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You were better off running with the whole cases happen all the time without witnesses thing
now that may be the case because there are no witnesses with direct evidence.. but at least it fits your narrative
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You were better off running with the whole cases happen all the time without witnesses thing
now that may be the case because there are no witnesses with direct evidence.. but at least it fits your narrative
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BERNIE SANDERS CAMPAIGN CALLS NEW DEBATE CRITERIA A 'RIGGED SYSTEM' AFTER DNC REMOVES DONOR THRESHOLD
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Bernie Sanders Campaign Calls New DNC Debate Criteria a 'Rigged System'
A DNC rule change that removes individual donor requirements for presidential candidates to participate in debates was deemed part of a "rigged system" by the Bernie Sanders campaign on Friday.
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Again with the lies.
The spirit of the impeachment provision was to allow the removal of the president in case he could no longer be trusted with putting the interest of the nation above his own.
It's with the same intent that the emoluments clause was adopted, to guarantee that the president wouldn't sell out the country for personal gain.
What part of exchanging weapons and an official visit with the announcement of a dubious investigation into an opposition member is for the interest of the country?
If everything is true, that is:
- if Trump masterminded the smear campaign against his own anti-corruption ambassador prior to the election of Zelensky, while sending aid to Ukraine at the same time;
- if aid stopped after the election of Zelensky, who campaigned on anti-corruption;
- if aid was supposed to resume after the announcement of the investigation into the Bidens;
How does any of this not rise to a degree of offense that warrants removal?
Do you trust to not send US troops on an ill-fated mission against the promise of a few more bucks in his pockets? I don't. Do you trust him to not crash the US economy in exchange for a trump tower in a tax heaven or in a country without an extradition treaty with the US? I don't.
Those who do are fools.
This is what impeachment is about.
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Whole new level of stupid
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I respect your opinion. Tons of Democratic Senators have this opinion as well. But I think that the majority of Senators will agree with the view that these actions do not rise to the level of removal. And I think the acquittal will be bipartisan.
To answer your last two questions directly, yes to both.
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Again... you don't prove innocence. You are innocent until proven guilty. The House managers stated that they've already overwhelmingly proved the guilt "beyond ALL doubt." - Nadler. Ergo, they don't feel they need any other witnesses to prove their case.
What's left is a vote on acquittal.
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dwalk31
Despite the most blatantly obvious falsification, you refused to admit that the WH doctored that weather report and insisted “how would I know?” in response to repeated questions.
As everyone with a functioning brain knew from the very second they saw it, the WH did indeed doctor that report according to a new NOAA FOIA release.
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A Definitive Timeline Of The Trump-Ukraine Story
The past few weeks have been a firestorm of revelations concerning the DNI whistleblower and Ukraine-Donald Trump-Joe and Hunter Biden stories.
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Hunter Biden joins the board after the Maidan revolution, in 2014. The events that are being investigated happened before 2014, under Yanukovitch. While Hunter is on the board, the Ukrainian prosecutor general shelves the investigation on Burisma during Yanukovitch's term, which angers the US and the rest of the international community. Christine Lagarde threatens to withhold funds, and so does Biden (the 1 billion dollars comment) UNLESS they continue investigating BURISMA.
Bad optics to have Hunter on the board when Daddy is VP of the US? Yes.
Now, how would the Bidens benefit from an investigation into Burisma?
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A Definitive Timeline Of The Trump-Ukraine Story
The past few weeks have been a firestorm of revelations concerning the DNI whistleblower and Ukraine-Donald Trump-Joe and Hunter Biden stories.talkingpointsmemo.com
Hunter Biden joins the board after the Maidan revolution, in 2014. The events that are being investigated happened before 2014, under Yanukovitch. While Hunter is on the board, the Ukrainian prosecutor general shelves the investigation on Burisma during Yanukovitch's term, which angers the US and the rest of the international community. Christine Lagarde threatens to withhold funds, and so does Biden (the 1 billion dollars comment) UNLESS they continue investigating BURISMA.
Bad optics to have Hunter on the board when Daddy is VP of the US? Yes.
Now, how would the Bidens benefit from an investigation into Burisma?
Wasn't Joe Biden demanding they fire a prosecutor?
Also, you are asking how the Bidens benefit when Hunter was literally working for the board, and getting paid, at the time of the investigation you are talking about?
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- the GOP: "We believe the president did abuse his powers, and we believe the president obstructed congress. We won't remove him because we are above the Constitution."
Y'all lost at slavery, civil war, and segregation. Y'all will lose at dismantling the US too.
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If you're not going to use the timeline provided, and if you're going to be vague about what/who was being investigated, don't reply to me.
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The Obama administration criticized the prosecutor (Viktor Shokin) for not properly investigating Burisma. As even Fox News reports, as well as the corrupt prosecutor's deputy, the Burisma investigation was dormant. Firing Shokin made it more likely to ramp up the investigation.
The IMF and the EU also wanted Shokin gone. The UK was also conducting an investigation into Burisma's owner and Shokin obstructed that investigation. The UK was forced to shut down their investigation and unfreeze Zlochevsky's assets because Shokin kept stonewalling the UK probe.
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Do you feel Hunter Biden working on the board was inappropriate?
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Of course. Everyone knows the only reason he was hired was because of his last name.
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exactly
dacomeup
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Imagine arguing that an impeachment for infidelity is a lasting stain and an impeachment for soliciting a foreign power to investigate a political opponent is can be turned into a badge of honor. 
All for an extra few hundred bucks a check. I really hope that it's worth it.
All for an extra few hundred bucks a check. I really hope that it's worth it.
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Of course it’s worth it when you are a greedy pig. Money > everything.
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Imagine arguing that an impeachment for infidelity is a lasting stain and an impeachment for soliciting a foreign power to investigate a political opponent is can be turned into a badge of honor.
All for an extra few hundred bucks a check. I really hope that it's worth it.
1. Impeachment for perjury; and
2. Clinton ran as a traditional politician. Trump was elected AFTER a tape leaked of him saying grab em by the p***y.
Obviously the standards are different.
The impeachment won't be as big of a deal for trump because so many other things stand out more (Stormy Daniels, his tweets, etc.).
But he ran on being nonconventional in that way.
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I still need to bump this new Wayne
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dacomeup
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So encouraging a foreign power to investigate a political opponent is ok because you've already done worse things and you ran on draining the swamp, but lying about a blow job is a Scarlet letter. Basically, since we already know Trump is a compulsive liar, scumbag, grifter, etc., then the calculus is that this can't get much worse. Yes, his base of people like you who will defend him at every turn regardless isn't changing.Who doubts that?
Yes, his base of people like you who will defend him at every turn regardless isn't changing.Who doubts that?
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So encouraging a foreign power to investigate a political opponent is ok because you've already done worse things and you ran on draining the swamp, but lying about a blow job is a Scarlet letter. Basically, since we already know Trump is a compulsive liar, scumbag, grifter, etc., then the calculus is that this can't get much worse.
I said the phone call was inappropriate, earlier, when
frenchbreadbuilds
asked.Just as others have said Hunter's position on the Burisma board was inappropriate.
Not saying it is "ok." I'm saying it won't be the long-lasting blemish for Trump because people have tons of other controversial things to remember about his presidency. He ran on being controversial.
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