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Originally Posted by fearthenut
Originally Posted by eNPHAN
Originally Posted by HankMoody
*#%% it. This isn't worth my time.
get a life.
Out of all the BS you've spewed in this thread for over numerous days now, this might be the funniest of your comments.
No voting member in their right mind should vote for Lebron as MVP, regardless if he's the best player in the league. Clearly, the best player in the league (which he is, I'm not denying this), doesn't always win this YEARLY award. Year-to-year. To even begin to consider the concept that someone would let a previous year influence their opinion, much less the record of another team, is asinine and foolish.
While Lebron certainly has among the most impressive stats in the league (or the most impressive stats if you want to argue that too, whatever), a key component behind those stats is that he's playing with a comparable talent in DWade. DWade shoulders the nightly load as well. Lebron's nightly duties and priorities to his team are less than others, say Rose/Durant/etc. (Notice how I didn't even bring up Bosh)
I'm not arguing that Rose should win or Durant should win, but to think that Lebron deserves to win is idiotic.
Also, keep in mind the mental aspect which voters consider. People didn't want to go to Lebron's team, he went to someone else's. He admitted defeat. I'm not making a case for a double standard here, but you can guarantee that voters will remember this notion (even though it was last year) more than any consideration of the lowly Cavs currently. You can argue that this may not be true, but then you are in the overwhelming minority, admittedly. Seemingly, Lebron isn't even the most valuable player on his own team, REGARDLESS of stats. There is a mental aspect in play here, and Lebron couldn't be on a worse end of it.
People want to vote for an alpha dog, a man who doesn't admit defeat, a man who shoulders THE MAJORITY of his team's workload and delivers on a nightly basis.
A man who doesn't fit those characteristics is not an NBA MVP. Lebron James is not that man.
*Waits to get response with counterarguments from past MVP's (although none of which share this same context or situation, therefore nullifying their involvement in my argument), and also a mention of ex-Cav teammates, and 14*
Originally Posted by fearthenut
Originally Posted by eNPHAN
Originally Posted by HankMoody
*#%% it. This isn't worth my time.
get a life.
Out of all the BS you've spewed in this thread for over numerous days now, this might be the funniest of your comments.
No voting member in their right mind should vote for Lebron as MVP, regardless if he's the best player in the league. Clearly, the best player in the league (which he is, I'm not denying this), doesn't always win this YEARLY award. Year-to-year. To even begin to consider the concept that someone would let a previous year influence their opinion, much less the record of another team, is asinine and foolish.
While Lebron certainly has among the most impressive stats in the league (or the most impressive stats if you want to argue that too, whatever), a key component behind those stats is that he's playing with a comparable talent in DWade. DWade shoulders the nightly load as well. Lebron's nightly duties and priorities to his team are less than others, say Rose/Durant/etc. (Notice how I didn't even bring up Bosh)
I'm not arguing that Rose should win or Durant should win, but to think that Lebron deserves to win is idiotic.
Also, keep in mind the mental aspect which voters consider. People didn't want to go to Lebron's team, he went to someone else's. He admitted defeat. I'm not making a case for a double standard here, but you can guarantee that voters will remember this notion (even though it was last year) more than any consideration of the lowly Cavs currently. You can argue that this may not be true, but then you are in the overwhelming minority, admittedly. Seemingly, Lebron isn't even the most valuable player on his own team, REGARDLESS of stats. There is a mental aspect in play here, and Lebron couldn't be on a worse end of it.
People want to vote for an alpha dog, a man who doesn't admit defeat, a man who shoulders THE MAJORITY of his team's workload and delivers on a nightly basis.
A man who doesn't fit those characteristics is not an NBA MVP. Lebron James is not that man.
*Waits to get response with counterarguments from past MVP's (although none of which share this same context or situation, therefore nullifying their involvement in my argument), and also a mention of ex-Cav teammates, and 14*
yea one most important game of last year... lolOriginally Posted by Mjvskb24vs23
Originally Posted by HANNSUM
yeah don't lie.Originally Posted by cguy610
Lebron isn't better than Kobe. All you guys know that Kobe puts it on cruise control during the regular season and then turns it on in the playoffs so these regular season stats don't mean all that much in determining the best player in the league.
6-24... we all saw this.
One game fam.
yea one most important game of last year... lolOriginally Posted by Mjvskb24vs23
Originally Posted by HANNSUM
yeah don't lie.Originally Posted by cguy610
Lebron isn't better than Kobe. All you guys know that Kobe puts it on cruise control during the regular season and then turns it on in the playoffs so these regular season stats don't mean all that much in determining the best player in the league.
6-24... we all saw this.
One game fam.
*checks avy*Originally Posted by fearthenut
I give up.
This isn't just Maverick Carter, this is his whole damn crew on here.
*checks avy*Originally Posted by fearthenut
I give up.
This isn't just Maverick Carter, this is his whole damn crew on here.
Originally Posted by fearthenut
No one had a problem with Mo, Shaq, Varejo, Jamison during the regular season.....
Originally Posted by fearthenut
No one had a problem with Mo, Shaq, Varejo, Jamison during the regular season.....
top 4 in the east?
they're not better than the lakers, boston, orlando , oklahoma dallas nor chicago without bron....
So you think they're Top 4 in the East w/o Lebron (you only listed ORL/BOS/CHI as EC teams that would be better) but when AG 47 says the same thing he receives a stoneface AND a laughing smiley from you? Oh.
top 4 in the east?
they're not better than the lakers, boston, orlando , oklahoma dallas nor chicago without bron....
So you think they're Top 4 in the East w/o Lebron (you only listed ORL/BOS/CHI as EC teams that would be better) but when AG 47 says the same thing he receives a stoneface AND a laughing smiley from you? Oh.
Did you even watch the playoffs? I hate Lebron but his teammates were seriously TRASH in the postseason. The entire team pretty much disappeared and left it up to Lebron. This isn't NBA2K where you can just use 1 dude to demolish elite teamsOriginally Posted by fearthenut
I give up.
This isn't just Maverick Carter, this is his whole damn crew on here. The above two posts battling to be the paperboy on the weekend.
You're gonna bow at the man's feet for 82 games and call him the "best player in the league", but if he can't come through in the playoffs he's not going to get the blame, getting off the hook because of his teammates? The same teammates who weren't questioned for a millisecond during the regular season? No one had a problem with Mo, Shaq, Varejo, Jamison during the regular season..... but all of a sudden after Lebron quits in Game 6 and the Cavs are out of the playoffs, it's their fault????
This is the best example of "post count doesn't equal rational thought" I've ever seen.
Keep this thread going till the award comes out. See ya then.
Did you even watch the playoffs? I hate Lebron but his teammates were seriously TRASH in the postseason. The entire team pretty much disappeared and left it up to Lebron. This isn't NBA2K where you can just use 1 dude to demolish elite teamsOriginally Posted by fearthenut
I give up.
This isn't just Maverick Carter, this is his whole damn crew on here. The above two posts battling to be the paperboy on the weekend.
You're gonna bow at the man's feet for 82 games and call him the "best player in the league", but if he can't come through in the playoffs he's not going to get the blame, getting off the hook because of his teammates? The same teammates who weren't questioned for a millisecond during the regular season? No one had a problem with Mo, Shaq, Varejo, Jamison during the regular season..... but all of a sudden after Lebron quits in Game 6 and the Cavs are out of the playoffs, it's their fault????
This is the best example of "post count doesn't equal rational thought" I've ever seen.
Keep this thread going till the award comes out. See ya then.