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Bowman declares victory over Rep. Engel in stunning N.Y. primary upset despite outstanding mail-in ballots


I criticize the Democratic Party a great deal you’d have to admit that it is a far better vehicle for black uplift than the GOP.

The situation with Bowman illustrates that. The a Democratic Party sucks because its senior leadership endorsed the more conservative, white incumbent. But ultimately, the Democratic House Caucus will be younger, lefter and black this time next year.
 
I criticize the Democratic Party a great deal you’d have to admit that it is a far better vehicle for black uplift than the GOP.

The situation with Bowman illustrates that. The a Democratic Party sucks because its senior leadership endorsed the more conservative, white incumbent. But ultimately, the Democratic House Caucus will be younger, lefter and black this time next year.

I will admit that the Democratic Party certainly has the potential to be a far better vehicle for black uplift over the GOP. They have been that way for a while, despite the current state of affairs.

I'd even go as far as to admit that on paper their goals/initiatives/policies are much better for black uplift.

The issue is their seeming inability to translate the goals/initiatives into meaningful legislation. And while it is great to have a bunch of great ideas on paper, if they are incapable of playing politics to get the measures passed, then I think that it is better to be able to push for legislation through the other party.

I think you'd have to admit that Trump can strong-arm the Republicans in Congress to get legislation passed that might not be able to pass under a Democratic president.
 
and for 6,000 attendees. half of whom were paid off :rofl:

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/barr-...o-try-and-undermine-michael-cohens-conviction
Barr Reportedly Told DOJ Officials to Try and Undermine Michael Cohen’s Conviction

The same day that Attorney General William Barr insisted there is “no pattern” of him working to advance the personal interests of President Donald Trump, several sources cited by The New York Times said one of his first moves after being sworn into office in early 2019 was trying to find ways to undermine the conviction of longtime Trump fixer Michael Cohen.

Barr had reportedly repeatedly questioned prosecutors over the charges against Cohen, who pleaded guilty in August 2018 to financial crimes that included hush-money payments to women who alleged they had affairs with Trump. He went so far as to instruct Justice Department officials to draft a legal memo casting doubt on the legitimacy of Cohen’s conviction, according to sources cited by the Times, but they refused to do so.
 
I will admit that the Democratic Party certainly has the potential to be a far better vehicle for black uplift over the GOP. They have been that way for a while, despite the current state of affairs.

I'd even go as far as to admit that on paper their goals/initiatives/policies are much better for black uplift.

The issue is their seeming inability to translate the goals/initiatives into meaningful legislation. And while it is great to have a bunch of great ideas on paper, if they are incapable of playing politics to get the measures passed, then I think that it is better to be able to push for legislation through the other party.

I think you'd have to admit that Trump can strong-arm the Republicans in Congress to get legislation passed that might not be able to pass under a Democratic president.
Passing legislation that contains language that makes it unenforceable is a staple in the GOP bag of tricks. I'd rather see a bill fail to reach the president's desk than get it up there to satisfy talking heads and gain some people political points while in practice, the issues it's supposed to solve remain unaddressed.

The past three decades have shown us the cost of passing bad bills for the sake of expediency, but folks still don't want to learn.
 
wada is for like olympics.. if mlb or nfl wanna to that route, sure

but I disagree for the olympics and world championships
I get what you're saying but I promise you if they drug test how they actually should a vast majority of participants would get popped for something. All olympic athletes are pros too so they have just as much if not more incentive to use PEDs because its one every 4 years. Drugs and sports just go together.
 

Listen Jack, I'm old and stringy. Trump, he's fat and plump, eat him.

To be fair, it's a different ball game when the powerful is the minority. All it takes for the oppressed majority is to not care about their lives and throw all their bodies at you. Ain't no winning there: it's either accusations of genocide and international sanctions or giving up the power. That's what was going to happen in SA.

YOu're right that by the 1980's, Apartheid was going to fall apart due the numbers and solidarity of non white South Africans. Perhaps if the Boers had started in the 1960's, granting some measure of leadership roles in business and electoral politics to blacks, the whites could have kept most of the black and colored South Africans in poverty and the whites would have been able to maintain control over most of the capital in the Country and maintain apartheid as a legal entity. Although, this system of white control of wealth and concessions to black South Africans is pretty much what South Africa has now.



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Not a chance of it happening but she'd be my favorite VP pick if Joe does go with a black woman as his running mate


Not a chance in hell. If Biden did nominate her, I'd cover my car in Biden bumper stickers and change my avy to a wave emoji in front of a coffee cup next to a Hogworts house. I'd make my signature something about snark and how we need to put the smart people in charge.
 
Everybody already does it anyway, why waste the time chasing it? It doesn't give enough of a competitive advantage for someone to make it to a level they shouldn't already be at.
Can't rock with this argument

Everyone is not doing it today, that is just an assumption people are making that is mostly because the cheaters that get caught always say this. However, there is no evidence "everyone is doing it" right now. And to prove such a thing you would need, guess what, widespread testing over a sustained period of time, with b-samples getting re-tested when new testing methods come along. So yeah, lots of time and effort. I do believe drug used is more rampant than the average sports fan realizes, without question, but I believe there would be a massive difference in drug usage if we moved to a system of no testing. "Everyone is doing it" is conjecture. Conjecture you need to act like is fact for your argument to work.

In a system with no testing you have major issues too:

First, you will incentize amatuer athletes to dope also, without doctor supervision, because they will feel they need it to dope to keep up. I will address the competitive advantage argument next. But what are we gonna do with all the amateur athletes that aspire to play professionally. You are basically telling them that at some point you have to dope because your peers are. doing it too. So are we gonna trust this young people to somehow hold off until they sign a pro contract. If you say test the amateurs, welp that would destroy you "why waste time" argument, because there are way more amatuer athletes than pros. So if we are gonna police young amtuer athletes, then we have the time to police older professionals.

Second, If we were to look at the most doping riddled sport in the last few decades it would probably be cycling. A sport I am weirdly a avid fan of. America's, and the world's, most famous doper is probably Lance Armstrong. Putting aside Lance Armstrong was ******* and sociopath, Armstrong was also a generational talent in cycling he was blowing away clean dudes his age before he went over to Europe. When he went over to Europe, damn near everyone doped, especially with EPO. The generational talent then was getting his *** handed to him. So Armstrong had a decision: either stay clean and struggle to make the final few roster spots on a team, leave the sport because he could not keep up, or dope to be competitive. He chose to dope and the rest is history. If doping doesn't make a difference, then why would a dude that was facing question about him doping ever since his first Tour de France win, a dude that was hounded constantly in press, continue to dope if it made no difference. The answer he gives.....is because all his major opponents were doping (most were) and if he didn't dope he would not win the Tour de France.

ut in the sport other talents flamed out, and other that chose to dope did so recklessly and actually killed themselves. Dudes in their 20s were having heart attacks and strokes because of EPO. All because there was system were first there was no test for EPO, or when there was a test could be easily beaten.

So people with talent will be forced to make the decision of either having to dope of having to he at a major competitive advantage. If an athlete wants to stay clean and compete at a high level, that option might be off the table for many.

You stop the anti-doping measures, with what is out there, the entire professional sports world will look like European cycling in the 90s, it won't stay at whatever status quo we have now. The microdosing and medical exemptions that go on today, with be replaced with athletes on numerous very dangerous ****.

Society sees participating and watching sports and one of our major leisure activities. And we should make the investment to protect the athletes that want to stay clean, and protect them from themselves.

So, getting rid of anti-doping measures is a bad idea.
 
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