Official Victor Ortiz vs Mayweather 9/17/11

Originally Posted by TraSoul82

REF CLEARLY SAID "LET'S GO" AFTER TALKING TO ALL 3 JUDGES SEPERATELY. CLOCK WAS RUNNING AFTER BEING STOPPED. CLEAN PUNCHES. 42-0.
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Originally Posted by lynchpin33

Mark my words Mayweather hater- Mike Wilbon on PTI will go off on this on Monday's show.  Whenever boxing comes up he already calls him a chicken anyway, this will just add fuel to the fire.
- After Floyd felt out Ortiz in the first round he could have ended this fight at anytime.  But, Floyd who has been in a situation of not having money early in life wanted to give the paying customers (both PPv and in Vegas) their $ worth.  Which is why before he went off on Merchant he apologized to all the fans.  Believe me this could have been over at any moment.  I just think after the headbutt incident Floyd got mad and said let's get this over with before he really does something illegal.  

- As for Ortiz you can tell someone who has never had a big payday as evidenced by his hugging of everyone in PBF's corner and smiling and cheesing afterwards.  He just wanted to get the big payday and get out of there asap.  I mean when he had PBF on the ropes giving him his best, PBF just smiled and shook his head, at that point I said this is over...  Many people wasted 59.99 tonite....
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   I still say that crap was fixed. Look Cortez is senile out there, Ortiz is kissing May cause he knows he just got set for life, and really didnt want Floyd to come at his pockets after the fight.
 
Originally Posted by 10508 Cardo Jr Ln

Floyd went into 'I Must Break You' mode 
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 I cant stop watchin it... If he dies, he dies..
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As much as I dislike Floyd, he wasnt in the wrong. Ortiz should have put his hands up after the first punch anyways, regardless of whether he thought the fight was going or not. Idiot.

Sidenote: Had no idea Ortiz was a Jayhawks fan.
 
Originally Posted by Putting In Work

It they ever fight it's be the same outcome... complete domination like every opponent.

When Floyd goes into a fight... he comes out looking like he was never touched... look at how Ortiz looks after only a couple of punches.

Manny is a great fighter, but Mayweather is unbeatable because of how he blocks, keeps his right hand in the cut and waits to counter.

You're going to have to have a fighter that has stamina like no other and he has to keep coming at Floyd none stop and be willing to take some punches to land some... Manny is the fighter to keep attacking, but I don't know if he has the stamina... but in the end it still won't be enough to beat Floyd... and I like Manny too but it is what it is... height is going to hurt him.
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You serious brah?
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If there's one thing we can all agree on is Manny's stamina.
When a fighter like that doesn't seem tired after throwing 50 60 punches for 12 rounds,
I'm pretty sure they have great stamina.

Pacquiao's unpredictably in his combos will be poison for Floyd who tries to get his opponents rhythm down withing the first 3 rounds.
What happens when he meets someone who will be unpredicatable for all 12 rounds?

What happens when Manny meets the most skilled Counterpuncher of our generation?

Another thing is that Roach is a brillant trainer, has much better advice than Roger's usual "He don't got nothing on ya, keep doing what ya doing!"
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He has shaped Manny from a one dimensional, one handed slugger to the WW king, P4P #1 we see today.
 
Originally Posted by lynchpin33

Mark my words Mayweather hater- Mike Wilbon on PTI will go off on this on Monday's show.  Whenever boxing comes up he already calls him a chicken anyway, this will just add fuel to the fire.
- After Floyd felt out Ortiz in the first round he could have ended this fight at anytime.  But, Floyd who has been in a situation of not having money early in life wanted to give the paying customers (both PPv and in Vegas) their $ worth.  Which is why before he went off on Merchant he apologized to all the fans.  Believe me this could have been over at any moment.  I just think after the headbutt incident Floyd got mad and said let's get this over with before he really does something illegal.  

- As for Ortiz you can tell someone who has never had a big payday as evidenced by his hugging of everyone in PBF's corner and smiling and cheesing afterwards.  He just wanted to get the big payday and get out of there asap.  I mean when he had PBF on the ropes giving him his best, PBF just smiled and shook his head, at that point I said this is over...  Many people wasted 59.99 tonite....
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   I still say that crap was fixed. Look Cortez is senile out there, Ortiz is kissing May cause he knows he just got set for life, and really didnt want Floyd to come at his pockets after the fight.
 
Originally Posted by 10508 Cardo Jr Ln

Floyd went into 'I Must Break You' mode 
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 I cant stop watchin it... If he dies, he dies..
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As much as I dislike Floyd, he wasnt in the wrong. Ortiz should have put his hands up after the first punch anyways, regardless of whether he thought the fight was going or not. Idiot.

Sidenote: Had no idea Ortiz was a Jayhawks fan.
 
Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Real talk I blame the ref. Victor Ortiz's safety is not Floyd's concern. The ref goofed in restarting them, after Floyd dropped Ortiz he could have easily taken a point from Mayweather and given Ortiz time to recover.
I think Floyd knew he was getting away with something dirty but didn't expect for +#$! to happen like that. Out of all the people in the ring that night Floyd is the only one on the ball, not his fault the other two guys decided to turn acted like idiots  
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Applaud this man.
 
Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Real talk I blame the ref. Victor Ortiz's safety is not Floyd's concern. The ref goofed in restarting them, after Floyd dropped Ortiz he could have easily taken a point from Mayweather and given Ortiz time to recover.
I think Floyd knew he was getting away with something dirty but didn't expect for +#$! to happen like that. Out of all the people in the ring that night Floyd is the only one on the ball, not his fault the other two guys decided to turn acted like idiots  
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Applaud this man.
 
This man 41-0. Has knocked out some of the best in the world.
You been telling him for the past three months how your going to knock his head off his shoulders.
AND YOU GONE STAND IN FRONT OF HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING WITH YOUR HANDS DOWN NOT PROTECTING YOURSELF?????
The bright lights and all the attention got to Ortiz. Maybe he thought he was shooting an episode of 24/7.
 
This man 41-0. Has knocked out some of the best in the world.
You been telling him for the past three months how your going to knock his head off his shoulders.
AND YOU GONE STAND IN FRONT OF HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RING WITH YOUR HANDS DOWN NOT PROTECTING YOURSELF?????
The bright lights and all the attention got to Ortiz. Maybe he thought he was shooting an episode of 24/7.
 
Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Real talk I blame the ref. Victor Ortiz's safety is not Floyd's concern. The ref goofed in restarting them, after Floyd dropped Ortiz he could have easily taken a point from Mayweather and given Ortiz time to recover.
I think Floyd knew he was getting away with something dirty but didn't expect for *%$% to happen like that. Out of all the people in the ring that night Floyd is the only one on the ball, not his fault the other two guys decided to turn acted like idiots  
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Originally Posted by WhatsLosinLike

both of these dudes dirty as %!!+.
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THIS.

When Ortiz had the headbutt I knew it was a dirty move and wasn't mad at the ref taking the point, and Floyd, no need to explain...
 
Originally Posted by RustyShackleford

Real talk I blame the ref. Victor Ortiz's safety is not Floyd's concern. The ref goofed in restarting them, after Floyd dropped Ortiz he could have easily taken a point from Mayweather and given Ortiz time to recover.
I think Floyd knew he was getting away with something dirty but didn't expect for *%$% to happen like that. Out of all the people in the ring that night Floyd is the only one on the ball, not his fault the other two guys decided to turn acted like idiots  
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Originally Posted by WhatsLosinLike

both of these dudes dirty as %!!+.
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THIS.

When Ortiz had the headbutt I knew it was a dirty move and wasn't mad at the ref taking the point, and Floyd, no need to explain...
 
Originally Posted by Twig1026

What? Floyd was waxing him the whole fight, I'm saying he's a fool for dropping his hands and throwing hugs...but dont act like nothing is suspect about him putting on that many pounds
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Is this your first time watching boxing?

Alot of fighter will put on  weight, most of them around 10 pounds.
 
Hell,  Gattipnce put on  25 pounds!
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