:::[Official] San Francisco 49ers 2024 Season Thread [2-2 vs Cardinals 10/07 1:05PST]:::

[Final Bosa]

I hope we get in the playoffs.. if we don't I truly believe it is that Rams game that cost us for sure. 2nd and 1... spread formation. Still lose sleep over that sometimes lmao

 

[cedric ceballos]

anyone going to the game against the skins?

also, has anyone gone to that 49ers red zone rally before the games?  if so is it worth going to?  i'm looking at it on stubhub, it says you get all you can eat and all you can drink.  i'm thinking about copping a ticket to it for the next home game.

 

[tehcack]

anyone going to the game against the skins?

also, has anyone gone to that 49ers red zone rally before the games?  if so is it worth going to?  i'm looking at it on stubhub, it says you get all you can eat and all you can drink.  i'm thinking about copping a ticket to it for the next home game.

I'm still debating on going to that game or not. but save your money for the red zone rally. their version of all you can eat and drink is hot dogs and bud light. they even offer premium beers for extra money even though you paid 85 bucks just to get in.

 

[cedric ceballos]

Damn, just hot dogs and beer I wonder how much extra the premium beer is. I seem them selling tickets for it on stubborn in the $50 range.

 

[cato312]

Damn, just hot dogs and beer I wonder how much extra the premium beer is. I seem them selling tickets for it on stubborn in the $50 range.

Maybe it was just for the opener but they had much more than hot dogs. Bbq, brisket, shrimp, wings, pastas, etc. I thought I got my $$ worth...FWIW

 

[tehcack]

Maybe it was just for the opener but they had much more than hot dogs. Bbq, brisket, shrimp, wings, pastas, etc. I thought I got my $$ worth...FWIW

I think that was just the first game. I've had friends express their displeasure with the pricing that went. to be honest once I found out it was bud light It was a no go for me regardless. 85 bucks and u give all u can drink bud light. premium beers cost 15 for a 12 pack. they are obviously in it for the money.

 

[red80]

Watching the Browns execute a contemporary west coast offense makes me sad and pissed.

SMFH

 

[nothingtol0se]

Watching the Browns execute a contemporary west coast offense makes me sad and pissed.



SMFH

strong this. looking so jooooooocy

 

[niketalker23]

So would you guys be ok with another head coach since is it basically guarantees another OC?

 

[lightweight champion]

No. Brent Jones was on with Tom Tolbert earlier this week and he said Roman is getting much of the blame but it's ultimately Jim's call to make. Jim is not going down using someone else's playcalling.

But, logically speaking, no. I do not want a new coach. niketalker23 , you're a Kings fan like myself and @tSamShoX, and Vivek Ranadive says you can't build a successful company by having guys all in agreement with one another because when something doesn't work the problem then is not easily resolved. The greatest minds also have the greatest egos, but you want the best people on your team because it produces the greatest results. It would take some deep research to come up with a name that everyone here would say, "Yeah, I'd take him over Jim."

I'd also have to assume Lord Fangio leaves with Jim if Jim is, in fact, let go. So, who does that leave? Jim Tomsula? I love the guy, he's been amazing for our D-Line but he's never been a coordinator. The last we hired someone straight from position coach to head coach it went horribly wrong.

 

[red80]

I generally agree. There are too many unknowns if we get rid of Harbaugh.

If Harbaugh goes, does Fangio go? What about Kap? He is Harbaugh's QB after all, and if hes having this much trouble with a former QB as his coach, how much will he regress without him? If Tomsula becomes head coach, will Fangio and the rest of the staff be willing to work under their former d line coach? Who becomes Tomsula's OC? Too many unknown variables and everything can unravel into a cluster**** quickly.


I am starting to think the source of the problem is Kaepernick and Harbaugh's desire to mold the offense around him; its literally like forcing a round peg into a square hole. Why did we originally switch to Kap? because he could get the ball down field? We dont utilize the vertical passing game because Kap has trouble consistently making touch passes, doesn't see the field and has tons of issues staying/moving in the pocket. Or was it because of his running ability? Not only do they limit his running to prevent injury, but teams have caught onto the zone read so there goes the running advantage. So, why did we switch again? With Alex, our offense wasnt explosive or flashy but it was effective as hell and we knew what we were going to do: run the ball, high percentage passes and play D. Today, the offense has completely lost any sort of identity it had and has become so god damn dysfunctional.

 

[dland24]

I generally agree. There are too many unknowns if we get rid of Harbaugh.

If Harbaugh goes, does Fangio go? What about Kap? He is Harbaugh's QB after all, and if hes having this much trouble with a former QB as his coach, how much will he regress without him? If Tomsula becomes head coach, will Fangio and the rest of the staff be willing to work under their former d line coach? Who becomes Tomsula's OC? Too many unknown variables and everything can unravel into a cluster**** quickly.


I am starting to think the source of the problem is Kaepernick and Harbaugh's desire to mold the offense around him; its literally like forcing a round peg into a square hole. Why did we originally switch to Kap? because he could get the ball down field? We dont utilize the vertical passing game because Kap has trouble consistently making touch passes, doesn't see the field and has tons of issues staying/moving in the pocket. Or was it because of his running ability? Not only do they limit his running to prevent injury, but teams have caught onto the zone read so there goes the running advantage. So, why did we switch again? With Alex, our offense wasnt explosive or flashy but it was effective as hell and we knew what we were going to do: run the ball, high percentage passes and play D. Today, the offense has completely lost any sort of identity it had and has become so god damn dysfunctional.

This is where you lost me. Our offense was no where near "effective as hell."

 

[lightweight champion]

We definitely weren't flashy like the packers, patriots, Saints, or Broncos. But there is something that Alex did that Colin still does, and that's put the defense in a bad position. We all got on Alex for throwing it away if his initial read wasn't there, as well as not looking down the field as much as we all wanted him to. But in the year and a half under harbaugh Alex threw 10 INTs including the playoffs. Since Kap has taken over the helm he's thrown 20. What befuddles me is his first year he had a knack for shaking off a mistake by making a great play the next time out. I haven't seen that since the start of last year, his mistakes compile and it leaves us *****ing and groaning.

 

[red80]

What happened to the whams and the traps and the counters? It all disappeared in favor of the stupid *** pistol formation and the read option and now, it has veered to the extreme of the spread.


Kap is the reason this offense has strayed and its Harbaugh's fault for trying to accommodate him. @Lightweight Champion is right, we need to start pointing the finger at Harbaugh and not at fat ****.

 

[champcruthik]

Are you guys labeling the Saints game a must-win? Hostile environment in the Dome, where Brees and Payton perform significantly better.

 

[jonwin]

Are you guys labeling the Saints game a must-win? Hostile environment in the Dome, where Brees and Payton perform significantly better.

Well, let's just say dropping to 4-5 isn't gonna help them get any closer in the playoff hunt.

 

[flyerthandelta]

MUST WIN vs saints or the season is a wrap!!!!!

 

[hometownhero]

Are you guys labeling the Saints game a must-win? Hostile environment in the Dome, where Brees and Payton perform significantly better.

Yep. I think we need at least 11 to make the playoffs. We can't lose this and expect to win out. 

 

[champcruthik]

Man, I hope you guys do it. I owe nothing to New Orleans or the other NFC West teams, although I enjoy and appreciate STL's youthful defensive talent and Arizona is a feel-good story given the detriments facing Arians with player personnel. Kaep's my guy, beat the Saints.

 

[red80]

[h1]Colts OC Pep Hamilton Is the NFL's Hottest Head Coaching Candidate[/h1]
There was something I remember Matt Hasselbeck, backup quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts, telling me about offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton, 40, last season. It went like this:

Pep sees and remembers everything. It's almost like he has a photographic memory. He and Andrew Luck are a perfect tandem because Andrew also sees everything. I also think Pep is a great combination of strategist and listener. He takes in all input and listens to the players, but in the end he makes the decisions. That's the kind of coach you want.

I didn't use quotes above because I didn't record the interview, but that representation is pretty accurate. I can tell you that one of the best-liked and most respected people in that entire organization is Hamilton. One of the best-liked and most respected people in football is Hamilton.

To say the NFL has Hamilton on its radar is an understatement. Based on what I'm hearing from a number of team officials, he is the hottest head coaching candidate in all of football. (Adam Gase, the Broncos' offensive coordinator, is considered a close second, though he is penalized—maybe unfairly—by some in the league for the perception that Peyton Manning is the Broncos' true offensive coordinator.)

Several league sources say Hamilton will be among the leading candidates, if not the leading candidate, with two different high-profile teams should they make coaching changes. Hamilton would be a strong consideration in San Francisco, several sources say, as an alternative to the hard-charging (and that's putting it nicely) Jim Harbaugh.

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The other discussed scenario among some team executives is if the Giants fail to make the playoffs again, Hamilton would replace Tom Coughlin.

Now, to be clear, these are scouts and personnel men speculating, but this type of speculation is often rooted in some sort of fact. In the NFL, speculation often becomes reality.

What's certain is that Hamilton will have his pick of a number of jobs once the season ends. Good jobs. Great jobs.

Not that Hamilton should be in too big a hurry to leave Luck, 25, maybe the best young quarterback we've seen since Peyton Manning, but if Harbaugh whines and moans his way out of San Francisco, the 49ers would do pretty well to land Hamilton.

While some Colts fans have had a complex relationship with Hamilton, what I can tell you is that within the sport overall, among coaches and executives, there is nothing but extreme respect for him. The main reason, I'm told, is how well he's brought along Luck—slowly, deliberately, patiently. Hamilton relied on the running game (maybe too much so last season) initially as a way of protecting his QB, then as the signal-caller grew exponentially, allowed Luck to be Luck.

The only criticism I hear of Hamilton's offense is that Luck takes too many big shots from defenders. And that is true. There isn't a quarterback in football who takes nastier hits than Luck, not even the running QBs like Colin Kaepernick or Russell Wilson.

In January, ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Hamilton was a candidate for the Vanderbilt head coaching job. Think about how quickly Hamilton has risen.

Vanderbilt? Hamilton's stock has become so valuable, so rapidly, the idea of him going to Vanderbilt now is laughable. Unless Vanderbilt now plays in the NFC West.

One general manager said this of Hamilton: "He is almost as good a head coaching prospect as Luck was a quarterback prospect coming out of Stanford."

That might be a little much, but I can tell you these are the kinds of things being said about Hamilton across the league.

What does it all mean?

See you in San Fran next year, Pep.

 

[lightweight champion]

That's a pretty bold prediction.

 

[moiety]

Matt Barrows ‏@mattbarrows 56s57 seconds ago
Dan Skuta (ankle) was on hand for the start of #49ers practice but Patrick Willis (toe) was not. Chris Borland likely to start vs. #Saints.

Obviously Borland balled last weekend, but damn Willis' toe injury is no joke

 

[red80]

 

[offbad]

... you had a bleacherreport article alert you?

 

[red80]

No, a 49er app I have on my phone alerted me of the bleacher report article.