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We have to bounce back tomorrow against the Clips. Please Warriors, don't let this one slip away.
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Should be but Nellie is too stubborn to do that.Originally Posted by daprescription
Davis Ellis Jackson Wright Biedrins that should be our starting line for the rest of the season.
Originally Posted by daprescription
This wasn't a game we should have won. This is a game we needed. We aren't going to beat Lakers twice, Mavs twice, Spurs twice. It's just not going to happen.
Originally Posted by vietsta4o8
montas new tattoo
[h2]Sacramento 120, Warriors 105: This is what a 49-33 record (and the 8 seed) looks like[/h2]
By Tim Kawakami
Tuesday, March 18th, 2008 at 10:24 pm in NBA, Warriors.
A lost opportunity for the Warriors? Yes, of course.
As expected, No. 9 Denver got drilled tonight in Detroit, so a Warriors' victory in Sac tonight would've given the GSWs a nearly insurmountable (given the Nuggets' remaining schedule) 2.5-game lead for the eighth spot.
But the Warriors did not win. Oh no siree, they did not. They played mediocre defense from the outset, very terrible defense in a run-away third quarter, got nothing from Monta Ellis, and did not have enough to make up for it against a decent Kings team.
It happens. I'm as tough on the Warriors as anybody (usually), but this kind of game on the road just sometimes happens, and it hasn't happened that much to the Warriors this season.
Ellis was flat. Baron wasn't great. Stephen Jackson got in foul trouble. Al Harrington wasn't effective. It happens. The key: Don't let it happen repeatedly, and that's something this season's Warriors team has avoided incredibly well. (OK, maybe if you add in Saturday's lousy home victory over lousy Memphis, the Warriors have played two straight bad games-but it was a win. It counts.)
So they lost in Sac, Denver lost in Detroit, the Warriors are still 1.5 games up for the last playoff spot and still a big 2 games up in the Loss Column.
Not a big impact, really, for the playoff race, unless Warriors fans really had their hearts set and their minds locked on a 50-win season.
50 wins is still quite possible for the Warriors, but it was never likely. I've heard talk and talk and talk about how 9 teams in the West might end up with 50, and I've never bought it. Never.
Why? Because it's almost impossible. It's hard for five or six teams to keep playing .600 ball over a whole season. But eight or nine? Something will happen to prevent that.
Even in the Great West, games like this one-at Sac, with their fans revved up, with the Warriors not at their best-happen to good teams, and the Warriors aren't a great team. Maybe not quite a very good team. Just a good team.
Until they get a big man Nelson can trust and a big man to stop lay-ups and score some easy buckets… they're a good team, tracking towards 49 or 48 victories, and that's not a minor feat in this tough conference.
By the way, the Nuggets play in Philly tomorrow. The Warriors still might be 2.5 games up if they take care of the Clips tomorrow.
Then the Warriors host Houston-who just had its 22-game win streak snapped by Boston-on Friday, go home-and-home with the Lakers on Sunday-Monday, host Portland and then finish with the final 11:
@Denver
host Dallas (on Warriors' BTB)
@San Antonio
@Dallas (BTB)
@Memphis
@New Orleans
host Sac
host Denver (HUGE GAME, if GSWs win, I think it clinches 8th)
host Clippers
@Phoenix
host Seattle.
So it's not easy. I see 8 more wins left on the Warriors' schedule, which would be an 8-8 finish. Maybe it's 7-9. Something like that.
8-8 would get the Warriors to 49-33, which is just fine. Very good, when you think back to the start of the season. About right.
I've wavered a bit on the Warriors' expected win total this season-started with 44, moved it down during the 0-6 start, moved it back up by November, thought about a 50-win season not too long ago…
But again: This is what a 49-win season looks like. I'd guess a victory in LA tomorrow, but either way, it still feels like 49-33.
I think 49 wins get the Warriors into the playoffs, either as the 7 or 8 seed, depending on Dallas (who lost tonight to drop to 44-24) and Phoenix (who won to get to 45-22).
I think Denver most optimistically can get to 48-34 but I really believe 46 or 45 victories are much more likely for a team that plays that horribly on the road.
It's really up to the Nuggets-they either start winning on the road and scare the Warriors, starting tomorrow in Philly… or Denver keeps losing, fades towards a 45-37 finish, and then the Warriors really don't need to worry much.
If the Nuggets don't get it going on the road, all the GSWs have to do is beat Denver one time in the remaining two games, and it's over.
-Now a quick rundown of some particulars about tonight's game:
* Don't want to pick on Monta Ellis, but I suspect Don Nelson pulled him early in the first quarter, then later kept him on the bench for the entire 4th quarter, mostly because of his terrible defense.
The 3-for-9 shooting didn't help, but maybe that's part of it-Monta wasn't doing anything on offense, so he totally zoned out on defense.
Kevin Martin's a tough guard for Monta… and he didn't come close to doing it well. Didn't get back on defense, didn't do much when he did, lost his man… it was bad.
I know Monta had some personal issues before this game, but these defensive problems are not new.
He played 28 minutes, was a -17 in the plus/minus and it looked worse than that.
* But the poor perimeter defense wasn't restricted to Ellis.
Baron Davis rarely gets publicly called to task for poor defense, but he was awful tonight. Didn't move his feet, didn't run back, didn't rotate, didn't go after loose balls-maybe he was pacing himself for the back-to-back tomorrow in LA, but tonight was the game he should've been geared up to play.
Baron was a stunning -27 tonight in 39 minutes. That might be his worst plus/minus as a Warrior, certainly his worst in the last two seasons.
* Did you see how much better the Warriors played defense when both Baron and Monta were out to start the fourth quarter? C.J. Watson and Kelenna Azubuike moved, deflected passes, rotated, stayed in front of penetrators (most of the time)… you know, good defense stuff.
The Warriors are going to have to live with Ellis' defensive lapses for now. And they probably can expect Baron to play harder down the stretch and in the playoffs.
But for now, it has to be a major worry. They usually get a ton out of those guys on offense… But I've said this before: When Ellis and Davis don't dominate their guys on offense, they can kill the team with their defense.
* Brandan Wright. He's still pretty good. When he's out there to be seen.
I knew POB had it in him.Originally Posted by vietsta4o8
nice win tonight.
in other news, pob is puttin up solid numbers in the dleague
Last Three Games
Date Opponent Result MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OFF DEF REB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS
Mar 16 vs. UTA L 99-102 39 9-17 0-0 3-4 2 5 7 1 0 4 2 3 21
Mar 12 vs. LAD L 85-98 33 7-13 0-0 0-0 3 9 12 2 2 0 4 3 14
Mar 27 @ ANA W 98-108 30 10-15 0-0 2-2 3 6 9 2 4 1 3 2 22