PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE - ISRAELI-TERRORISM AWARENESS THREAD

[me love nutella]

I have some Jewish friends who are disgusted by the actions of Israel.  I also have some that are adamantly echoing "Hamas started this...and we're fighting back." I try to stay quiet, then again I don't know what kind of friendship it is if we can't really speak our minds right?

That's the thing. Hamas did not start it. Their rockets were not launched just because. Israel's operation in the West Bank of taking in prisoners which were released from the prisoner exchange with the Israeli soldier, assassinations of a few Palestinians, taking Hamas members prisoners, etc. provoked Hamas to do rocket reprisals.

 

[me love nutella]

I'm not sure what Syria has to do with Iran funding Hezbollah. Can you explain how supporting Israel's enemies = ww3... But Iran has been funding and training Hezbollah for decades.

Forgot to mention to you before, Syria is part of that alliance. It is Iran- Hezbollah-Syria. As previously mentioned, Hamas was part of it, but then refusing to support Syria's Assad regime in the Syrian civil war soured the relationship with the others. Iran's weapons and funding to Hezbollah is transferred through Syria. Syria used to occupy Lebanon and supported Hezbollah during the Lebanese civil war but pulled out in the 2000s. They still meddle in Lebanon's internal conflicts still supporting Hezbollah. Hezbollah is very pro-Syrian.

 

[me love nutella]

@Bravelude,

Sorry, we're not heartless like you. What does the fact this is the reality of war have to do with caring about what is happening and saying it is outright wrong to kill civilians?

You don't care and want to turn the other cheek, fine. But get off our backs then.

Hope you never get to experience what the Gazans are. As flyeed said, you'd be crying a different tone

 

[victor page]

The complete lack of empathy some of you have is disgusting.

 

[sole vintage]

 

[ronsweedroom]

I'm not sure what Syria has to do with Iran funding Hezbollah. Can you explain how supporting Israel's enemies = ww3... But Iran has been funding and training Hezbollah for decades.

Nutella beat me to it

Forgot to mention to you before, Syria is part of that alliance. It is Iran- Hezbollah-Syria. As previously mentioned, Hamas was part of it, but then refusing to support Syria's Assad regime in the Syrian civil war soured the relationship with the others. Iran's weapons and funding to Hezbollah is transferred through Syria. Syria used to occupy Lebanon and supported Hezbollah during the Lebanese civil war but pulled out in the 2000s. They still meddle in Lebanon's internal conflicts still supporting Hezbollah. Hezbollah is very pro-Syrian.

 

[createdestroy]

So if Iran can support safely Hezbollah for so many years even during warfare between Hezbollah and Israel, why are people attributing lack of Palestinian support to the initiation of ww3 or being "scared"...

 

[nyczill3st]

So is there any truth to ISIS being trained/funded/created by the CIA? For economical/political reasons? Heard this just wasn't so sure if it was true but after taking a step back and just looking at history and the bigger picture wouldn't be surprised if it was true, or maybe I've been watching too much Homeland..

 

[me love nutella]

So if Iran can support safely Hezbollah for so many years even during warfare between Hezbollah and Israel, why are people attributing lack of Palestinian support to the initiation of ww3 or being "scared"...

Your question makes no sense.

Egypt is allied with Israel and the U.S. Even if Egypt were to make concessions to support Palestinians in big ways, they'd pay for it.So they'd be scared to even think of assisting Palestinians. You need to see where the best interests lie. Get shafted by the Israel and the U.S. and have them stop their aid to Egypt, or stick as an alliance with the biggest superpowers.

Iran has been bumping heads with Israel for a long time and their interest lies in allying with proxy militant groups of same religious sects in neighbouring countries since they all see Israel as a threat and in the way of their policies. As far as they would go, is to not ever attack Israel because they will pay the biggest price. They saw what happened in Iraq.

Saddam Hussein was one of the biggest Palestinian supporters in the Middle East and the main Arab leader with balls to stand up against the U.S and Israel. It was Israeli intelligence that spearheaded the whole WMD lie. Pressured Britain and U.S. into taking the lie as a pretext to invade Iraq. We all know what happened next.

So certain neighbouring Arab countries, despite how they might see the wrong in Israel's policies, they do not want to suffer Saddam's fate. So they will tread lightly and stick to their best interests.

 

[me love nutella]

Latest updates:

The U.N. has voted to launch an independent inquiry into Israel's offensive against Gaza, infuriating Israel and now they are banning journalists to enter Gaza.

 

[addy85]

So if Iran can support safely Hezbollah for so many years even during warfare between Hezbollah and Israel, why are people attributing lack of Palestinian support to the initiation of ww3 or being "scared"...

Because Hezbollah militants live in Lebanon, Hamas live in Palestine (or Israel as far as your concerned i'm sure)

 

[rhythm808]

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[rhythm808]

Your question makes no sense.

Egypt is allied with Israel and the U.S. Even if Egypt were to make concessions to support Palestinians in big ways, they'd pay for it.So they'd be scared to even think of assisting Palestinians. You need to see where the best interests lie. Get shafted by the Israel and the U.S. and have them stop their aid to Egypt, or stick as an alliance with the biggest superpowers.

Iran has been bumping heads with Israel for a long time and their interest lies in allying with proxy militant groups of same religious sects in neighbouring countries since they all see Israel as a threat and in the way of their policies. As far as they would go, is to not ever attack Israel because they will pay the biggest price. They saw what happened in Iraq.

Saddam Hussein was one of the biggest Palestinian supporters in the Middle East and the main Arab leader with balls to stand up against the U.S and Israel. It was Israeli intelligence that spearheaded the whole WMD lie. Pressured Britain and U.S. into taking the lie as a pretext to invade Iraq. We all know what happened next.

So certain neighbouring Arab countries, despite how they might see the wrong in Israel's policies, they do not want to suffer Saddam's fate. So they will tread lightly and stick to their best interests.

Uhhh no.  That isn't why Egypt is on the side of Israel.  Egypt is on the side of Israel because the military regime that controls Egypt at the moment kicked out the muslim brotherhood regime.  Hamas is an off-shoot of the muslim brotherhood and are largely considered allies with eachother.  
Hate one - - - you hate the other.  

The only thing that happened was Egypt realized the muslim brotherhood are a dirty terrorist organization. 

 

[00david00]

need someone to verify the translations on that vid.

 

[rhythm808]

need someone to verify the translations on that vid.

Over 49,000 shares on Facebook, postings from people with their names displayed in Arabic, and no one has claimed that the translations are wrong.

They are accurate, and that is what Hamas preaches.  

I mean....you can also go to liveleak and see Hamas' tunnels found by IDF for yourself.

 

[00david00]

tunnels is one thing, and same with hamas preaching the same message. But actually having a kids show like that would be another level.

However, I am skeptical of translations done by a website called 'palwatch'.

 

[rhythm808]

tunnels is one thing, and same with hamas preaching the same message. But actually having a kids show like that would be another level.

However, I am skeptical of translations done by a website called 'palwatch'.

Here is a reply from someone on the Facebook video:

"For those wondering, yes. The translation is real and accurate. I speak arabic.
I am shocked and upset by this. But also, when you think about the years of oppression from the israelis, it may become very possible to develop such extreme hatred.
The palestinian people are referring to the israeli's that have taken their land, homes, and cities. I would think most people would develop a hatred of any group that would do such things.
However, i do not see the benefit of broadcasting this hate on a children's network, and i don't see it being in any way beneficial to the kids.
It is saddening to see such hatred, but it is a reality."

 

[nickysant0r0]

israel apologists keep saying if they stop firing rockets they won't be bombed. But they have been caged like animals and bombed for years before they started firing rockets. There over 100 children in israeli prisons being held with out charges. They are firing rockets because that is all they can do. It's a final resort and all they can do to show that that will not just lay down and die. If you watch the first video with Ross kemp and don't feel for the children then you must not have a heart.

 

[rhythm808]

israel apologists keep saying if they stop firing rockets they won't be bombed. But they have been caged like animals and bombed for years before they started firing rockets. There over 100 children in israeli prisons being held with out charges. They are firing rockets because that is all they can do. It's a final resort and all they can do to show that that will not just lay down and die. If you watch the first video with Ross kemp and don't feel for the children then you must not have a heart.

 

[Animal Thug]

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You want to know what's so ironic about that video you posted? No kids have shot/killed any Jews or Israelis in any of the past wars or uprising in the last 30 years.

Here something factual to counter any argument against kids wanting the deaths of Jews:

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Is that the Israeli government themselves have killed children, and actually boast and are proud of killing innocent children.

If you're a child being oppressed, kept in confined area like animals for so long - what do you expect from these little children? Do you expect them to give praise to those who conducting the genocide, ethnic cleansing and killings of these kids parents, uncles, grandfathers? Israel has not set any good examples for these kids to feed off of. They're being treated like animals by the Israelis on a daily basis.

Take the Palestinians living in the West Bank for example. They don't resort to bombings or killings, yet have to deal with the constant abuse, segregation, checkpoints and have to defend themselves on a daily basis from those settlers living in the Palestinian territory. Yet we hear nothing about that huh?


Rhythm808, sit down. Your further pushing the agenda of what abuse these kids have to deal with on a daily basis. These children grow up watching their loved ones get murdered and terrorized by the Israeli people and you expect them to resort to peaceful living? You don't murder the opposition and than expect the opposing not to murder you back. It is the law of reciprocity. Where does one build tolerance to ignore every violent option they have until they're dead or caged in?

 

[rhythm808]

Rhythm808, sit down. Your further pushing the agenda of what abuse these kids have to deal with on a daily basis. These children grow up watching their loved ones get murdered and terrorized by the Israeli people and you expect them to resort to peaceful living? You don't murder the opposition and than expect the opposing not to murder you back. It is the law of reciprocity. Where does one build tolerance to ignore every violent option they have until they're dead or caged in?

Why do you completely avoid what they state in the video?  They weren't talking about payback, or oppression in that video.  They were advocating the killing of Jews for no reason other than being Jewish.  What do you call the rockets that Hamas shoots?  What about the tunnels that Hamas used to smuggle weapons and terrorist into Israel in order to carry out terrorist attacks.  Are you going to acknowledge any of those things happening, or are you going to give me another vague response with the same propaganda I've heard time and time again? 

 

[duba169]

If they had the capabilities you better bet your *** they would wipe out every Jew. Thankfully they don't. They avoid this topic because they really don't care. They don't believe that Israel should exist in the first place... Or ever. It always comes back to that. That's why the topic ends up with everyone going in circles.

That video isn't new it's been around.

Hamas PR game is tight. I'll give them that. For all you guys talk about jews running the media they are getting bad press on every station except fox news and some in germany. out of shame only

But I'll take a good army over good public relations if I had a choice. It is kinda the only thing that's ginna truly matter

The UN is one of the most useless bodies ever created, I don't pay them any mind on ANY issue

The trend following liberals will move on to something else next month too

 

[00david00]

yeah looks like those translations are actually accurate. not a good look.

 

[flyeed]

Just wanted to say props to the Jewish people who got arrested today protesting for the human rights of the people of Palestine

http://m.democracynow.org/stories/14520

 

[mr marcus]

 

Rhythm808, sit down. Your further pushing the agenda of what abuse these kids have to deal with on a daily basis. These children grow up watching their loved ones get murdered and terrorized by the Israeli people and you expect them to resort to peaceful living? You don't murder the opposition and than expect the opposing not to murder you back. It is the law of reciprocity. Where does one build tolerance to ignore every violent option they have until they're dead or caged in?

Why do you completely avoid what they state in the video?  They weren't talking about payback, or oppression in that video.  They were advocating the killing of Jews for no reason other than being Jewish.  What do you call the rockets that Hamas shoots?  What about the tunnels that Hamas used to smuggle weapons and terrorist into Israel in order to carry out terrorist attacks.  Are you going to acknowledge any of those things happening, or are you going to give me another vague response with the same propaganda I've heard time and time again? 

Israel commit terrorist attacks too but I guess Palestinians can't make those accusations since they're not backed by the western world 

and props to the Israeli protesters