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I can only imagine Yeezus tour. :eek



Kanye West & The Beatles: What's a Black Beatle

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How did he almost forget the greatest verse of all time? Lol but yeah I need a tour announcement ASAP
 
i still don't understand how cats are calling Yeezus trash

I just don't see it.

this is one of the BEST albums to drop in a long time PERIOD.

Hip-hop needed this to show our growth and versatility whether you like the music on the disc or not.

and this is coming from a person who did not care for 808s and MBTDF.


i respect NT and the opinions of the members on this board

someone will quote me and rip me apart probably the same people who are contributing to the thread regularly and don't even like the album.

yes, you are entitled to do so, it is a message board of course...

BUT

music is a simple thing, listen to what you like and move on.

don't listen to what you don't like and move on.

simple.
 
I understand the hate for it. It's very different.

Sidenote, it took me awhile to realize how sexually vulgar this album is :rollin

Every song almost. Speaking of, I have a theory Yeezus is what Kanye named his D....

"Tight dress dancin close to him, Yeezus just rose again"

I mean, it makes sense.... :rollin
 
stillmaticshay said:
i still don't understand how cats are calling Yeezus trash

I just don't see it.

this is one of the BEST albums to drop in a long time PERIOD.

Hip-hop needed this to show our growth and versatility whether you like the music on the disc or not.
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hip hop needs lyrics, and 'Ye claims he has the best verse in hiphop on this album :{
 
Cragmatic said:
I understand the hate for it. It's very different.

Sidenote, it took me awhile to realize how sexually vulgar this album is
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Every song almost. Speaking of, I have a theory Yeezus is what Kanye named his D....

"Tight dress dancin close to him, Yeezus just rose again"

I mean, it makes sense....
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The thing is it's NOT THAT different.

Most of the people who hate the album don't like Kanye or anything he's done post Late Registration to begin with.

But track by track what's soooo different about the stuff on here?  On Sight is out there, ok.  Everything else?  Guilt Trip would have been right at home on 808s.  Blood on the Leaves and Bound 2 would have sat fine on MBDTF.  Everything else sounds like all the Travi$ Scott inspired stuff he's been doing since Cruel Summer.  And as I've said several times, take Crown off MCHG and it could have been a Yeezus track.  Other people are making the same stuff (granted Travi$ Scott is the common denominator in that example.)

And when you actually listen to the verses on Yeezus, it's not even like he's rapping any differently than he has been his whole career.  It's the same campy, Kanye  humorous, struggle punchlines.  He has like 2 very bad/whack verses on the whole album.

People are like Kanye lost his mind with this album, but it's the same **** he's BEEN doing just modernized a little.  ****** don't want to say "I just don't like the way this **** sounds personally" or "I don't like Kanye" so they try to find ******** reasons to discredit the album as a work.  Sonically, aurally, and production wise this **** is dope.  If you're looking for 48 hard bars every track, this isn't the album for you, (and honestly I don't know what is right now, because since GKMC, no one's really been spitting like that anyway) but if you want to hear a bunch of **** that sounds cool and bangs in the whip/club this is the best thing out.
 
stillmaticshay said:
someone will quote me and rip me apart probably the same people who are contributing to the thread regularly and don't even like the album.
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I'll be the one.

This isn't just the Yeezus thread.

It's the Kanye thread.

If someone has something to say about Kanye or his work, whether it be good or bad, where else are they supposed to do it?
 
I popped in Yeezus the other day, and man, I can't tell you how brilliant this album is. Track by track, I felt like my soul shook. Every word, every note, my god, it was just amazing. The spontaneous overflow of powerful feelings was just too much for my body to handle. I'm usually not the one to label anything a classic, but this is far superior than a classic. This is a pure 100% masterpiece, and my mind, body, and soul will cherish this event for the rest of my life.
 
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anybody else find it INCREDIBLY IRONIC that 'black skinnhead' is the promo music for a movie talking about how a bunch of young WHITE dudes got rich off wall street? Oh, that's just me? Carry on then.
 
Nako XL said:
The thing is it's NOT THAT different.

Most of the people who hate the album don't like Kanye or anything he's done post Late Registration to begin with.

But track by track what's soooo different about the stuff on here?  On Sight is out there, ok.  Everything else?  Guilt Trip would have been right at home on 808s.  Blood on the Leaves and Bound 2 would have sat fine on MBDTF.  Everything else sounds like all the Travi$ Scott inspired stuff he's been doing since Cruel Summer.  And as I've said several times, take Crown off MCHG and it could have been a Yeezus track.  Other people are making the same stuff (granted Travi$ Scott is the common denominator in that example.)

And when you actually listen to the verses on Yeezus, it's not even like he's rapping any differently than he has been his whole career.  It's the same campy, Kanye  humorous, struggle punchlines.  He has like 2 very bad/whack verses on the whole album.

People are like Kanye lost his mind with this album, but it's the same **** he's BEEN doing just modernized a little.  ****** don't want to say "I just don't like the way this **** sounds personally" or "I don't like Kanye" so they try to find ******** reasons to discredit the album as a work.  Sonically, aurally, and production wise this **** is dope.  If you're looking for 48 hard bars every track, this isn't the album for you, (and honestly I don't know what is right now, because since GKMC, no one's really been spitting like that anyway) but if you want to hear a bunch of **** that sounds cool and bangs in the whip/club this is the best thing out.
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brother.... I salute you :hat.

And I been feeling what phillip is saying too. Expressing emotion is common, everybody does it. The diff between Kanye is he expresses emotions like he's still a ******g toddler, you know? Going limp in the store when they can't have that sour patch kid candy.... pulling girls hair by showing affection..... slamming down their cup when they want juice... crying when all they want is to be changed. That **** is acceptable when you are a certain age but at some you gotta grow up. One of the most emotional tracks of this year was "Book of Soul." Hands down (fight me if you disagree) You felt the lyrics and they were clever and intelligent and powerful. I damn near cried the first time I heard it. Ab sounded like a ******g adult and he like ten years 'Ye junior. I don't get that from 'Ye, I'm sorry. He just be ranting about ***** and money; I mean nearly EVERY track on the album... THAT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER. Either one, the other, or both. Maybe cuz I'm a woman, I don't know... but after a while man that **** gets old. That was my problem with this album and quite frankly those that defend it. Misogynistic lyrics all up and through is what it takes for something to be a work of art? THAT'S deep? And he raising a daughter too, Lord help them (srs).
 
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Well said GatorBelts. I was tempted to touch on the subject matter and how this dude is supposedly happy with his woman and having a baby girl.

And this is what we get. You nailed everything else as well. Son is a mess.

Nako, much the way you say people who don't like the album don't like Kanye, couldn't you just as easily say that the majority of the people eating it up are diehard Kanye fans?

On Sight is out there. Guilt Trip sounds like it could have been on his other terrible album. Blood On The Leaves and Bound 2 are the best 2 tracks on there.

I also don't understand one thing you said. I think a lot of us are saying "I just don't like the way this **** sounds personally". And you're seeing that as "discrediting the album".

And that includes "Sonically, aurally, and production wise". It's all one in the same.
 
illphillip said:
Well said GatorBelts. I was tempted to touch on the subject matter and how this dude is supposedly happy with his woman and having a baby girl.

And this is what we get. You nailed everything else as well. Son is a mess.

Nako, much the way you say people who don't like the album don't like Kanye, couldn't you just as easily say that the majority of the people eating it up are diehard Kanye fans?

On Sight is out there. Guilt Trip sounds like it could have been on his other terrible album. Blood On The Leaves and Bound 2 are the best 2 tracks on there.

I also don't understand one thing you said. I think a lot of us are saying "I just don't like the way this **** sounds personally". And you're seeing that as "discrediting the album".

And that includes "Sonically, aurally, and production wise". It's all one in the same.
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The thing is people are saying "I don't like the way this sounds, because it isn't good" as opposed to just leaving it at I don't like the way it sounds.

People LOVE Bound 2 but then are calling a song like On Sight a mess, but why?  Objectively, On Sight is a Daft Punk produced song that sounds like the same Daft Punk **** from the early 2000s that people were calling the future of sound.  EVERYONE who is a Daft Punk fan would have killed to have On Sight on Random Access Memories, but because it's a Kanye song all of a sudden it's terrible.  His lyrics didn't ruin that song, people just don't like that hard industrial sound. 

And that's fine.  That's their right.  I take issue with some of the posters in here who try to pretend like that isn't just their opinion as opposed to some objective assessment of the production credit.  Then when they're called out on it they say things like "obviously it's just my opinion" but then mock dudes who disagree.

People who want soul samples and smooth listening type **** aren't going to like Yeezus very much, that's a given.  People who like industrial acid techno house type ****, who would go to an old Portishead, Daft Punk or a Hudson Mohawke or Travi$ Scott show and vibe out will love it -- because those are the musical entities he was trying to channel when he made this. 

Them discrediting it is saying things like "this has no emotion on it" "he didn't have one good verse, he's not rapping" "the production is weak." I mean, really?

I agree with saying "sonically, aurally, production wise" and that it's all the same.  Some times I get carried away with the adjectives.

GatorBelt I totally agree that the album is completely misogynistic.  I think that's the point -- it's supposed to be dude on a bender the weekend before he marries the side chick he knocked up -- but I get why a lot of people don't care for it.  It's abrasive and harsh.  You're basically listening to him flip off the world.  It's the same reason a lot of people couldn't sit through NIN's "The Downward Spiral".  But I don't think that takes away from what he IS saying.  He's saying some ****.  It might just not be what you want to sit down and listen to for 40 minutes.

I'll say one last thing:  I think people have certain expectations and wants from their musicians.  I expect a certain sound and message from my favorite artists and when they dont give me that it's kind of jarring, and I can choose to accept it or reject it and chop the album up as a loss for him (emphasis on: in my eyes/ear).  And I think that's why people are having trouble with this album (it's the same people that didn't like MBDTF, WTT, and CS mostly.) They heard Yeezus was dropping and was hoping Kanye would give us soulful smooth listening **** with a message.  Instead we got "soulful" loud banging **** with a different kind of message.  Essentially a "**** you".  And they feel disappointed.

/thesis
 
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I like Daft Punk... and when I heard On Sight I was hype.... until I heard 'Ye start rapping :lol :lol Would've pr



But honestly man.... I think you've helped me understand this album better. I do think it's an incredibly immature way of displaying that angst :lol but I get it. Props brother :hat

**edit Daft Did Black Skinnhead too!? And I am God?
 
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