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Those cats don't announce themselves...sometimes this is what happens.
Avvy to post ratio off the chartsAmazing how any of you can justify this at all.
Murdering a black man or murdering a police officer is still murder.
Y'all are just as sick and twisted as the people who ride for cops no matter what.
Avvy to post ratio off the charts
Some of y'all are really saying that WORDS, "talking reckless" and "driving up to him" are a reason to start shooting?
Wow.
You're making assumptions about the cop involved in this incident based on your own personal opinion of undercover cops in general. They approached the guy because they suspected him of having a gun, which he obviously did. Considering they never even got out of the car, it's not like they just picked the guy out of nowhere and decided to stop and frisk him. If you've lived in NYC, you know what an unmarked police car looks like. You honestly think this guy saw 2 white guys in an unmarked police car and thought he was getting ran up on by anyone other than the police?Dude didn't know the undercover was a cop.
Undercover prolly was talking that junk and the guy he was talking to happened to be the wrong one.
Not justifying anything, all I'm saying is that undercovers have a history of inflammatory behavior. Instead of playing it cool and looking for crime they create a crime by baiting and provoking.
It isn't reported whether or not the officers identified themselves when they approached the suspect.
All that we know is they suspected him of having something, possibly a firearm, in his waistband.
With the climate of gun control in NYC folks don't carry firearms unless they're a jack or they got crazy beef.
Dude prolly thought he was getting ran up on.
Not a justification, it's just that plainclothes cops in NYC have a long illustrious history of line stepping.
I agree. Lock up the shooter, throw away the key. No dambs given from me hereI just don't get people on either side lumping bad apples together when both of them scream about being stereotyped.
Im confused who died? And why?
I thought a random black dude got shot by a cop
Undercover approaches armed felon. Felon shoots undercover in the head. Undercover diesIm confused who died? And why?
I thought a random black dude got shot by a cop
Some of y'all are really saying that WORDS, "talking reckless" and "driving up to him" are a reason to start shooting?
Wow.
You're making assumptions about the cop involved in this incident based on your own personal opinion of undercover cops in general. They approached the guy because they suspected him of having a gun, which he obviously did. Considering they never even got out of the car, it's not like they just picked the guy out of nowhere and decided to stop and frisk him. If you've lived in NYC, you know what an unmarked police car looks like. You honestly think this guy saw 2 white guys in an unmarked police car and thought he was getting ran up on by anyone other than the police?
Wow, generalize much? Since you seemed to have been there and are certain the cop who got shot and died talked reckless, what else happened?In this case, that's what happened.
Nobody is justifying the incident but again these undercovers oft act like thugs and gangsters.
If they didn't even end up being cops you wouldn't even care.
Folks can kill each other left & right and nobody bats an eye.
In the end the NYPD has a history of artificially perpetuating crime rather than actually stopping crime organically.
Lofty arrest stats mean not a damn thing.
It's time for change in policies and practices.
At days end Im not going to sit here and cry over one dead cop when many innocent civilians have died at the hands of this police department.
In the end BS practices get BS results and violence begets violence. They suspected dude had a gun, at that point what is there to talk about or exchange words over? At that point the charade should have been over and they should have identified themselved as police.
Wow, generalize much? Since you seemed to have been there and are certain the cop who got shot and died talked reckless, what else happened?
Where are you getting this supposed conversation from?But based on the information we have they engaged in a conversation with the shooter after already having noticed a firearm in his waistband.
Nobody was talking. The cops pulled up behind him and Moore shot them in their cars
Where are you getting this supposed conversation from?
All I've read is that
1 They saw him adjusting his waistband
2 They pulled up behind him and told him to stop
3 They were shot at
They didn't even exit their vehicles
Suspect was told to stop after they saw him adjust himself suspiciously. Cops were then shot in their carIncorrect.
Reread the article.
They pulled up on him and I quote "exchanged words".
Then the shooting occurred.
Again I ask, what needed to be said except "let me see your hands" with guns drawn?
Suspect was told to stop after they saw him adjust himself suspiciously. Cops were then shot in their car
http://abcnews.go.com/US/nypd-cop-brian-moore-dies-saturday-shooting-queens/story?id=30792888
Whatever happened, I don't really care. They're gonna throw the book at the dude anyway
1. if the police said stop to him... that is an exchange of words (probably didnt just say "stop" but a sentence telling him to stand still, or come over)So now we have two conflicting reports.
One saying words were exchanged, another reporting the cops ordering the shooter to stop (which is odd in itself, what cop sits in his car asking an individual suspected to have a firearm on his person instead of getting out guns drawn ordering to see hands?).
1. if the police said stop to him... that is an exchange of words (probably didnt just say "stop" but a sentence telling him to stand still, or come over)
2. The cops didn't have visibility of the gun... they probably didnt wanna run with guns out and it ended up being just a random guy adjusting his belt or something.