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couldnt find anything earlierOriginally Posted by hymen man
anyone?
You mean THAT'S how it works? Funny, Tom Hicks always told me I had to come to more games in order for him to spend more money... Huh.Originally Posted by finnns2003
Fans aren't showing up because they've learned their lesson. This team hasn't reached the postseason in a decade. @!$% that. This team has to "earn" the fans' attendance.
Originally Posted by 651akathePaul
^ Exactly the same attitude people had towards the Sonics. Tell me how that turned out.
Seattle takes their teams for granted and only show up when they win.
You mean THAT'S how it works? Funny, TomHicks always told me I had to come to more games in order for him tospend more money... Huh.
Hicks...
I think this is a problem that occurs across the majority of American sports team. If I was in the seattle area, I'd at least hit up a bunch of games with nose bleed tickets. I'd be there to support the players not necessarily management.Originally Posted by 651akathePaul
^ Exactly the same attitude people had towards the Sonics. Tell me how that turned out.
Seattle takes their teams for granted and only show up when they win.
And that's true, but I don't live in other cities. I just know too many people that have a "reserve" team just in case Seattle doesn't pan out, and it extrapolates to the same attitude of only coming out when a team is winning.Originally Posted by DownyBoy
I think this is a problem that occurs across the majority of American sports team. If I was in the seattle area, I'd at least hit up a bunch of games with nose bleed tickets. I'd be there to support the players not necessarily management.Originally Posted by 651akathePaul
^ Exactly the same attitude people had towards the Sonics. Tell me how that turned out.
Seattle takes their teams for granted and only show up when they win.
This... Yeah, its not just Seattle, but I think generally across North America. There was a good discussion about this in another thread about the business-side of football (soccer to the US folks) in Europe and how their fans stick with their team through thick and thin. For them its not only about winning, but in US-sports terms its more about achieving more each year. If your team had a losing season, then the fans' expectations/focus would be getting to a .500 season. If your team consistently ends above .500, then the focus is on making the playoffs. If your team consistently makes the playoffs, then its about progressing in the playoffs. The European fans all make realistic expectations for their teams and root for them passionately, while in North America it seems like theres too much of a "what have you done for me lately" attitude. The whole mentality of team-support is so different over there, and its really a shame that we don't see more of it in NA.Originally Posted by 651akathePaul
And that's true, but I don't live in other cities. I just know too many people that have a "reserve" team just in case Seattle doesn't pan out, and it extrapolates to the same attitude of only coming out when a team is winning.Originally Posted by DownyBoy
I think this is a problem that occurs across the majority of American sports team. If I was in the seattle area, I'd at least hit up a bunch of games with nose bleed tickets. I'd be there to support the players not necessarily management.Originally Posted by 651akathePaul
^ Exactly the same attitude people had towards the Sonics. Tell me how that turned out.
Seattle takes their teams for granted and only show up when they win.
The same issue was very evident in Minnesota as well, and it took an out-of-nowhere run to regenerate crowds, but when I was living over there for a bit I noticed that the team was still phenomenally followed, just that the metrodome was a crap venue and your couch was a much better option. Definitely not the case with Seattle. The Kingdome has been gone way too long.
Originally Posted by 651akathePaul
The O's aren't a big draw, no. I'm only bringing up the collective attitude of Seattle fans only caring or showing up, when the team is winning consistently. I don't peg you as someone in that category at all, but the majority of Seattle find excuses not to support their team. Until, that is, the team starts winning and they act like they've been there all along.
That general consensus annoys me. And I know the situation with the Sonics was messed up, but Seattle took them for granted for all those years and was giving excuses, then bam, they're gone and the same people who could careless when they were losing were trying to act like they were supporting team through thick and thin then find all the excuses in the world why it was the ownerships fault. Some blame goes towards Seattle.
I understand management plays a huge roll in how successful a team will be, however, management's choices and a teams overall success should not dictate whether or not you support a team. Trust me, I'm a raiders and Warriors fan, I know what it is to have crappy management. Nevertheless that doesn't mean I still don't try to catch a game whenever I'm back in town. Like I said, I'm their to support the players and the coaches, not necessarily management. Should players and/or coaches get out of hand to the point where I dislike them, then I might stop going to games.Originally Posted by Elpablo21
I think it goes both ways, previous management of this team screwed us over and it affected the support that the team currently gets, partially....but everyone knows Seattle's got a %#+* load of fair weather fans these days too
Anyway, unless you are talking about New York or Boston (and even Chicago, mostly for Cubs' fans actually), any town with baseball team in America is pretty much a fair-weather fans' city.
Please do not include Yankees fans as true fans. They're the biggest bunch of fair weather fans in all of sports. Most of the people at those games are there to for the scene and to tell their friends they're at the yankees game. You should have seen some of the headlines early last year and what people were saying in the streets. What a difference a championship ring makes.
Please do not include Yankees fans as true fans. They're the biggest bunch of fair weather fans in all of sports. Most of the people at those games are there to for the scene and to tell their friends they're at the yankees game. You should have seen some of the headlines early last year and what people were saying in the streets. What a difference a championship ring makes.Originally Posted by DownyBoy
Anyway, unless you are talking about New York or Boston (and even Chicago, mostly for Cubs' fans actually), any town with baseball team in America is pretty much a fair-weather fans' city.