:::[Official] San Francisco 49ers 2024 Season Thread [2-2 vs Cardinals 10/07 1:05PST]:::

[niketalker23]

Injuries or no injuries. They should’ve won the Rams, Cardinals and Seahawks games. They were in control of all 3 of those games until late in the 4th quarter. Injuries weren’t why they lost those games. Hell if they simply win 2 of those games, they’re comfortably in first place and in control of the division right now.

Kyle is a good coach. Even if he ends being the fall guy at some point here. I’ll still think he’s a good coach. He’s also not above some major self reflection and being receptive to valid criticism to fix some visible key flaws he has which are preventing him from being a great coach.

Sorrenson is the defensive coordinator. But Kyle ultimately hired him and Brandon Staley. This is a veteran team but they commit way too many undisciplined penalties for a veteran team. That’s a reflection on coaching. The main critiques of Kyle Shanahan are all valid takes until he gets over that final hump. Doesn’t mean he’s a bad coach in any way. But the great coaches adapt and evolve.

They absolutely should bring him back next season. But there’s room for improvement on his end.

Nobody is saying hes above the crticism. But saying he should be on the hot seat a bad year after 4 consecutive NFCG and 2 SB appearances is dumb to me. Great coaches do adapt and Kyle has done that, which is why he's had success with both Jimmy and Brock. He's gone from being a running team, to a YAC team, and this year the team was leading the league in deep completions. Of course there's room for improvement but they've been able to sustain success for a bunch of years now and I fully believe he can get us back on track next season.

 

[22stylez]

Nobody is saying hes above the crticism. But saying he should be on the hot seat a bad year after 4 consecutive NFCG and 2 SB appearances is dumb to me. Great coaches do adapt and Kyle has done that, which is why he's had success with both Jimmy and Brock. He's gone from being a running team, to a YAC team, and this year the team was leading the league in deep completions. Of course there's room for improvement but they've been able to sustain success for a bunch of years now and I fully believe he can get us back on track next season.

 

[Bosa]

Winter storm watch in Buffalo for Sunday

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

Nobody is saying hes above the crticism. But saying he should be on the hot seat a bad year after 4 consecutive NFCG and 2 SB appearances is dumb to me. Great coaches do adapt and Kyle has done that, which is why he's had success with both Jimmy and Brock. He's gone from being a running team, to a YAC team, and this year the team was leading the league in deep completions. Of course there's room for improvement but they've been able to sustain success for a bunch of years now and I fully believe he can get us back on track next season.

Fair enough. Good points on how Kyle has adapted his offense. But what Kyle doesn’t is adapt DURING games. That’s more important to me than changing up how his offense looks year after year. That’s some regular season type ish

But I don’t believe in Kyle like others do because what Kyle has proven is that he is a choke artist every time gets in close game situations. And I don’t think that will change.

To put in perspective, if you switched the coaches during the Super Bowl in Feb and put Spags and Reid on the 49ers and if Kyle and Wilks coached KC, the Niners win that game. Easily.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

People and especially the media keep saying Kyle’s quarterbacks are all “system quarterbacks” and this creates the illusion that Kyle is some sort of offensive genius or guru because his “system” turns average QB’s into winning quarterbacks.

But NOBODY in the media has the courage to call out Kyle and say that Shanahan is a “SYSTEM COACH” which in fact is a system he learned from his dad and Walsh.

Here’s why Kyle is a “system coach” and why it’s a great QB and a great receiver that makes Kyle’s system flourish and not the other way around:

Purdy has carried Kyle all year. Without Purdy the last two games, we have all seen how and why this is valid.

And secondly, a great coach makes adjustments DURING THE GAME so he can counter whatever adjustment his opponent made so that the coach can win the game and outsmart, outadjust, and out duel the opponent.

A system coach lets his system do the talking because the system is already in place therefore when everything is firing on all cylinders and clicking it looks flawless when great players and weapons are executing the “system.”

But when you have to step out of your scripted comfort zone, and average players are executing his plays and the system is running on some doo doo speakers instead of top of the line subwoofers, then it becomes difficult for the system coach to adapt on the fly and optimize the talents on the roster to devise an alternative game plan, and therefore the system could actually cause the coach to lose games because the coach is afraid to take risks and step out of his scripted comfort zone.

This is Kyle Shanahan, he a straight system coach.

 

[letsgetit22]

Belichick is 83-101 without Brady.

He’s 1-2 in the playoffs without Brady. You know who that 1 win is against? The Patriots.

I don't think they should hire BB at all. But his record without Brady is kind of an unfair critique. He had Drew Bledsoe as his starting qb before Brady and last leg Cam Newton and Mac Jones after...not to mention he went 11-5 in 2008 with Matt Cassel. But all it means is that, it's important to have a good qb. I don't even remember any sold backups they had other than Jimmy G and he won games with him when Brady went down. I believe Jimmy was undefeated. Yes Brady won a superpower without BB, but let's not act like the bucs didn't have crazy talent around him. His cleveland browns record shouldn't even count. He had Vinny Testaverde and a whole bunch of other no name qbs. He still had an 11-5 season there.
If Kyle had to coach a full season with Brandon Allen, this team would most likely be at the bottom of the league. That also wouldn't be a knock on Kyle's coaching abilities.

 

[DonRafa]