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Detroit at home when we blew the 22 point lead
Detroit at home when we blew the 22 point lead
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Originally Posted by gusyouout
dang. i'm about to file a missing person's report for baron davis. i understood the charlotte game when everyone else got it going, but tonight was something else. it wasn't just that he didn't put up the points he used to, but he doesn't even seem to be trying. i see barely any energy from davis and i'm wondering if the all star snub got to him. he doesn't push the ball up like he used to, attack the rim, or create plays. he jacked up a lot of unnecessary shots and it reminded me of the montgomery days with davis.
Originally Posted by GSDOUBLEU
Originally Posted by gusyouout
dang. i'm about to file a missing person's report for baron davis. i understood the charlotte game when everyone else got it going, but tonight was something else. it wasn't just that he didn't put up the points he used to, but he doesn't even seem to be trying. i see barely any energy from davis and i'm wondering if the all star snub got to him. he doesn't push the ball up like he used to, attack the rim, or create plays. he jacked up a lot of unnecessary shots and it reminded me of the montgomery days with davis.
My dude, you and me must have the same brain........(pause) cause i was thinking the exact same thing.
Warriors should shoot for Artest
By Marcus Thompson II
Bay Area News Group
Article Launched: 02/09/2008 01:38:21 AM PST
The Warriors get no respect.
Baron Davis is the NBA's least-heralded bona fide star. Stephen Jackson is the face of everything that's wrong with the league despite being a rather nice guy and a great teammate - and a really good player, it turns out. Coach Don Nelson is regarded as a gimmicky mad scientist though he's one of the game's greatest minds. The most recent addition, forward Chris Webber, is hardly as revered as you would expect from one of the most influential big men of the modern era, helping to change the game with his combination of size, skill and athleticism.
So, because the Warriors are filling the Rodney Dangerfield role, why not go all out and trade for Sacramento Kings forward Ron Artest?
He appears to be available. Here's what Artest told the Sacramento Bee at Monday's practice: "I just think (the Kings) would be better if I wasn't on the team. I think (Kings Coach Reggie Theus) would be doing much better."
Very few Warriors don't have a chip on their shoulder, what with all the players playing for extensions, trying to stay out of the D-League and trying to prove they deserve more playing time. Artest could hit the ground running with the Warriors and their us-against-the-world attitude.
More importantly, Artest fits on the court. Imagine a lineup of Davis and Monta Ellis at guard, Artest and Jackson at forward and Webber at center. The Warriors bench would be much deeper and more experienced, featuring forwards Al Harrington and Matt Barnes, guards Kelenna Azubuike and Mickael Pietrus and center Andris Biedrins.
They would be a better defensive team, more dangerous on offense and even more fiery. And they would keep Artest out of Denver's hands. According to a person familiar with the situation, the Nuggets - a serious threat to the Warriors' playoff chances - are the front-runners in the Artest sweepstakes.
The Warriors could add Artest even without having to pay the luxury tax. He's making $7.4 million this season (and next season). They could swap him for Pietrus and center Patrick O'Bryant - $5.7 million worth of expiring contracts - and still avoid the dollar-for-dollar luxury tax penalty.
Obviously, the NorCal rival Kings don't want to help the Warriors. So it may cost the Warriors a first-round pick or two to make it an offer Sacramento can't refuse. But with rookies Brandan Wright, Marco Belinelli, Kosta Perovic and C.J. Watson on the bench - not to mention Azubuike, in his second-year - the Warriors need a draft pick like Oprah Winfrey needs spare change.
Plus, Artest has an early-termination option, which he probably will exercise to become a free agent. So, acquiring him wouldn't dip into the future funds. Even if he didn't opt out, that's a cheap price for a pretty dominant player.
The reality is that this band of perceived knuckleheads needs major help to stay afloat in the treacherous Western Conference waters. Warriors management is looking to seize the moment this season - signing Webber, not extending Davis, Biedrins and Pietrus, giving Barnes a one-year deal, declining to retain the rights of O'Bryant - before making major changes for the future.
It's not like the Warriors' reputation is on the line. They can't lose respect they don't have.
Nelson limiting Webber to center
By Geoff Lepper
Bay Area News Group
Article Launched: 02/10/2008 01:47:01 AM PST
Nelson limiting
Webber to center
Just as it took Don Nelson only one game to abandon his plan of starting Mike Dunleavy at power forward last season, the Warriors coach quickly changed his mind regarding Chris Webber at the same position.
As Webber grew acclimated to his new teammates last week, Nelson said he planned to split Webber's time between power forward and center, which would allow him to use either forwards Matt Barnes or Al Harrington or center Andris Biedrins as his other big man, depending on the matchups.
But after watching Webber provide four points and one rebound in 13 somewhat shaky minutes in his debut Thursday, Nelson announced Saturday that Webber should be thought of as a center, meaning he will split time with Biedrins. Harrington and Barnes will divide the power forward position.
"Everything works better for me, at least in my mind, if I kind of make (Webber) a (center) as opposed to a (power forward)," Nelson said. "That's an idea. I'm going to look at that and hope that's what's going to work best for us."
Harrington expects his coach to continue tweaking his lineup, but he welcomes the idea of set roles.
"At some point, we have to start locking down our rotation and knowing who's going to play and when they're going to play," Harrington said. "I think that's what helped us last year. In our playoff run, we knew exactly who was playing, when they were playing. Over these last 32 games, we're going to have to start getting some consistency in our rotation so guys can start becoming comfortable with their roles."
Nelson also said he expects to start squeezing out his rookies and second-year players from his rotation as the season enters its final stage. That's one reason fifth-year forward Mickael Pietrus has been more of a factor lately and second-year swingman Kelenna Azubuike has been playing less.
"If I'm going to be a playoff team, my veterans are going to have to do it. If they don't do it, we ain't going to make it," Nelson said. "I don't have any rookies or second-year guys down there that are all of a sudden going to make me a playoff team. Azubuike has played wonderfully well this year, but yet, I think that Pietrus is more of a veteran and been around and deserves a chance to help us in the next 33 games."
Nelson denied that Pietrus' resurgence has anything to do with the approaching Feb. 21 deadline. The Warriors have until then if they wish to trade him before he becomes an unrestricted free agent at season's end.
Pietrus is taking a wait-and-see approach.
"I'll see what's going to happen," Pietrus said. "If I'm gone, I'll wish the Warriors the best, and if I'm here, we're going to be the best."
"I'll see what's going to happen," Pietrus said. "If I'm gone, I'll wish the Warriors the best, and if I'm here, we're going to be the best."
perfect words.
let's get artest or miller.
perfect words.Originally Posted by Enlightened Thought
"I'll see what's going to happen," Pietrus said. "If I'm gone, I'll wish the Warriors the best, and if I'm here, we're going to be the best."
Shaquille O'Neal - C Feb. 9 - 11:35 am et Shaquille O'Neal is expected back in Phoenix and available to practice on Sunday. That gives him Sunday's shoot-around and two full practices before Wednesday's trip to Golden State, the first possible game in which he could play.
Suns coach Mike D'Antoni said that Shaq playing on Wednesday is a "maybe", while Thursday's game is more probable. At the very least, he'll be available for a February 20th matchup with the Lakers.
Source: East Valley Tribune
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_news.aspx?sport=NBA&majteam=PHO
Keep it as a "maybe" D'Antoni. I don't want to see Shaq when we play Phoenix. Shaq's first game back should be against the Lakers insteadof us.