OFFICIAL Ye fka "kanYe West" x G.O.O.D. Music Thread - ¥$ (AKA YE X TY DOLLA SIGN) - VULTURES 2 (NOW AVAILABLE sorta)

^Yeah just watched. It was great to see him just being himself there finally and not bugging out..
 
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I find myself doing the alonzo gif at any Ye interview :lol dude is so interesting, like hell make ZERO sense one second then make a really deep brilliant points :lol I respect his ambition and really dude has done mostly anything he's put his mind to. But he really leaves you confused as hell/lost, impressed, laughing, admiring his self confidence and shameless boldness alllll in a span of 30 mins

And yeah Ye has most definitely been a bigger more impactful person in music than Bono has been recently, like that's not even close or debatable. U2 isn't what they were they're beyond their prime, well beyond.
 
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I find myself doing the alonzo gif at any Ye interview :lol dude is so interesting, like hell make ZERO sense one second then make a really deep brilliant points :lol I respect his ambition and really dude has done mostly anything he's put his mind to. But he really leaves you confused as hell/lost, impressed, laughing, admiring his self confidence and shameless boldness alllll in a span of 30 mins

And yeah Ye has most definitely been a bigger more impactful person in music than Bono has been recently, like that's not even close or debatable. U2 isn't what they were they're beyond their prime, well beyond.

I feel you on this. :lol


He's crazy as hell but a lot of times you have to be a lil crazy/delusional to be successful at whatever you choose to do.
 
I'm in the boat that nothing will beat GITD

I enjoyed Yeezus a lot more then WTT
 
btw...what is every1 talkin bout...

...when we all know the hip hop album of the 2000s was Get Rich or Die Tryin...
 
Some of my thoughts on Kanye West.



I felt compelled to voice my thoughts and opinions on the Kanye West "situation" to date and also exercising my speaking skills, so pardon the lack of tact in my delivery. I'm aware that a lot of my thoughts are incomplete and scattered, but I think I got my point across?

Share your thoughts and continue the dialog.

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Son... its that serious? You felt compelled to make a 15minute video to express your thoughts about Kanye?
 
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I find myself doing the alonzo gif at any Ye interview
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dude is so interesting, like hell make ZERO sense one second then make a really deep brilliant points
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I respect his ambition and really dude has done mostly anything he's put his mind to. But he really leaves you confused as hell/lost, impressed, laughing, admiring his self confidence and shameless boldness alllll in a span of 30 mins

And yeah Ye has most definitely been a bigger more impactful person in music than Bono has been recently, like that's not even close or debatable. U2 isn't what they were they're beyond their prime, well beyond.
I agree. 

I feel like he literally changes his mind on things mid sentence. He answers questions waaay too fast to be thinking about what they are saying. 

I watched the Breakfast Club interview and I am still as lost as I was in the beginning. 
 
@ ATLien Seeko
Since you want to improve your speaking ability, try pausing instead of saying "um". Just dont say nothing, stop and think and continue forward once your found the right word/ direction to continue your statement. I found myself counting "ums" instead of focusing on what you were saying.
 
[h2]Why Everybody Has Missed The Point Of Kanye's Bound 2 Video[/h2]
Upon the release of Kanye West’s new music video Bound 2, I, like many fans around the world rushed to see what the self-professed ‘creative genius’ had in store for me.

And like many fans I was left confused, disappointed and somewhat angry at what I initially took to be a video both flawed in its conception and execution.

In my rush to be amongst the first to condemn Bound 2’s visual accompaniment, I allowed myself to get carried away in the collective vitriol and thus fell into the trap of knee jerk journalism; a crime I do my best to avoid committing.

On the surface, West’s video for Bound 2 is nothing but a poorly directed and trashy document of the rapper having tantric sex with his fiancé, whilst NOT riding a dirt bike, through an ever changing artificially recreated landscape.

Confused at why West would seemingly produce a video so out of keeping with his brand and usual aesthetic style, I assumed Bound 2 was simply a creative brain fart, a misguided concept that had eventually produced a laughable product.

Yet, as I allowed my thoughts to settle on the video, I started to realise that perhaps I’d been guilty of judging it too quickly and without contextualising it within West’s recent actions and creative output.

Contextualising Bound 2 as a track within West’s album Yeezus provides us with the first hints of the rapper’s intentions.

Yeezus’ standout tracks, New Slaves, Black Skinheads and I am a God are fuelled by West’s feelings of anger and frustration at what he perceives are creative glass ceilings, those that prevent him from fully realising his ideas.

The title of the album and track I am a God ft. God caused a predictable stir, as any reference to self-deification would do in a traditionally Christian country, yet creating a stir is exactly what West has sought after throughout his entire career.

Though by his own admission, West isn’t perfect, when one thinks of the moments in the rapper’s career which have caused the most controversy, they inevitably occur when West has fundamentally disagreed with something he has seen.

Whether it be Taylor Swift’s besting of Beyonce at the VMAs, or when West went off script to declare “George Bush doesn’t care about black people”, when Kanye thinks something is wrong, he sticks his neck out and says so.

Prior to the release of Bound 2, Kanye was most recently embroiled in controversy due to his decision to print the confederate flag upon the back of jackets in his tour merchandise.

West has openly stated that his intention wasn’t to offend, but to nullify a symbol of racism and pain, by re-appropriating it with himself.
“The Confederate flag represented slavery in a way. That’s my abstract take on what I know about it, right? So I wrote the song ‘New Slaves.’ I took the Confederate flag and made it my flag. It’s my flag now. Now what you gonna do?”
Earlier this year, in his interview with BBC Radio 1 DJ Zane Lowe, West intimated that those in his genre only wear expensive clothing and jewellery to give themselves a sense of superiority and equal footing with the examples of white success they’re surrounded with.

The rapper stated that whilst he was guilty of the same actions, what he and his peers actually sought was equality.
“We don’t want to have a print on the back of our $2000 jacket making us feel like a king for a day. We don’t wanna have the jewellery just trying to make ourselves feel good; we want to be good.”
West’s latest album is a case study of the rapper’s attempt to nullify a variety of racial iconography by appropriating such symbols with himself and his race.

By naming his album Yeezus and having a song titled “I am a God”, West is attempting to re-appropriate the most culturally recognisable white figure in the world. This is no mean feat, especially in a country where self-deification is often met with hysterically aggressive retaliation.

During his interview with Lowe, the rapper expressed his delight at the hysteria ‘I am a God’ was causing and the indignation that such self-deification was met with.

When someone says ‘I am a God’ everyone says ‘who the hell does he think he is?… would it have been better if I had a song saying I’m a ****** or I’m a gangster? To say you are a God, especially when you got shipped over to the country you’re in and your last name is that of slave owners; how could you have that mentality?” 

Black Skinheads is yet another example, where racial inversion attempts to dilute the impact of ‘skinhead’ a word synonymous with the neo Nazi movements that gained prominence throughout North America, during the 1980s.

Collaborating with British fashion photographer Nick Knight, West’s video for Black Skinheads showcased another attempt to commandeer racial iconography, with the video opening to a shot of three hooded members of the Ku Klux Klan, cloaked in all black robes.

Those with knowledge of semiotics will know that the colours white and black are age-old semiotic binaries, white denoting a positive purity and black denoting the negative unknown.

By inverting these binaries, West is seeking to establish contradictory allegories of his own, therefore changing people’s perception of previously harmful stereotypes.

All of this context finally brings us onto Bound 2 and the seemingly vapid video that West and Knight teamed up to produce.

Bound 2 is littered with a variety of the most stereotypical motifs of white American pop culture.

We are first shown the easily recognisable landscapes of North America, with mountains, canyons and deserts. Next come the beautiful white stallions, the lone male figure riding off into the sunset and finally the beautiful woman.

We even get subjected to soft porn when West and Kardashian feign intercourse atop of his dirt bike.

All of these motifs are represented so shoddily, that it simply must be intentional; Kanye isn’t short on money folks and Knight is a more than accomplished director.

Simply put, Bound 2 is an obvious parody disguised as a pastiche; however, there is one exception.

The only aspect of West’s video not associated, as being stereotypically American is the rapper’s presence itself. West may be the lone male rider, whom accompanied by his beautiful lover is slowly riding off into the sunset. But his race doesn’t fit with the conventional stereotype, this is yet another appropriation and a remarkably clever one at that.

The fact that Kanye chose to premiere his video on Ellen, a TV show with an overwhelmingly white demographic isn’t a coincidence either. West is actively striving to break down white American stereotypes by making the average white American confront his integrated versions of them.

The only difference Bound 2 has to the examples listed above, is that it’s so subtly done that in today’s culture of voracious media consumption, most (including myself) mistook the video for trash.

West is well aware of how he is perceived and when asked if he expects everyone to understand his songs meanings, the rapper responded astutely.
“ No, I don’t expect people to understand me. I think there are people who are wired by their parents to understand what I’m saying and then there are those that are wired by their parents to reject it.”
Whilst we all cringed at silly ol’ Kanye, it’s highly plausible the rapper had the last laugh.

Beaming from ear to ear once the video had premiered on Ellen to rapturous applause, West knew he’d succeeded.

We’ve all been had.
 
"YOU AINT GOT THE ANSWERS, SWAY!" - Ye'

Son went ballistic :lol. Sway wasn't havin' any of that. Good that he defended himself. The reason why Kanye blew up in that interview is because he is so frustrated with people not letting him into their circles, their companies and not to be compensated for his "genius" ideas. The man is so passionate. Yeezy World Peace for President y'all.
 
I find myself doing the alonzo gif at any Ye interview :lol dude is so interesting, like hell make ZERO sense one second then make a really deep brilliant points :lol I respect his ambition and really dude has done mostly anything he's put his mind to. But he really leaves you confused as hell/lost, impressed, laughing, admiring his self confidence and shameless boldness alllll in a span of 30 mins

And yeah Ye has most definitely been a bigger more impactful person in music than Bono has been recently, like that's not even close or debatable. U2 isn't what they were they're beyond their prime, well beyond.

I was with you until that last part, Apart from HipHop culture I don't agree Ye has had a bigger impact on the rest of the World as a whole,
Most of what Kanye does is to benefit himself and his Ego, Bono is the most politically effective celebrity of all time, I don't think Kanye will ever have that sort of impact, Because he is too damn selfish.

And before the stans try attack me, I am a Kanye fan
 
i feel like i really do understand where he's comming from and what he's trying to say and do , but if he thinks that going off on radio personalities is going to get us to sympathize with him he must be crazy . when things like that happen thats where the line gets drawn and people start to categorize him the way they do. like what are you going to do ? throw temper tantrums and cry until some head of a corporation gives you money ? regardless of your influence and motivation if you came into my work space screaming on people the way we've seen you do repeatedly throughout the years just because they dont agree with you , you would get you thrown the _ outta my office . its funny that he made the analogy of someone playing a beat super loud to make you think you like the beat and then he does the exact same thing by screaming on sways show . will we support you and purchase your product if you make good product ? ofcourse . thats something that cant be denied . even people who didn't like him at the time still wanted both yeezys in every color . but if you think your going to ask us to help you become a billionaire through the fashion industry when there are real issues like a war thats still going on your sadly mistaken . i think if he could just get someone to help him work on the way he communicates (because he obviously aint learn no new techniques from jay with wtt) then it would allow us as fans and consumers to rally behind what hes says a little more . because even if someone wasnt a fan of him initially , they would be able to at least understand and respect him if they didnt feel offended or turned off everytime he opens his mouth . i mean you cant say that the media sways your public perception , but then you give these scatter brain interviews and run off on tandems that don't even answer the questions being asked with the typical innevetalble outburst and think that we as individuals wont come to our own conclusions from that 

my dude just needs to take a public speaking course ...
 
I find myself doing the alonzo gif at any Ye interview :lol dude is so interesting, like hell make ZERO sense one second then make a really deep brilliant points :lol I respect his ambition and really dude has done mostly anything he's put his mind to. But he really leaves you confused as hell/lost, impressed, laughing, admiring his self confidence and shameless boldness alllll in a span of 30 mins

And yeah Ye has most definitely been a bigger more impactful person in music than Bono has been recently, like that's not even close or debatable. U2 isn't what they were they're beyond their prime, well beyond.

I was with you until that last part, Apart from HipHop culture I don't agree Ye has had a bigger impact on the rest of the World as a whole,
Most of what Kanye does is to benefit himself and his Ego, Bono is the most politically effective celebrity of all time, I don't think Kanye will ever have that sort of impact, Because he is too damn selfish.

And before the stans try attack me, I am a Kanye fan

**** that. Before the stans attack nothing. You're right fam.

Kanye is the king of the world in his own mind.

But here on planet earth, son is nowhere near as high as he believes he is. Bono > Kanye on so many levels.
 
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I'm late... But I just saw a tweet about kanye sounding like Bill Nye the science guy in his interviews... And maybe I'm just high, but I swear I saw someone mention that on here.

If so, I must watch it now... What interview is this?
 
juan epstein interview was great... the michael jackson & dilla stories :hat i love when he reflects back on old stories around the CD, LR, & graduation era.

i enjoyed the breakfast club interview as well... i like that charlamagne went at ye because most people just agree with ye or go along with him in interviews. he at least challenged him on the things he didn't agree with & was honest.

the way he spazzed out during the sway interview though :eek :rollin :rollin

"i started the year off with i gave sway his first tv, i gotta end the year off with you ain't got the answers sway." :lol :lol
 
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