OK...lets talk about the age of consent. What is considered, "underaged?"

Originally Posted by buggz05

My mom had 4 children by the age of 16.

Me personally, it's all about maturity. This kind of means nothing below 22
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I'm 25.

However, it's all circumstantial. In other cultures, the age of 12 is widely accepted. Who am I to judge that?

In Illinois, the legal age is 17 I believe. Meh.

When I was 18/19 I was dating a 15/16 year old on and off. It worked fine until I hit 20, almost 21. Completely different ball park then.

When I was a teenager, I always saw 15/16 yr olds dating guys in there 20's. There has to be something about that besides easy p. I'm willing to bet that is when they are discovering their sexuality, and to be honest a teenage boy is not going to give them their best "education".

I don't really care. I don't judge too many people. Yall do what yall wan't unless it involves my family.

Speaking of which, when my sister was 16 she was trying to date this ex-teacher who was 24. This dude
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Ex=teacher huh...
I know I'm not the only one that sees a vicious cycle in this post.  

Anyways this topic is silly.  The age is there to prevent adults from taking advantage of teens.  Is it an exact science? Nope.  there's always going to be special situations but I think it does more good than harm. 

  
 
do people even understand why the legal age  of consent is what it is in the first place?
 
Originally Posted by shoeking2101

Originally Posted by INS

Man i was at this party last weekend, drank way too much. A lot of Henney, Ciroc and beer. So i am on that cool guy steez chatting girls up. I see this one chick and i walk over to her and try to spit game. Hit her with the damn why are you not dancing. She was like o i wasnt feeling it so i hit her with the 
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 well tell me when the right song comes on.
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. So some song comes on and she finds me and we dance and she was a DOPE. So the song was over and i start the small chat, I'm like yeah so its crazy i am about to graduate this year i am a senior in college. She hits me with the whole what's my ambitions and goals and at this point i was ready to B.A.N in my jeans.
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but to keep convo going i was like what about you? She was like o I am also a senior, i was like word got any jobs lined up. She said her summer job before she left high school.
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Boner went away like walking in on your mom naked. Hit her with the man i will catch you later and walked away in shame.
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See, what's the big deal here? Why walk away in shame? Why because of her age did you lose your boner (NH)

You obviously were feeling her, and something as little as her AGE turned you off of her completely? It would be no difference if she told you she was 24 as opposed to 17.
im sure the potential jail time also took care of that boner. 
 
Personally I don't give a @*$%. If she 15 but look 25 I made a mistake but I aint gonna be thinking I'm a pedo. I go by law and in NYC that's 17 and up. Social norms change though. In some states it's okay to get married at around 14 if you get parents permission like that guy from LOST banging that 16 year old 40 lookin broad.
 
Originally Posted by MonStar1

Originally Posted by buggz05

My mom had 4 children by the age of 16.

Me personally, it's all about maturity. This kind of means nothing below 22
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I'm 25.

However, it's all circumstantial. In other cultures, the age of 12 is widely accepted. Who am I to judge that?

In Illinois, the legal age is 17 I believe. Meh.

When I was 18/19 I was dating a 15/16 year old on and off. It worked fine until I hit 20, almost 21. Completely different ball park then.

When I was a teenager, I always saw 15/16 yr olds dating guys in there 20's. There has to be something about that besides easy p. I'm willing to bet that is when they are discovering their sexuality, and to be honest a teenage boy is not going to give them their best "education".

I don't really care. I don't judge too many people. Yall do what yall wan't unless it involves my family.

Speaking of which, when my sister was 16 she was trying to date this ex-teacher who was 24. This dude
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Ex=teacher huh...
I know I'm not the only one that sees a vicious cycle in this post.  

Anyways this topic is silly.  The age is there to prevent adults from taking advantage of teens.  Is it an exact science? Nope.  there's always going to be special situations but I think it does more good than harm. 

  


To put it into perspective, my mother was born in the philipines. I am a first generation American. My half-sister is not, we have the same dad. My mother was in her 30's/40's when I was born.
 
I was in a situation last year where a girl lied to me and said she was 18. Come to find out, she's 17, but TIGHT as hell. Trust me on that... I had already hit and the damage was done, so... I wont even front... I continued.

She was crazy as hell though... To the point where I worry if she's doing ok...
 
Originally Posted by shinkuhadouken91

Originally Posted by shoeking2101

Disclaimer, I have never dated younger than me.

Ever ponder that "Age" or "Age of Consent" is nothing more than man-instituted thing by society. If they all were saying the age of consent for relationships were 15, or 16 from Jump, then it wouldn't be so "Pervertish." My point here is, what makes the magic number of 18 be the age of consent? How stupid is that when you think about it? It's really just a number thrown out there. Why not 17? Why not 19? The base for people actually picking an age for age of consent is...confusing to say the least, imo.

What does age really mean? With a clean unbiased mind, If a 22 year old, or a 24 year old, (age irrelevant here) dates a 16 year old, (age again, irrelevant) and they fall in love with each other, and treat each other with the utmost respect, etc. who are we as a society, to get in the way of that all because of a miniscule thing like age? Really?

I've heard that when people date down they can manipulate the younger person in the relationship but that can happen dating someone your own age, and older, so age isn't the culprit here?

Just a little food for thought.
I somewhat agree, but Im more than sure aged perverted men would use this as an excuse to get wit a 16 year old chick with the old bull**** excuse of "Age is just a number when you think about it" to justify whatever intentions or motives they have.

It is hard to draw the line where the age of consent would be, but its done like this based on generalization that when you are 18, you are capable of making your own decisions(but we all know it depends on the person) correct me if im wrong.
I see where this point of view comes from definitely, but like I said, there are people 21 and up who can't make their own decisions...at least good ones. How many women (and men for that matter) have you've seen that are 21 and up, not even 18 and up, 21 and up who make terrible decisions as far as mates are concerned. Men out here being whipped by women, women sticking with no good men who just say all the right things, etc. Those Aged perverted men you speak of whether they prey on women above or below 18 are still perverts. If they prey on a woman that's 25, 15,29, 17, does that make their actions any more okay?

These thing happen and will continue to happen regardless of age. In my opinion, attraction should be based on what is physically appealing to that person as well as how those two people genuinely feel around and about each other, and not based upon one being older or younger than the other, that's silly as hell. Me personally, I can't wrap my mind around how someone can find another person attractive and genuinely think that they may like that person, but not pursue it because of that other person' s age.

Yes age of consent may be there because one may "manipulate" the other but that happens past 18 as well. In essence, is society (and some people in this thread) saying that if someone manipulates their partner it's not as bad because they are 18? Is manipulating and "tricking"your partner into getting what you want out of said parter any more or less okay because of their age? That's wrong regardless of age. The way you treat your partner and the genuine feelings that you harbor for your partner should be the defining answer as to whether or not to pursue a relationship with another person, not age.

Excuse the mini rant, i've been having debates concerning this exact same topic for weeks now
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man i dont know. i feel like we find it wrong to wanna smash underage girls because society says it's wrong. I've seen some high school girls on the bus thick as hell that would make me wanna go. They know what sex is about at that age already so is it really "taking advantage"?
 
FYI, I'm not condoning underaged activities. I've never done it and I have no desire to do it. Just being completely honest.
That being said, I thought the conversation in the video was very interesting because I hoped his documentary might shed some light on some things.

All you closet freaks need to fall back though. 
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Im just like, if the age of consent was lowered, how many loser guys in their 20's & 30's would be chillin with high school girls; because its easier. Itd happen.
 
Originally Posted by oidreez

man i dont know. i feel like we find it wrong to wanna smash underage girls because society says it's wrong. I've seen some high school girls on the bus thick as hell that would make me wanna go. They know what sex is about at that age already so is it really "taking advantage"?
I knew what sex was about when I was 13 years old beating it to my dad's playboy magazines. Does that make it ok to have sex with girls who knew "what it was about" at that age as well? Hell no, that's terrible. Frontal lobe development (which controls reasoning) hasn't fully developed until the age of about 24. If you think that any kid below the age of about 16 or 17 REALLY has an idea of what sex is and how it can affect their lives later, you're sorely mistaken.
 
yea it shouldnt be lowered at all, but i totally understand the situation if a guy is 18 and the girl is 17, thats understandable, but if a guy is 28 and he has a 16 year old chick thats lame, im 22 and in order to sex an 18 year old she would have to be a 10, and guys lie all the time, i can point out a teenage girl and an older girl easily
 
As far as the law is concerned, I think 16 is a good age for consent.  I would definitely not lower it but wouldn't be too against raising it by a year or two.
Personally its hard out there sometimes for guys.  I am 24 so thankfully i now have the bar to (somewhat) safely assume you are 21 or older if you are there.  But walking around a mall or any other public places you see these girls that are 15-18 dressed like grown women fully developed putting it all on display.  I catch myself like "wow that chick is smoking....is that her mom...oh god she is probably 15".  If i know a girls age i can't go any lower then 20. 
 
Originally Posted by buggz05

Originally Posted by MonStar1

Originally Posted by buggz05

My mom had 4 children by the age of 16.

Me personally, it's all about maturity. This kind of means nothing below 22
laugh.gif
I'm 25.

However, it's all circumstantial. In other cultures, the age of 12 is widely accepted. Who am I to judge that?

In Illinois, the legal age is 17 I believe. Meh.

When I was 18/19 I was dating a 15/16 year old on and off. It worked fine until I hit 20, almost 21. Completely different ball park then.

When I was a teenager, I always saw 15/16 yr olds dating guys in there 20's. There has to be something about that besides easy p. I'm willing to bet that is when they are discovering their sexuality, and to be honest a teenage boy is not going to give them their best "education".

I don't really care. I don't judge too many people. Yall do what yall wan't unless it involves my family.

Speaking of which, when my sister was 16 she was trying to date this ex-teacher who was 24. This dude
30t6p3b.gif
Ex=teacher huh...
I know I'm not the only one that sees a vicious cycle in this post.  

Anyways this topic is silly.  The age is there to prevent adults from taking advantage of teens.  Is it an exact science? Nope.  there's always going to be special situations but I think it does more good than harm. 

  


To put it into perspective, my mother was born in the philipines. I am a first generation American. My half-sister is not, we have the same dad. My mother was in her 30's/40's when I was born.

I guess if I am going to put my entire family's history on blast I might as well tell the full stories.
My mother was kidnapped/sold at the age of 12. Her family is from the southern islands of the philippines and she was drug to the northern islands against her will. This is why she had 4 kids by the time she was 16. She escaped, without her kids, and never looked back. Made her way to America, and birthed a few more children. My mother has been on the run her whole life. Because of this, all of her kids grew up without her. She has always been the target of some kidnapper/rapist/serial killer many many times in her life, and has avoided somewhere around 7 or 8 different attempts to kidnap her or kill her. She even testified against one guy and he got the death penalty. That guy killed/raped like 24 women.  Another one of the guys is a sicko, who took very extreme measures to find her such as sending letters to our families. I did some d-tek work on this guy when I found out about it last year. I have reason to believe this guy is a legitimate pedo/serial killer in a dark/deep network. He made 4 or 5 attempts to kidnap my mom. Elaborate attempts that involved many other people, like a team, and borrowing other people's cars etc. (If you suspect someone is off in the head and they are borrowing your car... i'm just sayin).  

When I was dating underage, I had started dating the girl in highschool. I had mother's, grandmother's and great-grandmother's consent. We were basically family, and we're living together during the last stages of our relationship. I thought that because she wasn't as corrupted as other girls, she could become the legitimate wifey. It worked very well for awhile. We were young, but we were both living on our own. Supporting ourselves, and really her nieces, nephews and even her mother. So we were much older in concept than our ID's would show. Anyways, it didn't work out because by the time I was 20, I was growing up into a man of different means. Different goals in life. Started realizing I didn't want to get caught up taking care of someone else's entire family, etc.  I broke up with her. She ended up with my best friend after I dipped town for a better life, and they started their own little family. It's all good. I still love them all. We're all fambs.

Regarding my little sister and the 24 year old teacher, believe it or not my little sister had my parent's consent, my father and my stepmom. I hated it. I'm an NTer. I did d-tek work. The dude's myspace was full of descriptions of his "dream wedding" and "the perfect girl and guy", yet his myspace friends were full of young girls from the highschool. I had him checked out fully and pinned on a radar in case things wen't wrong. My father gave consent, because his reasoning was that "Your sister is smart and tough, she'll be okay. Besides, nobody wants to get on our family's bad side." And my stepmom's reasoning was "I dated older guys when I was her age too. We all did back then. Every teenage girl has talked to an older guy in one form or another. Your older sisters did too."  I don't really know how any of that ended up. I was never around to be honest. All I  know is they are just associates now, and my little sister is now/still a strong and intelligent woman.

My older sisters did actually date older, and my oldest sister actually married her older date and had twins. She was 16/17 and he was late 20's. They are doing very well. She is now a stay at home mom, and he works data security for the government. Her husband is like an older brother to me, and always has been. He was welcome in the family from day one, because he was a student of my father and also our neighbor.

There. That should give many many perspectives on this topic. Good and bad. I am an idiot for putting this stuff out there. But I was high, intoxicated and highly stressed when I made the original post on the subject last night. Friends don't let friends drink and NT
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Originally Posted by kix4kix

do people even understand why the legal age  of consent is what it is in the first place?

Clearly they don't.

Going on about girls being developed and stuff - which is irrelevant. It's all about emotional maturity - and sure, some people are more mature at an early age - but the law is there to protect people and it doesn't care that there are anomalies.
 
I met a girl that was dope as hell, but she was 17, I'm 20. THE FEEL IS BAD.
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needless to say I told her to give me a ring in March when she turns 18.
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I guess I put her on layaway? 
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Originally Posted by oidreez

man i dont know. i feel like we find it wrong to wanna smash underage girls because society says it's wrong. I've seen some high school girls on the bus thick as hell that would make me wanna go. They know what sex is about at that age already so is it really "taking advantage"?

physically yes they do...mentally I'm not a guy so I can't say for sure but I'd bet male or female they don't know what sex is REALLY about at a young age. Just cuz she looks ready doesnt mean she is.
 
some of these girls man. smh

Met this bad broad who told me she was 23. come to find out she was 19. Not too bad.

problem is that she has a 2 year old by a 36 year old dude. I'm damn near 30. Daddy issues I see.
 
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