer, Atkins said. The officer returned fire and fatally shot the man.

The Post-Dispatch  account suggests that one of the men being chased, hide behind some bushes and then jumped out at the police officer, triggering the fatal confrontation. Witnesses and family members say the dead man happened on the chase - one he had nothing to do with.

You can see how these might be fragmentary accounts of the same events. Perhaps the police officer thought Myers was one of the people they were already chasing and acted on that basis. Other details are too contradictory to be from two truthful (or nearly truthful) accounts of the same events. For instance, at least some eyewitnesses said the dead man was tased prior to being shot. That either happened or it didn't. It can't be reconciled with the initial police accounts of what happened.

This is what I was told not  by an eyewitness but by someone who'd spoken to eyewitnesses and family members within about 15 minutes of the shooting. So it's a pastiche of various accounts.

He was leaving the corner store with a sandwich, a pickle and some other food. When he came outside, the sec officer had already been chasing after some other kids, he stopped chasing those kids and told him to stop, too. Instead he ran across the street into the gangway. The sec officer chased him, tased him. Shot him 16 times. The people standing outside as the cops were investigating were saying "they're gonna plant a gun on him."

That is quite different from this statement just released by the St Louis Metropolitan Police Department.

I want to stress: everything here should be taken as tentative and subject to change as more becomes known. But we do appear to have the kernel of two very different accounts of what transpired.

Witness accounts: