:::[Official] San Francisco 49ers 2024 Season Thread [2-2 vs Cardinals 10/07 1:05PST]:::

[red81]

not a huge fan of John Ross. 

tbh, me either. he's got a scary list of injuries. 

 acl, 2 meniscus, microfracture and soon-to-be shoulder.

but the back i'm most excited about, is joe mixon. question is, does the FO/Kyle feel like taking a chance?

doubt it, man. after all the harping on doing things the right way and drafting guys we'll be proud of, i can't see it happening.

 

[bentrill]

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article132650344.html


Good read about how the defense might look.

Can dontae johnson finally eat?

 

[red81]

it looks like an island...

 

 

[bentrill]

What are your thoughts on tony jefferson?

I wouldnt want the niners to sign him but there is hype about him going into FA?

Cant wait to hopefully see some of these niner players playing in a good scheme

 

[jonwin]

How 49ers’ personnel fits a Seattle-style defense

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article132650344.html

 

[red81]

How 49ers’ personnel fits a Seattle-style defense

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article132650344.html

Damn, I am impressed with Barrow's football knowledge. Most columnist don't know a damn thing about football lol.

 

[jonwin]

Damn, I am impressed with Barrow's football knowledge. Most columnist don't know a damn thing about football lol.

You should tweet that to him verbatim

 

[red81]

playing around with my mock, and I can't seem to put together a permutation that leaves me satisfied with the WRs we walk away with.

after corey davis, its so blah for me if you really want to turn a weakness into a strength. and that's including mike williams.

corey davis and taywan taylor is my favorite combination. corey davis and torrey smith with taywan taylor in the slot. that's ******* nasty. corey does damage everywhere. all three dudes can hurt you over the top.

 

[heatseeker23]

Kaep fired his agent and hired a new one gearing up for his meeting with Shanny, [emoji]128064[/emoji], still hoping Kaep hit the road, Jack!

 

[moiety]

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Gabriel is a FA

 

[22stylez]

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Gabriel is a FA

Nahhhh he said he wants to be a falcon for life. Don't play with my emotions man

 

[red81]

He's a restricted free agent. Have to give up a first or secound round pick to sign him.

 

[heatseeker23]

Dude really just spelled 'weaknesses' as 'weakness is' twice in a row, hopefully it is just autocorrect or  

 

 

[22stylez]

Dude really just spelled 'weaknesses' as 'weakness is' twice in a row, hopefully it is just autocorrect or    

Maybe cause he never used the word weaknesses cause he never had any his whole life?

 

[heatseeker23]

 

[heatseeker23]

I guess he's trying to say Kyle Shanahan is quick enough to take advantage of a singular weakness before the team is aware of it, but the way he worded it is pretty confusing, not to mention the fact that he used 'weakness is' twice in the same sentence is redundant. 

Would have been more clear if he had said "Kyle Shanahan takes advantage of what your weaknesses ARE before you ARE AWARE OF THEM" 

or

"Kyle Shanahan takes advantage of your weakness before you are even aware of that weakness". 

Its these Texas boys coming out of the state with 43rd worst ranked educational system. 

 

[red81]

[h1]Texas Tech QB Pat Mahomes has the arm talent Shanahan says he’s looking for[/h1]
I’m going to tie together two newsworthy items that’ve happened within the last week:

1) NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport has reported some NFL teams have big-armed Texas Tech quarterback Pat Mahomes as their top QB option in the draft.

2) Kyle Shanahan went on the record saying arm talent is the best way to win in the NFL at the quarterback position.

“There’s a very natural ability in the throwing and if you don’t have that, it’s very hard to succeed in this league,” Shanahan told beat writers after last Thursday’s press conference. “You are always looking for one of those seven throwers on the planet, whatever that number is. I’m guessing there’s only around seven.”

There’s only one consensus elite arm talent in the 2017 NFL Draft, and that’s Mahomes. The strapping 6-foot-3, 220 pounder has a rocket launcher attached to his right arm. I’m not going to pretend like I’ve watched hours of film on him, so here’s NFL.com’s scouting report on him.

Possesses NFL body type for work inside and out of the pocket. Has an undeniable swagger and confidence to his game. Accuracy has improved in each season since his freshman year. Naturally accurate in his every day throws. Comfortable challenging defenders in space. Has arm strength and fearlessness to attack the cover-2 voids down the sideline. Can make deep, field side throws. Cranks up velocity to fit passes into tight windows. Former pitcher who propels hips through his release with aggressive torque and never gets cheated on his follow-through. Can deliver strikes from a variety of arm angles.  

It’s actually Mahomes’ baseball background that could fascinate Shanahan the most. Last season was the first-ever year Mahomes focused solely on football and the jump in his game — leading the nation in touchdowns (53) and passing yards (5,052) all while throwing just 10 interceptions and completing 65.7 percent of his passes — was astronomical.

In the era of the Elite 11 quarterback camps and parents who start training their kid to become an NFL quarterback at 12 years old, Mahomes is a breath of fresh air. Baseball was always his biggest focus growing up. He was a relief pitcher for the Red Raiders his first two years in Lubbock. He’s really a piece of clay ready to be properly molded.

“He could’ve gotten drafted in baseball very high had he decided to go that route. His dad was a major league pitcher for 11 years,” Texas Tech head coach Kliff Kingsbury told KNBR 1050 on Wednesday. “So he never grew up with the quarterback gurus, or quarterback coaches, or even going to quarterback camps. And his development in the three years I had him is just through the roof.” 

If Mahomes’ arm is so special, why isn’t he a clearcut prospect such as Andrew Luck or Jameis Winston? Well he had a bad habit of turning games into street ball and in needing to score points to win in the Big 12, Kingsbury was okay with letting him develop bad habits. Mahomes often looks to force a big play down the field than hit the wide open receiver underneath and he can flea the pocket just to try and make something happen. He’ll obviously have to adjust to taking snaps under center. Are those major road blocks or are those minor aspects Shanahan can correct?

And you obviously have to mention Texas Tech has an immense history of quarterbacks who stockpile statistics. Kingsbury was one of them, Graham Harrell was another, so was B.J. Symons. The trio of Red Raiders made a few waves in NFL Europe and the CFL, but couldn’t hack it on Sunday’s in the NFL. Pigeonholing Mahomes into the category is very unwise, but if he is a colossal bust, the proof will be in the pudding of Texas Tech’s Air-Rad offense.

Shanahan won’t be able to solely tell from the tape if he can coach this kid into a franchise quarterback. Breaking bad habits and the willingness to take hard coaching takes certain attributes from a quarterback. He and John Lynch are going to have to have lengthy sit downs with Mahomes at the scouting combine in Indianapolis. He’ll be poked and prodded; quizzed on offensive concepts and defensive schemes. Lynch and Shanahan need to know there’s a mind behind the arm.

I remember hearing this in my time in Cleveland: Shanahan demanded quarterbacks play within his system. Chief among the many reasons Johnny Manziel wasn’t able to see the field much his rookie year, was that he had a penchant for leaning on unscripted plays. This could be a total turnoff from Shanahan and Mahomes could be crossed off the list sooner than some realize.

Or Shanahan can pull up the tape and be reminded of Jay Cutler, a common comparison of Mahomes’ ceiling.

What is apparent now is that Mahomes is no longer a sleeper. There’s talk of the Chicago Bears stunning the world and taking him No. 3 overall, but more and more mock drafts have him appearing in the first round. CBS Sports has the Cleveland Browns taking him with their second first-round pick at No. 12 overall.

The 49ers are developing a reputation for rolling the dice. Lynch was an outside-the-box hire. Expected defensive coordinator Robert Saleh was another example of taking a chance on an important position.

Is Mahomes next?

 

[heatseeker23]

Interesting read but not sure if strongest arm is best thing to look for Kaep shoots like a canon and look at him

 

[red81]

in regards to arm talent, kap has a strong arm, but he also has a slow delivery in the form of a long wind up. He muscles most of his throws, and that almost negates his arm strength on a lot of his passes because of how long it takes him to set up.

mahomes has a strong arm and a quick delivery+release. the ball gets out quick and effortless when he's humming.


arm strength isn't everything, but it is a very important attribute.




more to mahomes than just a cannon: https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/C4wBxKuXUAEBMT8.mp4

 

[heatseeker23]

arm strength isn't everything, but it is a very important attribute.

 

This is my opinion too, feel like Shanahan giving to much credit to strength when what's really been killing us is accuracy. 

 

[red81]

Shanny wants to go deep, so he needs a guy that can push the ball down the field. 

 

[22stylez]

Mahomes gotta be the guy. Red how's Trubisky and Watsons arm strength compared to mahomes

Kizer got a rocket too don't he?

 

[red81]

Patrick Mahomes has the strongest arm followed closely by Kizer. Watson and Trubisky are also pretty close in terms of arm strength. They've both got good arms. 

elite - mahomes

great - kizer

good - watson/trubisky

 

[red81]

 
it's starting to happen, boys. right on cue. This time, we can't sit back and watch.

http://www.49ers.com/video/videos/W...000e-7df1-45e0-81ee-4abb83bf57a1?sf56531189=1

 

[red81]

a preview of what our defensive scheme will look like:



dont forget that we started the "seattle style of defense" **** 

 

the WCO is back 

the Seifert defense is back 

it truly is a return to our roots 

man, BY was such a beast. check out the beautiful hand work. chops the hands away and gets past the right guard with a rip.