On September 11th they are going to burn a Koran in NYC (serious)

[rashi]

Watching the pundits on these shows are making me sick. Saying that just because Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Roosevelt, and Truman took dictatorship positions to throw people in jail just because they thought that people that disagreed with them are a "threat to national security", now Obama should do the same? Absolutely sick.

The people that are at fault are these Corporate Media outlets glorifying this. These people are acting like its such a huge issue and a threat to the troops and yet, they are non-stop talking about the situation and constantly putting images on TV? The media is exacerbating the situation by legitimizing this pastor. This guy has a church in BFE with a congregation with less than 50 people, who cares? Ignore him, this is exactly what he wants.

The argument that "Well, they'll attack us more if they burn the Qu'rans" is just stupid. As if they already didn't have a reason to attack the troops considering we invaded and occupying their homeland, having drones drop bombs on innocent people, ect. Please...

 

[jbone2308]

Originally Posted by 35KD

Originally Posted by GotHolesInMySocks

Muslims to burn US flags in protest of Koran burnings
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread609814/pg1

Damn

On the real it's a setup.  Why you think all this high powered officials are making it a national scene?  You got this back-wood KKK looking Pastor of a church of 50, getting mad press for this nonsense.  All America or the "system" wants the radical muslims to do is react violently so we can point and say "see look at them, this is why we are at war."


  

 

[jbone2308]

Originally Posted by 35KD

Originally Posted by GotHolesInMySocks

Muslims to burn US flags in protest of Koran burnings
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread609814/pg1

Damn

On the real it's a setup.  Why you think all this high powered officials are making it a national scene?  You got this back-wood KKK looking Pastor of a church of 50, getting mad press for this nonsense.  All America or the "system" wants the radical muslims to do is react violently so we can point and say "see look at them, this is why we are at war."


  

 

[mrben23]

BTW, the guy decided to call off Saturday's burnings.

 

[mrben23]

BTW, the guy decided to call off Saturday's burnings.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by peks03

the very same people that are saying they have the "right" to build a mosque near ground zero should be defending this controversial preacher's "right" to burn the quran. just because someone has the "right" to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do.

He can but one is a clear incitement to violence.. Which is a clause that limits the First Amendment.. Either way if he wants to he can... He will just make defeating extremism harder and in turn being the least Patriotic as he can.. But this guy's record seems to hint at the issue of this.... Hence why you can be against this but for the Ground Zero community center

And don't equate building a community center that has a mosque to being intolerant and ignorant and burning the Quran... Especially when Pastor Ignorance knows the consequence... These 2 actions are NOWHERE close to each other... One is not hateful and is NOT wrong, the other is hateful, dangerous, will cause global problems, and directly puts this country in danger..

Also answer me this what does burning the Quran accomplish besides pissing off extremist Muslims and making more extremist Muslims?

Since when has reading the Quran been as extremist as burning one?

Don't equate the two because they are not the same.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by peks03

the very same people that are saying they have the "right" to build a mosque near ground zero should be defending this controversial preacher's "right" to burn the quran. just because someone has the "right" to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do.

He can but one is a clear incitement to violence.. Which is a clause that limits the First Amendment.. Either way if he wants to he can... He will just make defeating extremism harder and in turn being the least Patriotic as he can.. But this guy's record seems to hint at the issue of this.... Hence why you can be against this but for the Ground Zero community center

And don't equate building a community center that has a mosque to being intolerant and ignorant and burning the Quran... Especially when Pastor Ignorance knows the consequence... These 2 actions are NOWHERE close to each other... One is not hateful and is NOT wrong, the other is hateful, dangerous, will cause global problems, and directly puts this country in danger..

Also answer me this what does burning the Quran accomplish besides pissing off extremist Muslims and making more extremist Muslims?

Since when has reading the Quran been as extremist as burning one?

Don't equate the two because they are not the same.

 

[xtapolapacetl]

the very same people that are saying they have the "right" to build a mosque near ground zero should be defending this controversial preacher's "right" to burn the quran. just because someone has the "right" to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do.


Yeah, but if you turn it around I'm sure that the right wingers defending this guy's right to burn the Quran as an act of freedom of speech are thrilled to defend the right of those who want to build the mosque in NYC because it's the part of the freedom of religion, right? Yeah, right.

It goes both ways. The very same people that are saying this guy has the "right" to burn the Quran should be defending the Muslims "right" to build a mosque on that spot in NYC. But do they? No, they organize protests and get support from Fox News.

Freedom of speech is an illusion full of hypocrisy. Everyone defending freedom of speech is oh so proud to defend this noble concept until it hits home. The very forum we're discussing this on, there are many limitations on what you're allowed to say.

 

[xtapolapacetl]

the very same people that are saying they have the "right" to build a mosque near ground zero should be defending this controversial preacher's "right" to burn the quran. just because someone has the "right" to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do.


Yeah, but if you turn it around I'm sure that the right wingers defending this guy's right to burn the Quran as an act of freedom of speech are thrilled to defend the right of those who want to build the mosque in NYC because it's the part of the freedom of religion, right? Yeah, right.

It goes both ways. The very same people that are saying this guy has the "right" to burn the Quran should be defending the Muslims "right" to build a mosque on that spot in NYC. But do they? No, they organize protests and get support from Fox News.

Freedom of speech is an illusion full of hypocrisy. Everyone defending freedom of speech is oh so proud to defend this noble concept until it hits home. The very forum we're discussing this on, there are many limitations on what you're allowed to say.

 

[milestailsprowe]

Burning the quran is really nothing in my eyes to tell the truth. It will anger all the Muslims in the world and help organizations recruit but after all that has gone done its a whole lot of wasted time.

Some little church is getting worldwide attention for all the wrong reasons and more over foolishness. I can see where their coming from with anger at radicals and extremist but burning a holy text is insulting to everyone of the religion not just the ones doing the wrong.

 

[milestailsprowe]

Burning the quran is really nothing in my eyes to tell the truth. It will anger all the Muslims in the world and help organizations recruit but after all that has gone done its a whole lot of wasted time.

Some little church is getting worldwide attention for all the wrong reasons and more over foolishness. I can see where their coming from with anger at radicals and extremist but burning a holy text is insulting to everyone of the religion not just the ones doing the wrong.

 

[Specter]

Originally Posted by GotHolesInMySocks

Muslims to burn US flags in protest of Koran burnings
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread609814/pg1

Radical Muslim groups around the world plan to burn American flags in protest of Florida Pastor Terry Jones intention to burn copies of theKoran on the ninth anniversary of the September 11 terror attacks on New York's World Trade Center towers, Sky News reported on Thursday.
Oh please. They'd burn the flag even without this fool threatening to burn the Koran.

 

[Specter]

Originally Posted by GotHolesInMySocks

Muslims to burn US flags in protest of Koran burnings
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread609814/pg1

Radical Muslim groups around the world plan to burn American flags in protest of Florida Pastor Terry Jones intention to burn copies of theKoran on the ninth anniversary of the September 11 terror attacks on New York's World Trade Center towers, Sky News reported on Thursday.
Oh please. They'd burn the flag even without this fool threatening to burn the Koran.

 

[budweiser]

Originally Posted by rashi

Watching the pundits on these shows are making me sick. Saying that just because Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Roosevelt, and Truman took dictatorship positions to throw people in jail just because they thought that people that disagreed with them are a "threat to national security", now Obama should do the same? Absolutely sick.

The people that are at fault are these Corporate Media outlets glorifying this. These people are acting like its such a huge issue and a threat to the troops and yet, they are non-stop talking about the situation and constantly putting images on TV? The media is exacerbating the situation by legitimizing this pastor. This guy has a church in BFE with a congregation with less than 50 people, who cares? Ignore him, this is exactly what he wants.

This, this, this. It's a DISGRACE that this Fu Man Chu'd hick is anywhere near a camera lens. It's too bad the media never gets sheepish about it's behavior, because this is disgusting.

 

[budweiser]

Originally Posted by rashi

Watching the pundits on these shows are making me sick. Saying that just because Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Roosevelt, and Truman took dictatorship positions to throw people in jail just because they thought that people that disagreed with them are a "threat to national security", now Obama should do the same? Absolutely sick.

The people that are at fault are these Corporate Media outlets glorifying this. These people are acting like its such a huge issue and a threat to the troops and yet, they are non-stop talking about the situation and constantly putting images on TV? The media is exacerbating the situation by legitimizing this pastor. This guy has a church in BFE with a congregation with less than 50 people, who cares? Ignore him, this is exactly what he wants.

This, this, this. It's a DISGRACE that this Fu Man Chu'd hick is anywhere near a camera lens. It's too bad the media never gets sheepish about it's behavior, because this is disgusting.

 

[ruxxx]

@ "Pastor Ignorance".

 

[ruxxx]

@ "Pastor Ignorance".

 

[fro b giant]

The media is as much to blame for this as the pastor burning the books. Don't think for one minute the media which is driven by political figures, doesn't know what they are doing. Putting this information out there is only going to spark attacks in turn it will make you (the general public) feel as though America has a right to attack other countries based on these attacks in which they helped stir up.

The pastor is not acting on what the bible teaches at all.

 

[fro b giant]

The media is as much to blame for this as the pastor burning the books. Don't think for one minute the media which is driven by political figures, doesn't know what they are doing. Putting this information out there is only going to spark attacks in turn it will make you (the general public) feel as though America has a right to attack other countries based on these attacks in which they helped stir up.

The pastor is not acting on what the bible teaches at all.

 

[jbone2308]

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

the very same people that are saying they have the "right" to build a mosque near ground zero should be defending this controversial preacher's "right" to burn the quran. just because someone has the "right" to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do.

Yeah, but if you turn it around I'm sure that the right wingers defending this guy's right to burn the Quran as an act of freedom of speech are thrilled to defend the right of those who want to build the mosque in NYC because it's the part of the freedom of religion, right? Yeah, right.

It goes both ways. The very same people that are saying this guy has the "right" to burn the Quran should be defending the Muslims "right" to build a mosque on that spot in NYC. But do they? No, they organize protests and get support from Fox News.

Freedom of speech is an illusion full of hypocrisy. Everyone defending freedom of speech is oh so proud to defend this noble concept until it hits home. The very forum we're discussing this on, there are many limitations on what you're allowed to say.
I never say this in the sports forum when this guy post but here...

QFT!

  

 

[jbone2308]

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

the very same people that are saying they have the "right" to build a mosque near ground zero should be defending this controversial preacher's "right" to burn the quran. just because someone has the "right" to do something doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do.

Yeah, but if you turn it around I'm sure that the right wingers defending this guy's right to burn the Quran as an act of freedom of speech are thrilled to defend the right of those who want to build the mosque in NYC because it's the part of the freedom of religion, right? Yeah, right.

It goes both ways. The very same people that are saying this guy has the "right" to burn the Quran should be defending the Muslims "right" to build a mosque on that spot in NYC. But do they? No, they organize protests and get support from Fox News.

Freedom of speech is an illusion full of hypocrisy. Everyone defending freedom of speech is oh so proud to defend this noble concept until it hits home. The very forum we're discussing this on, there are many limitations on what you're allowed to say.
I never say this in the sports forum when this guy post but here...

QFT!

  

 

[fro b giant]

The media is as much to blame for this as the pastor burning the books. Don't think for one minute the media which is driven by political figures, doesn't know what they are doing. Putting this information out there is only going to spark attacks in turn it will make you (the general public) feel as though America has a right to attack other countries based on these attacks in which they helped stir up.

The pastor is not acting on what the bible teaches at all.

 

[fro b giant]

The media is as much to blame for this as the pastor burning the books. Don't think for one minute the media which is driven by political figures, doesn't know what they are doing. Putting this information out there is only going to spark attacks in turn it will make you (the general public) feel as though America has a right to attack other countries based on these attacks in which they helped stir up.

The pastor is not acting on what the bible teaches at all.

 

[redrum]

I bet dude is still going to go through with it,
the government needs another reason to be at war

 

[redrum]

I bet dude is still going to go through with it,
the government needs another reason to be at war