***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[essential1]

I pray it's Newt... The fun that would bring

Hell Christie is good too... So much fun

 

[deleted]

   nah... this guy...

That's hilarious because VKM is more qualified to be president than Trump

 

[Master Zik]

Typical liberal fear mongering. Don't like emotions trick you into giving up your rights.

As opposed to conservative fear mongering?

Tell you it's bound to happen again so you should give up your rights for a false sense of security?

 

[rico x hood]

What rights are they asking me to give up?

And full disclosure, I don't even own a gun. But when I get around to getting one or three I'll be damned if I'm not able to because some liberals told me I can't because of some crazies.

 

[ninjahood]

you're da one creating da logical fallacy thou

all i said is there's precedent for said policy, and your extrapolating it to something else.

And I'm pointing out that there isn't.

Suspending a refugee program because you found error in the screening =/= banning Muslims from entering the country.

he said a TEMPORARY ban, and its from countries with acrimonious relationships with da United States with known Terrorist problems.

like i said, precedent has already been set, ask your boy Jimmy Carter what he did to Iran folks who were already over here.

 

[Master Zik]

What rights are they asking me to give up

Patriot Act don't exist anymore?

Technically , I guess they aren't asking given they already took it but hey when they start making more lists, banning immigration well ignore w/e rights are being infringed upon then too.

 

[ben roethlisberger]

They aren't asking. They are taking advantage of the medias non stop discussion about banning rifles and the publics fear driven renouncing of their rights.

Media makes the issue an assault rifle issue, people adopt their views and in turn they beg for them to take the guns away. Then biden congratulates the people for making it happen lol

How ironic to have a weapons ban legislation titled We The People. Free thinking is absent in america.

 

[ben roethlisberger]

Theres roughly 30 million americans who own rifles. 5-10 million of them own AR-15's.

If it's a rifle issue and these many people own them, where's all the dead bodies at? Where's all these massacres?

More people are murdered by hammers than rifles. Should we ban hammers? 1 in every 3 people die of heart disease, lets ban cheeseburgers too.

This country has a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."

 

[ben roethlisberger]

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."

#truth

 

[RustyShackleford]

you're da one creating da logical fallacy thou

all i said is there's precedent for said policy, and your extrapolating it to something else.

And I'm pointing out that there isn't.

Suspending a refugee program because you found error in the screening =/= banning Muslims from entering the country.

he said a TEMPORARY ban, and its from countries with acrimonious relationships with da United States with known Terrorist problems.

like i said, precedent has already been set, ask your boy Jimmy Carter what he did to Iran folks who were already over here.

Oh ok, my boy Jimmy Carter. You see me riding for Jimmy Carter the way you ride for the bigoted piece of **** Trump.

But anyway, Jimmy Cater placed sanction on one country at was directly involved in conflict with America.

Trump's new idea, which is just in iteration of his previous more ridiculous one of all Muslims, will affect countries and people not directly in conflict with the United States. Some of which are allies. There being some sort precedent, which there isn't, doesn't stop it from being bigoted.

Even Paul Ryan is not engaging in the same mental gymnastics you're doing.

 

[RustyShackleford]

List of the things the media has tricked me into believing:

1. White Supremacy/Systemic Racism is a thing

2. That America has a gun problem.

If gun owners want to scream about mental health so much, then they should be down for paying a VAT on guns, ammo, and accessories to fund a national mental health system.

 

[rico x hood]

Patriot Act don't exist anymore?

Technically , I guess they aren't asking given they already took it but hey when they start making more lists, banning immigration well ignore w/e rights are being infringed upon then too.

True. Obama renewed it. In edition to enacting NDAA. Liberals just trampling on our rights left and right.


How to cook a frog indeed.

 

[ninjahood]

news flash, good intentions of protecting american citizen isnt bigot.

ask Obama when he banned Iraqs to come over here.

Although the Obama administration currently refuses to temporarily pause its Syrian refugee resettlement program in the United States, the State Department in 2011 stopped processing Iraq refugee requests for six months after the Federal Bureau of Investigation uncovered evidence that several dozen terrorists from Iraq had infiltrated the United States via the refugee program.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/18...g-iraq-refugee-requests-for-6-months-in-2011/

then you can really ask him if we think da American public is naive with his islamic radicalism PC kid gloves treatment...

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[Master Zik]

They aren't asking. They are taking advantage of the medias non stop discussion about banning rifles and the publics fear driven renouncing of their rights.

Media makes the issue an assault rifle issue, people adopt their views and in turn they beg for them to take the guns away. Then biden congratulates the people for making it happen lol

How ironic to have a weapons ban legislation titled We The People. Free thinking is absent in america.

Perhaps those ppl just don't agree with your point of view?

Theres roughly 30 million americans who own rifles. 5-10 million of them own AR-15's.

If it's a rifle issue and these many people own them, where's all the dead bodies at? Where's all these massacres?

More people are murdered by hammers than rifles. Should we ban hammers? 1 in every 3 people die of heart disease, lets ban cheeseburgers too.

This country has a mental health problem disguised as a gun problem.

Some ppl are on that wave, word to Bloomberg.

Some state just passed a sugar tax on drinks this past week.

 

[rico x hood]

List of the things the media has tricked me into believing:

1. White Supremacy/Systemic Racism is a thing

2. That America has a gun problem.

If gun owners want to scream about mental health so much, then they should be down for paying a VAT on guns, ammo, and accessories to fund a national mental health system.

Jesus can just move to Denmark and just be done with it. I hope you don't celebrate the 4th or recite the National Anthem because you obviously hate America and are hell bent on destroying it with your propaganda, race baiting, and socialist agenda.

 

[ben roethlisberger]

Perhaps those ppl just don't agree with your point of view?
Some ppl are on that wave, word to Bloomberg.

Some state just passed a sugar tax on drinks this past week.

What good is an opinion if is based on lies?

I've read too much Edward Bernays and Sigmund Freud to chalk it up as people having different opinions. Peoples opinions are manufactured for them.

 

[RustyShackleford]

news flash, good intentions of protecting american citizen isnt bigot.

ask Obama when he banned Iraqs to come over here.

Although the Obama administration currently refuses to temporarily pause its Syrian refugee resettlement program in the United States, the State Department in 2011 stopped processing Iraq refugee requests for six months after the Federal Bureau of Investigation uncovered evidence that several dozen terrorists from Iraq had infiltrated the United States via the refugee program.

http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/18...g-iraq-refugee-requests-for-6-months-in-2011/

then you can really ask him if we think da American public is naive with his islamic radicalism PC kid gloves treatment...

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Trump openly suggesting banning Muslims from entering the country, and suggested we monitor their neighborhoods.

And Obama suspended the program because it clearly failed, I don't know how Trump's plan stops the Orlando shooter, which was born in America.

And you really put a lot of faith in Trump's debating skills. He never performed great in any of the GOP debates, he was landing shots in his speeches. Not only that, he struggles in interviews when he gets pressed in interviews and as a results says some of the most nonsensical things. And you really think a man like that will wash Hillary Clinton, who has debated the likes of Biden, Edwards, Obama, and had Bernie yelling at her for half a year, over a the span of 90 mins.

Famb, you're setting your self up for disappointment.

 

[Master Zik]

Patriot Act don't exist anymore?

Technically , I guess they aren't asking given they already took it but hey when they start making more lists, banning immigration well ignore w/e rights are being infringed upon then too.

True. Obama renewed it. In edition to enacting NDAA. Liberals just trampling on our rights left and right.


How to cook a frog indeed.

A mind once expanded can't regain its original dimensions.

You can't put the rabbit back in the hat after Bush yanked it out and carpet bombed it.

You're living in some fantasy world if you think the best course of action is to full stop on everything a previous adminstration has done and led us in to before course correcting and trying to get on track to fix things properly.

 

[RustyShackleford]

List of the things the media has tricked me into believing:

1. White Supremacy/Systemic Racism is a thing

2. That America has a gun problem.

If gun owners want to scream about mental health so much, then they should be down for paying a VAT on guns, ammo, and accessories to fund a national mental health system.

Jesus can just move to Denmark and just be done with it. I hope you don't celebrate the 4th or recite the National Anthem because you obviously hate America and are hell bent on destroying it with your propaganda, race baiting, and socialist agenda.

I'm actually a naturalized citizen, I can go back to my birth country whenever I please. Hell I could get a job in Canada or Australia through contacts too.

But I won't, America is my country, as much as it is anyone else's.

If you want small government, low taxes and no liberals, then move to a libertarian country. I hear Somalia is nice this time of year

-I'm like the supportive boyfriend that wants America to work out, go to a therapist, and better herself.

Your like the simp broke boy boyfriend that kisses her *** because you want her to pay for dinner and buy to you Xbox games.

Don't be mad because I practice a healthier form of love with my country.

 

[rico x hood]

Ha that's where you're wrong Spinning Rusty. Ive never been tge type to live off anyone's teat. That's for you and your ilk, demanding handouts because you can't stand on your own two feet.

 

[ben roethlisberger]

More taxes ain't the answer. We already get OVERLY taxed for meat subsidiaries and endless wars. Take the tax cut from there. Another reason why we should be able to choose where our taxes go to if we so voluntarily choose to pay taxes.

Not only that, but why isn't anyone bringing up the fact that America's "culture" (if you wan't to call it that) glorifies and celebrates violence every day? Does that not play a part in influencing people to do ****** up ****? YES. People are dumb enough and mentally ill enough to let entertainment influence them heavily.

 

[rico x hood]

A mind once expanded can't regain its original dimensions.

You can't put the rabbit back in the hat after Bush yanked it out and carpet bombed it.

You're living in some fantasy world if you think the best course of action is to full stop on everything a previous adminstration has done and led us in to before course correcting and trying to get on track to fix things properly.

You do not fix things by revoking the rights of your people. He ran against Bush yet kept some his worst "reforms". Political hypocrisy at its finest. But sings Amazing Grace and listens to Jay Z so he gets a pass.

 

[Master Zik]

Always love when they try to frame it like you hate America and what it stands for and tell you to move to a different country.

 

[Master Zik]

A mind once expanded can't regain its original dimensions.

You can't put the rabbit back in the hat after Bush yanked it out and carpet bombed it.

You're living in some fantasy world if you think the best course of action is to full stop on everything a previous adminstration has done and led us in to before course correcting and trying to get on track to fix things properly.

You do not fix things by revoking the rights of your people.

I didn't say that you do.

But again you're stuck on one thing living in a fantasy world where these other problems don't matter.